Really? Montreal has so many (I once counted eight on a ten minute walk) that some do suck but Montreal is the source of the majority of Ontario's strippers ever since we lost the ability to import ex-soviet and Romanian girls under the emergency worker program. A lot of the best girls don't work in MTL and prefer to travel to Ontario because the money is better but the city has way too many strip clubs.

If you mean they were not full brothels you just needed to go to the right ones. At any time there are a handful of clubs offering that service. The two that I would have recommended have both shut down and I don't know who has filled the role since then.

That is very expensive for rub and tug. I used to know some owners and the rate was $60 with some of the Asian places $30-40 -- now even with inflation that doesn't get to $155. I just checked some rates on the Ottawa/Montreal adult review site and for $200 you could have gotten http://www.merc.ca/vbulletin/showthr...o-be-in-heaven and I see a bunch of girls advertising $80-100 for 30 minutes and that is sex. No way a rub and tug should have been that much. Before it shut down blow jobs at the strip club were $30-50.

Buenanote is a little out of the main area but if you were in the main area girls from the various agencies would have come up to you. I used to stay at the W and go to Wonderbar a lot and every time I'd see them there. They come in look for guys who look like they have money and are out to have fun chat a little then give you their business card. One girl in particular I'd see a lot as she'd do every bar early in the night before the calls start coming in. The agencies number spelled out LOVE with the last for digits.

Buenanote is one of my old hangouts. Across the street is Globe which is also really good. Last time I was at Globe it looked like they had some sort of eugenics program for waitresses -- they were all tall, blonde, and while not identical were very similar looking. It was actually a little weird and disturbing. I've normally had a good time there but that time they nearly killed me with food poisoning.

re: strip clubs: there were definitely lots of them, but the three we went to (which came recommended) were kind of blah. girls were mediocre and there weren't even that many strippers at one of them.

i should clarify that the rub n tug girls were mostly gross. the citizens of montreal were hot.

fryke, custer, nice tr. custer i'm curious why you didn't just give it to her straight that evening. something like "okay, look i understand you feel a bit uncomfortable going home with someone you just met in a foreign country, but i think our friends are trying to have a little privacy for a bit. you want to just go have a drink and text them after to see where they're at?" just to buy fryke some time. or maybe you did say something like that and i just missed it.

i've run into a bit of an odd situation. yesterday i was with a friend just hanging out at the park where nightlife promoters sometimes come through. so this girl comes up to us trying to sell tickets for a club but i'm not interested because it's for a place i've never heard of. but the girl is sort of playful and smiling, didn't just move on to the next group, so i flirt with her a bit, and it turns out she is only here for another two weeks. i thought she was really cute and to me gave off a vibe like she was up for anything in bed, she seemed quite confident but not arrogant. i thought she was very pretty but she is probably around 30 and my friend did not think she was anything special.

i figure she is a promoter and probably gets hit on by a lot of guys but i thought the vibe felt okay so why not go for it? ask her if she wants to get together this week, and she's like, "oh for a date?" and i figured then she would act flattered but decline, but she said okay and wrote her number down. we exchanged names. then she again asked if i wanted to buy a ticket to her club, which i found pretty strange because i thought it was sort of pathetic. but i just smiled and declined and she said text her and we'll get together this week in a way that seemed quite genuine. my friend said she seemed quite flattered by my asking her on a date so despite the weird ticket thing i felt okay about it.

texted her later that evening and she replied instantly, asked her what night she is free this week and she says "tomorrow." so we were set to meet and go for drinks tonight at 9, but then she just texted me saying she can't go. i said that's too bad but perhaps another night, and she just replied with "ok."

poker reference, any thoughts on what is going on here?

No interest on her part, move on.
The ticket thing after the number exchange was the first sign of it being nice to get you to buy a ticket (which she probably gets paid for additionally) and the second sign was pretty straightforward.

