Are you CRAZY?!?!?!? This is like discovering PLUTONIUM by ACCIDENT!

<3 seinfeld.


also karak why not let a man enjoy two women making out...

lol @ grunching without knowing context

Did you miss the part where the people running the party were complaining about outsiders coming in? And it was clear who the outsiders were because everyone at the party was wearing a white t-shirt, thus judging them off their dress. I don't think my story could have possibly made this ****ing clearer.

Have you ever hosted a large (150+ people) party before? Do you have any idea how many problems outside groups coming in cause? Plus we have a lot of gang activity in the area, and outsiders coming in are often parts of gangs and cause unreal amounts of problems.

Oh wait, I have an example from this weekend: a group similar to the one I warded off came in. Very similarly dressed with similar attitudes. They actually managed to get into the party. When my friends asked them to leave, they told my friends tehy weren't going anywhere and to call the cops if they wanted. OBviously my friends, by calling the cops, are shutting down their own party. They can't physically remove them, as they appear to be gang members and a fight would go down. They just let them be, and they manage to not cause any problems by the end of the night outside of verbally harassing multiple people at the party. Ex: one of them came up to me as I am triyng to talk to a friend and goes, "Yo??! YOU FROM THE HOOD DAWG? Cause I'm from the ****ING HOOD. You got me? THE ****ING... HOOD." Any attempts I made to ignore him or pass him off were in vain. I just had to walk away. This happened to a couple of my friends to... you know, the guys who lived there and were hosting the ****ing party.

At the end of the night when everyone else left, these guys refused to leave and insisted they be allowed to stay at the house after everyone who lives there goes to sleep. At this point my friends got more aggressive, and these guys made it clear they were there to fight. One of them pulled a tazer on one of the guy that lives at the house and started threatening them. At this point they called the cops and these guys took off.

This is exactly the problems letting outsiders in at our parties cause, and it's a huge issue. But feel free to continue taking pot shots from the sidelines. I'm sorry my friends don't want outsiders at their parties, but any attempts to physically remove people like this ends in a fight. I can't tell you how many problems we've had over the years with outsiders coming into our parties and causing problems. They pick fights, try to sell drugs (the coke dealer was a fun one to deal with) and, worst of all, harass and make the girls attending our parties feel uncomfortable.

And the make out story is going to become a lot clearer once you have all the details. I have no idea why you guys can't understand I'm going to make it clear what an enormous douchebag this guy was.

Instead of replying "Oh, sorry guys, but it's a closed party" or something with an ounce of courtesy

I didn't do this? I felt like this was fairly clear in my story as well. But you need to know these type of people, and they don't take no as an answer, as you can see from above. And if ****ing with random clearly undesirable (ie townies/gang members/way-too-old) people trying to crash a party is above your morals then you are a much bigger man than I am, and I defer to your graciousness. I could ask them to leave repeatedly and then threaten to call the cops, or I could have some fun. I'm gunna go for fun. I really do not care at all about showing politeness to a group of random people trying to take advantage of my friends, especially considering the situation my friends were dealing with with the other group at the very same time.

see below \ /

I hereby out-and-out beg everyone not to plead with Karak in this thread for the rest of his story.

If he's instituting a policy that everyone either react to him like this...

<<One of my friends that lived there instantly recognized me and screams "HOLY ****ING ****. IT'S [KARAK]!!!!!!!" and the whole place erupted and was cheering and it was awesome. I felt like a rockstar. My already super inflated ego got inflated even more.>>

...or he's going to take his ball and go home, then respond accordingly.

I've decided to finish out my story, but I'm gunna leave out some of the side stuff. I don't feel like defending it.

lol you're right and make a good point LKJ, and I was hoping I could edit it and no one would see it and we wouldn't have to argue it, but I can see your edit reported what I did

i just find myself spending way too much time rage-typing and not enough time rage-studying, and it annoys me. we all know how i am at this point.

TR#4 and by far the most volatile one yet in the works

Haha, I'd love to know how well rage-studying works. If it will help me understand easements, covenants, fee simples, etc., I'm in.

I tend to tilt on anything that has to deal with computers (poker, forums, studying, outlining) really easily. Although I've been controlling my poker tilt really well recently, which probably is why I'm having one of my better years yet so far considering the amount of time I've played.

It just doesn't make sense because it takes so much to tilt me in an IRL situation. But oh well. It's how I am, and at least most here understand that by now.

If I was trying to get two girls to makeout and some geek that was eavesdropping actually tried to bust it up the amount of homophobic slurs that stream out of my mouth would be relentless.

Incidentally, weren't you still pretending to not be interested in her?