So, I just started Law School.
In the second week or so I started talking to this pretty attractive girl in class and all of a sudden we started sitting close every day. It's important to mention that I'm currently dating and I have no intention on cheating on my gf. Also, in the first day of class the teacher asked us to write some letters talking about ourselves and in the end he asked us to read the letters out loud. In my letter I mentioned my gf, so everyone in the class knows i'm commited.
So anyways, we talked a bit on the weekend on whatsapp about random stuff and I told her i was home alone for two weeks, since my parents are out on a trip. So I'm cooking my lunch and all, but I'm not very good at it, so I was asking her for some tips. On monday, as soon as the class started, she sat in front of my seat and asked right away "so, how did the cooking go?" I responded "not very well, I screwd up here and there" and she says "oh,that's terrible! how you and I will get married now?" and I responded "well, I did cook some decent [insert local food here]." and she replies "ah, now we can think about it." I didn't really say anything else at the time. Like 1 hour later she looks back and asks "can I abuse you for a bit? I really need a massage." I didn't know what to say, but I thought for a bit and said "sorry, i'm probably not the best person to do that".
Fun fact: I was rewatching Pulp Fiction last sunday night with my GF and we discussed the sexuality behind a massage.

So, another hour later a girl sitting next to us looks at her and asks what does the "N" tattooed in her arm mean. She says it's the first letter of her fiancees name. what the hell.
I thought "well, they are probably in an open relationship and he doesn't mind her doing these kind of things. but today, in a conversation with a girl sitting next to us, she asked this girl if she knew this guy, X, because she had seen him the day before and he didn't recognize her, he was fixing something in her house (he's a plumber or W/E) and when her fiancee called him, he told him to not look at his girl when he's there. And the guy was so scared to look that he didn't even recognize her.

At first I thought she was hitting on me, but then I noticed she treats another guys in class the same way. She doesn't ask for massage, but just the way she acts makes me think it's just how she is. I'm not thinking on it or anything, I'm just confused by it all and wanted to know what you guys think. Does it look like she's into me? Is that just how she is? Maybe both?

cant believe i read all of that just to get to the part where you clearly answered your own question already

Who really cares if shes into you if you are in a committed relationship and have no desire to change that

last two posts nailed it, the **** is this ****

Yeah, I don't have a desire to change that at the moment, but everything can change. I'm going to spend 5 years with this girl afterall.

Also, I'm not sure about her intentions, that's why I wanted to read you guys opinions. Like I said, she does treat two or three guys like she's known them forever, but asking me for a massage was weird. a really good female friend of mine told me she's definitely hitting on me and that I should've said something to the girl to remind her i'm commited, so I don't know.

Sounds like you do want to cheat on your girlfriend.

nope, no way that happens. I actually already told her about this girl. Since we watched Pulp Fiction, it was funny to bring it up.
Still don't know about her intentions though.

Maybe you're oblivious to this or something but making posts like

is kind of at odds with the whole being-happy-with-your-girlfriend thing since if that was the case this would just be kinda a funny story you laugh to yourself about and not something causing you to make a bunch of posts on the internet hoping a forum full of dudes can unlock the secret to her intentions cause you're really curious

I was really ****ed after my last relationship, mostly because I didn't look at was around me and thought she was the love of my life. i'm not doing the same again. Yeah, I'm happy atm, but I'd like to know that I have options and that if everything goes to **** in the next few years I'm not completely ruined again.

Constantly looking around for the next piece of ass you're going to bang when your current relationship ends might be overcompensating a little.

In other news, my hostel in NO appears to be bang smack in the middle of the ghetto. So far it looks like it could be slim pickings here in terms of both girls to Mack on and wingmen, but will see. Hopefully have at least one more TR from the trip, down to the last two nights. Here's just hoping its written here and not in the "AMA about being mugged in the ghetto" thread.

Also with Kansas dude, I feel like he is being treated too harshly. Just because he has a GF doesn't mean he can't want to improve at being able to decipher girls. We are rational people here, if you are less than <25 and you have been dating for less than 2 years the chances you marry this girl are pretty small (based on nothing but my own made up numbers).