Or is it in the state of "I know this is a horrible idea, but I'm interested anyway"?

You do juggle enough girls ITT to confuse me.

im gunna clarify a lot by time im done with my TRs... i want some feedback (i have a few questions) after the 4th one though

I'm prolly gonna have to clarify a little bit after my weekend TR's as well, don't worry.

I should also maybe see a doctor...

lol karak

lol BG

lol this weekend.


as i said it was springfest. the block party this year was out of control, over 8k people were there. eventually after 40s, bottles, chairs, etc were being thrown and dumpsters/cars were being set on fire ****ing SWAT showed up and gassed the place. pretty insane.

i didnt go, but it was ******ed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wexfpL9yuII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5NdUJ-Cd1U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFPl0...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E37vS...eature=related



edit: also tiger nike commercial parody
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig4Bz...eature=related

TR #4 (unrelated to the side TRs which I'll extrapolate later):

So I get to the party and do my usual mingling, talking to people I haven't seen in a few months and catching up. I'm having a lot of fun. I'm not necessarily paying BG a ton of attention, but she's socially smart so she knows what I'm doing and that I'm not blowing her off.

Eventually she and I start hanging, playing pong together, etc. and this dude keeps coming up to her and trying to grind on her and talk to her. He is wearing 3D glasses from when he saw Avatar or something and thinks he's cool as ****. He keeps trying to get BG to go dance with him and she's politely refusing and turning him down, but he just won't give in. I've been pretty much ignoring him and concentrating on the pong game (side beat: we lost with 2 cups left... BG made every single cup, and I missed every single one. Pretty embarrassing, but I haven't played pong since like October of last year), but he was getting really annoying. It got to the point of where he'd ask her to dance and her reaction was to roll up on me and start dancing and he'd just sit there staring. Then he showed us his abs and how ripped his stomach was (and I think this was framed as a shot at me since I'm like 5 ' 8 " 180 lbs... I'm not fat but I obv don't have washboard BROSKI abs). On top of that BG informed me he was a drummer (if you don't know the lol backstory on me and drummers, just ignore this fact) and I couldn't stop loling. Eventually he faded away, but he reappears later on. She told me he's been trying to hook up with her for like 3 months now and won't stop trying no matter how many times she turns him down. Beta behavior ftw.

Also this one girl I know (who was all over me last time I was in town) just comes up out of no where, slams me into the corner and starts grinding all over me. I'm like lolol wtf is this and BG is losing it (in laughter). The girl then starts to go away, then I see BG whisper in her ear and she comes back and pins me in the corner again and BG is laughing hysterically. After she goes away BG tells me she whispered to the girl, "You should go grind on [Karak] some more. I think he wants it." because she knew it would create an awkward situation and amuse her. She was trolling me. I was impressed.

The flirtatiousness/friendliness/physicalness of BG and me was escalating fairly rapidly at this point, and BG then starts telling me she wants us to head back to her place together and reiterates that she wants me to spend the night there. At this point I need to step back in time and explain the back story of me coming: BG was pestering me to come into town for the party and she finally convinced me. She then asked where I would stay since I was gunna make it a surprise, and I said I'm sure I'll find something. She immediately offered that I can stay in her room with her, and I conditionally accepted. I didn't want to snap accept, but I framed it as like "80 % certain" I'd stay in her place. I wanted to keep some sort of mystery/ambiguity. Probably unnecessary, but I also wanted an out should I decide to abort and not stay with her. I never want to lock myself into an absolute like that.

Back to the present (well, in the frame of the story): She said she'd like to go as soon as I'm ready to go home with her, and I told her sure we'll figure out a way to get there and will leave in 30 mins or so. At that point one of the guys who is hosting the party asked me to come back out on the deck and help him out as he was having trouble repelling the undesirable crowd that was trying to come in and they wouldn't leave. More or less he wanted some backup. That's where the story from up above came from... I was trying to run interference to keep people off the porch, especially people we didn't want to come in, while he and another guy that lived there tried to deal with the problem trio upstairs. I think what I did looks better in context there. These guys wouldn't take no for an answer to leave, so I was doing what I could to at least stall them and maybe get them to leave.

After helping my friends out with the guys outside, I turn back into the house to grab BG and start making plans to head back. As I walk in the door I see a couple making out surrounded by a group of people and think to myself, "why do people do that? Too much PDA. And they have a crowd too! Gross."

Then I realize the girl that guy is making out with is BG.

She sees me, freezes up, stops and comes over and I said, "having fun?"
She said, "Wait I can explain."
I said, "I need to piss. I'll be back in a few." and take off upstairs to the bathroom (and I really did have to pee).

As I get in the bathroom I get a text from her saying, "Are you mad at me?"

I sat there for a minute, collected myself and tried to analyze what the **** was going on and what was going to happen next. Rage tilt was simmering right under the surface and despite my drunken state (and I was really drunk), I managed to calm myself down. I resolved that I would need to find another place to stay and would just blow her off for the rest of the night. I wasn't going to get played and strung along like this. I text her back, "Nah. I'm fine. None of that was really unexpected."

I then open the bathroom door with the intent of heading downstairs to hang out with my friends for the rest of the night, and BG is standing outside of it waiting for me and looks like she is about to cry. She says, "What does that mean?"

At this point I will end the TR for now.

Before I move on, I ask the following questions:

-What would you do in my position?
-How would you have reacted? Consider that she and I had been talking together all night, she arranged for me to stay at her place and all the flirting and physicalness that led into her telling me we should head back to her place soon carried a heavy and obvious implication with it.

Then ask:

-Is there any explanation she could possibly give you that would make you feel ok with what she did and brush it off as something minor? Is there anything you can think of at all?

I'll say this: "he forced himself on me" is not an option because it was clearly voluntary, and it is not a factor at all. So stay away from that red herring.

Thoughts?

bitches..

My God, I hate this BG woman so ****ing much.

I mean, she's obviously gotta be really hot for you to even be asking questions at this point about what should have been done next.

For that matter, she has to be noticeably hotter than the original classics A and B, because they don't seem any worse than this one.

shes got my attention.


Interesting TR karak. I totally forget all of your past with BG. So many tr's and girls in this thread, I should make a notepad file for cliffs on everyones TR's.

I wouldve reacted pretty much the same. That is by not showing that I am mad or anything and just ignore her and not talk to her then. Then also leaving her with one last line to ponder about, which you did.

BG obviously knows your mad and feels bad about it. Id say the only thing to do is wait for her to talk to you and see what she says, and just go from there. If I were you, I'd try and show that I do care and it did matter, but that im not really mad/sad about it.

In these situations, dunno what to expect, and they usually play out themselves.

Yeota thinks I'm being unfair to you by leaving the cliffhanger like this, so I'll offer the following: there's a lot more to go in this TR involving BG. Things certainly do NOT end at the end of that last TR. That should be a hint as to the outcome of the situation. I'd type it up now, but I need to get to class.

LKJ: BG is hotter, at least IMO, than ACD for sure. B is a closer call, but I'd definitely give BG the edge. I could see how someone could go the other way.

wtf..i hate you.

u ****ed some other girl in front of BG didnt you

Meh I've got 10 mins. I'll type it up. I don't want to leave that last TR hanging for too long. Feel free to post reacting to that one first before you read this one.

BG: "What does that mean?"
"It doesn't mean anything. It doesn't matter. I need to go downstairs and see some people. I'll catch you later."
She grabs my arm, "[Karak] wait. He's gay. That guy is really, really gay."
"What?"
"My friend x is gay."
"Which one is x?" (at this point I'm trolling cause I'm still ticked)
"You know the one down there."
"Which one?"
"The one I was talking to."
"You were talking to a lot of people."
"Ugh [Karak] come on. He is really gay, and we have always had a running joke that he and I are dating. So we were making fun of it with all those people and he grabbed me and we kissed as a joke. He tasted gross if that makes you feel any better. It lasted like 2 seconds you came in just as it happened."
"Whatever it's not my problem." My brain is reacting kinda slow cause of the alcohol, so I haven't really processed everything she was saying.
"You like me. That's why it bothered you. I'm sorry. I like you too."
"Yeah, well, I just don't understand why you would do something like that considering the dynamic between us and what already happened last week. But you don't owe me anything, so it's fine. I just figured I got the message and was gunna let it go."
"No... don't. It was stupid. I'm sorry. That's not the message I wanted to send you. I want you to come back to my place with me tonight so we can hang out."
Me: "Fine."

I fact-checked her though. I asked someone downstairs who would know if that guy was gay. He responded vigorously in the affirmative, telling me he was "really, really gay. no doubt about it."

haha LKJ i read your deleted post

Haha, well let's be fair, you were totally trapping us by giving us that first part of this story without the "he's gay" detail that does significantly change everything.

My post said something like, "I'd really be disappointed if he did something with BG now, though I'd understand since she's hot and he was drunk."

I'm slightly more understanding of him calming down at this point, although obviously the red flags with this girl don't stop cropping up ever.

karak is in looooooooooooooveeeeeeeee