Realizing that, I feel as long as he remains faithful there is no harm done in getting some advice. Plus realistically I feel like you should always be on the lookout for someone better (long term tho, not short term) pre marriage. Not actively, but closing your mins to the idea is throwing away a positive free roll.

In this instance I don't think she really has feelings for you, but I feel it is a positive sign.

When a girl feels comfortable enough to make those jokes it shows you at least have some value and aren't a creep. Ie at the hostel the other day me and a girl drove to get beers and tool ages because of traffic, and people asked what took so long, and she answered because we were banging. Not saying this is a sign that she definitely wants to bang, but I think it's definitely a IOI (PUA wuddup)

Yeah it is my ex of ~2.5 years. We broke up about 2 months ago. The most contact we've had since then is a few texting convos.

I asked one of my close female friends about what she thought the deal was. She said she may be trying to get back with me because she misses me/is feeling lonely. For some reason I didn't think of this and just assumed it was friendly catchup.

I would defs want to bang again but she is just going to have to fit in with the other girls I have atm. No relationships. She isn't the hottest of them but she has an awesome ass with a tiny waist.

We are going for lunch in about 2.5 hours. I'll provide a TR when I get back.

My last post only semi posted and can't be bothered re posting but cliffs:

Looking to improve skills with girls is fine even in relationship, looking to upgrade pre marriage is fine as long as you are smart enough to take into account long term compatibility and personality, and in this specific case she probably isn't trying to bang you but the flirtation is a slight IOI (PUA wuddup)

This did happen. I thought I made it pretty clear a couple more things though. We did plan things out, pretty straight forwardly, and my girl seemed 100% down with the plan up until literally fryke and his girl closed the door at their motel. In theory I could make the arguement that things would have worked out inf better if we went to my place first and dropped she and I were dropped off first. the 3 places(bar we were at, their place, and my place) were pretty close to a equilateral triangle(I didnt know this about their place as they didnt even know where they were staying we had to google on frykes phone to tell the cabby). with this plan she would have felt 100% more comfortable i imagine. In hindsight another thing that would have worked better is if fryke talked me up more(in terms of being a good guy), in the morning they asked us if we were friends, so maybe it wasnt that obvious that we were friends, so maybe she would felt more comfortable.

But then again there is no real reason for him to do this as my girl seemed to be more into me than frykes girl was into him(although his girl i think was slightly less drunk and more aware, more forward and more communicative in terms of working out the logistics. If you told me my girl would feel the way she was about to feel I would have laughed my ass of. if you told me I wouldnt bang her I also would have found that funny. Just the way the cookie crumbles.

But outside the bar things were VERY forward, and I dont know how drunk fryke was but I am pretty sure he would confirm this. Multiple times it was said that my girl+me are going back to my place and his girl and him get the motel. My girl seemed perfectly fine with this(again up until the moment the cab starting leaving her motel). I guess it should have been a sign that my girl wasnt playing an active roll in the logistics and frykes girl was(I knew it was a good sign for him), but I just chalked it up to the fact that some girls are passive about that stuff.

I even remember telling my girl that I had zero furniture in my place as I just moved down, so all I have is a bed, and she said something along the lines of "That sounds good/Thats fine".

The cab ride was also split up with me and my girl in back and fryke and his girl split up and girl was all over me in cab too.



Now in regards to your other point about getting drinks or whatever to give them time, I said before but I def actively worked on giving them time once my girl decided to come back and after she came out of her guy's friends rooms. We were way off from any bar/downtown austin(by way I mean like 15-20 min walk prob, but that wouldnt matter anyway since it was past closing time.

Maybe I could have gotten some vodka or something from their room (iirc they had something like that in there), but we would still be drinking outside as none of the guys that had rooms were too keen on me coming back. In fact one of the guys was creeping my girl out and she told me to protect her from him as he was creepy and hitting on her all night.

It was a lot of bad luck for me, which snowballed into obviously bad luck for fryke too. In hindsight assuming I knew what I knew now about the location of their place, the play would have been drop me off first, but I am not sure that would alleviate problem, and if anything could result in me just going home alone, which is obviously a step down for me and not any different of a situation for fryke, unless my girl slept in some other bed.

Also worth noting is that their phones were not activated/unlocked for america so they couldnt text/call each other, so separation was slightly a bigger deal. I am 90% sure they only communicate through snap chat as they both asked me and fryke on separate occasions if we use snap chat.

I highly doubt she is a promoter as they don't tend to do this. What they do is get broke people to do this in exchange for free passes and some drinks. It is insane how much free labour promoters get.

Based on that my read would be she agreed because you seemed ok and it was a night out. Then she changed her mind likely because something came up which she saw as a better offer.

I'm tempted to message those girls tomorrow as they arrive in NO and try to bang other girls from the group (25 girls, 8 guys on the tour)/gun for a threesome asuming similar accommodation situation, but highly risky as once I get drunk I lose the inability to not have sex with mediocre looking girls so would not have the wherewithal to go for options a/b and still bail before hooking up with the meh looking one again.

I also suspect your girl will cockblock you with other girls in the group a decent % of the time.

Hi all, looking for some advice on a weird situation.

I was seeing an intern from work (not creepy I promise...she's 23, I'm 24) for about 4 months. We never officially had the relationship/boyfriend/girlfriend talk, but things were definitely heading that way until the 4th month (this past June) when things turned pretty sour pretty fast. We were fighting a lot about stupid stuff, broke up, made amends and then (sort of) broke up again..

The last time we actually spoke together as 'a couple' was on July 4th. We had made plans to watch the fireworks together but she cancelled at the last minute saying she had been hanging out with a mutual female friend of ours and was "too drunk". This was at 6:00 PM. I texted her back expressing my displeasure. A few hours later she left me a drunk voice mail and a few texts saying she wanted to come over and have sex. I told her to come over but she never did, which just made me even more pissed off obviously.

After that, I pretty much decided I was not going to do anything to initiate contact with her. Evidently she decided to do the same, as we went almost a full month without so much as a word spoken to one another. We ended up breaking the silence after we both attended an after work happy hour and left at the same time. We both live on the same subway line, so we ended up walking and talking for about 10 minutes.

It was a completely standard, platonic co-worker conversation. ("How are things?", "Good, and you?" "Been busy working on XYZ project.." etc.) Neither of us seemed willing to acknowledge the elephant in the room..

Fast forward to last week. My company throws a big open bar party for all the junior analysts twice a year. The one in February was actually the first time me and her hooked up. This time, I ended up going home with an attractive friend of hers who doesn't know about our history (is that unethical?). I wasn't sure how she was going to react to this, but we got stuck in the elevator together as we were leaving the office this evening and she was noticeably pissed off, going so far as to make up an excuse for not needing to take the subway as to avoid having to continue talking with me.

I would very much like to have sex with her again. Her internship is coming to an end at the end of next week, at which point she will be moving overseas to finish school, so my time here is limited.

Given the elevator situation, I'm considering sending her a message tonight. Maybe something along the lines of "hey, I understand we aren't seeing each other anymore like we used to, but I don't see any reason why we can't talk to each other on occasion." Any thoughts?

Why do you want to have sex with her again so bad?. If you really don't have any other options then i would just send her a text to come over and go from there.

custer, you're cleared. i was thinking there was a hotel bar or something like that, but given your post, it soudss like you covered all bases and tried your best and just had **** luck.

i didn't know that was a thing but knowing that now it seems very likely, as she seemed rather inexperienced at the job. i find that sort of pathetic that she would be working like that for such low compensation, but it doesn't change the fact that i was attracted to her physically and she seemed like she'd be fun in bed. going forward i will change my tone a bit in text to make it very clear i am only interested in sleeping with her. i highly doubt we will meet up but at least if we do, we both know what the deal is.