most girls dont. most guys dont have the nuts to ask though.

my first gf was more into me than me into her, so she kinda came after me. definitely gives you the upper hand.

btw, i always see this random hot girl on campus. like twice a month ill randomly see her. today she gave me the biggest eyefck of my life. it was awesome.

edit: hahaha im dying at this text exchange im having with that original girl that i stopped trying with. she texted me a question about class (about citing something in a paper). i answered the question kinda vaguely (cause i dont really know the answer). she texted back "wait, so should i or shouldnt i"? without thinking, i texted back "simba would".
so:
girl: should i?
me: simba would.
girl: simba?
me: mufasa's son...king of the jungle.
girl: right. i know who simba is i thought you were implying thats what you call your girlfriend.
editor's note: i start cracking up like wtfffffffffffffff
me: hahaha whattttttt. if i had a girlfriend, i wouldnt call her simba. probly wouldnt call her nala either. maybe rafiki.

lol stupidtextaments

talk her up

lol thats solid line, made me lol. u gonna say something to that random girl?

I've never tried this, but read about it somewhere. Walk by random girl, close enough that your elbow or arm or anything will just lightly brush her. As soon as she makes contact go "OWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW" really loud. Then TR here.

I've always wanted to try this, but try it for me please.

I don't vouch for any effectiveness of this technique.

seriously spent an hour or so texting this girl using disney metaphors. so epic. i figured she had a bf, and he became the monkey in junglebook. i became the prince in little mermaid.

i texted her:
me:so he is the reason you wont hang out?
her: hahaha yea
me: i dont blame u. most girls have a lot of trouble not cheating on their bfs when theyre around me.
her: hahaa what are you saying?
me: it seems like if we hung out, he might end up being a sad monkey.
her: thats true...and u never want to deal with a sad monkey
me: i dont care about sad monkeys. i think its obvious princes>monkeys
her: but i like monkeys
me: meh, ill text you when im over there later (editors note: meeting up with friends who live in her complex).

I've had exchanges with girls like this before, mainly just to entertain myself. It always makes me sad. Why can't women just break up with guys they don't like? I have so many friends in relationships they admit are garbage but they either "feel bad" dumping the guy or "don't feel like it" right now. It makes me so angry.

Real conversation I had a with a girl a couple nights ago:

So you don't love your boyfriend anymore?
-Right
And he bores and annoys you?
-Correct
And you see absolutely no future with him?
-Yes
But you won't dump him?
-Right. It's just comfortable right now, and I don't feel like going through the whole ordeal. He's really in love with me, and he would be a mess.
So you are faking the entire relationship? Do you find that hard?
-It's really not that hard. Just repeat back whatever he says. He hasn't picked up on it.

It really, honestly, made me angry. I have no interest in this girl, but if I did I would have lost it right there.

yea makes no sense.
seriously considering going the 3rd grade route with her in class (at the last class of the semester ldo)

do you like me:

[] yes
[] no
[] maybe

do that but cross out the no and maybe options as if you realized as an afterthought that she couldnt possibly pick them.

i like drawing a smiley face next to yes and a frowny face next to no

yes ive used this before and yes it worked

Update from me:

Bolded part of the above still summing it up. We were both out Monday night, we get a bit dancey and kissy etc. We leave, I ask her if she wants to come back to mine for a bit and she goes "well I would but you know what would happen, and that can't happen right now."
Then follows the incredibly standard conversation of the above bolded part. You don't like your boyfriend any more, you don't want to be with him, you'd like to be with me but not enough to dump him for me. Hmmmk. It's just "not the right time" apparently as he is having trouble at home and it would make it all so much worse. Bitch please.

So not sure where to go from here- do I forget about it and move on and reassess when she's finally dumping her effing boyfriend? Push for an ultimatum (don't like this option), or just keep it as it is, getting together a bit when drunk and then having the standard conversation? Also, she gets annoyed at the thought of me getting with someone else. I pretended to have kissed the girl that I danced with in a post a good few pages back, mainly for a laugh and to see her reaction, and she didn't like it.

Ideally want to just forget about it and move on but I know drunkenly I'll go right back to her.

Hey fellas sorry for being absent from the thread for a few, had some personal things come up.

As for your play, well seems standard. I have been in this situation with the exact same attitude and acting from the girl. Here is how it will usually go, you can keep the act up, don't offer a ultimatum just yet. Keep doing what you are doing. She will grow more and more fond of you. Which will either end in 2 ways. (1) She will dump her bf 20% chance (2) She will want to continue messing around and seeing you but not dumb her bf 80% chance. After its been a month or two of the same stuff and you two are growing a lot closer then you offer the ultimatum. I had offering the ultimatum, but you either offer it or just keep going along with situation number 2. When you offer the ultimatum it will either kill your relationship with her or she will take it and live happily ever after with you.

I've been in this situation before. I know what you are feeling. I also know it's hard to examine yourself from an outside perspective. I apologize in advance for being blunt.

Stop being such a bitch. This girl is ****ing around with her boyfriend and ****ing around with you at the same time. She keeps you around, dangling you and feeding you scraps from the table and you sit there and beg and beg and beg and wait for them. She won't give you anything substantive and she's just toying around and using you as some sort of ****ed up emotional crutch.

You have two choices:

a) Ultimatum. Basically a you either dump him for me or you and I are done. And actually follow through with it if you decide to go this route.

That's the worst option, but it's a lot better than what you are doing now.

b) Move on. Stop dealing with her **** and start looking for someone else. Make sure she finds out about it. If she really wants you, she'll dump her bf and get you before you start dating another girl. If not, who gives a ****. This girl is all ****ed up anyways.

Here's a quick snippet from my story:

Very similar situation with a girl. She was essentially emotionally cheating on her boyfriend with me.

I gave her an ultimatum, she dumped her boyfriend for me, then 12 hours later went back to him. The ultimatum thing was a real ****ty move and made me look stupid. IT'S HIM OR ME. It's just dumb.

A year passes, and **** starts to get heated again between her and me. This time instead of sitting around like a lap dog, I showed no overt interest in her. I didn't talk about her and me anymore. I would comment on how ****ty her relationship was from time to time, but always in context. Then I started asking out other girls. I made sure she knew about this.

She later confessed that she hit her breaking point and dumped her BF for me when she realized I was moving on to other girls and not just sitting around idling for her. Of course, like most girls who follow this course of action, the relationship eventually got ****ty and came to an end when *GASP SHOCK* she left me for someone else.

Seriously, if you really want this girl go for it, but she's probably not worth it. ONE girl is not worth going through all this ****, especially when the probability that she's insane is high. Stop being a lapdog and go out and find other women who don't have relationship issues and aren't willing to sit there and put you on a leash and drag you along.

Sorry if that was harsh, but it had to be said. You asked for the advice.

lots of tl; dr above.

wow was going to write the almost exact same thing as above poster..b) and it is not even close, and making sure she knows is the key here.

but be decently nice the times you somehow hook up with her, esp. in front of other girls. being seen with girls is good advertisement.

trying not to hijack: on my case,im meeting my project tomorrow for some school,shes been away on vacation some days and txted me immediately when she got back to hook up.think ill just tell her to come with me to my place so we can work in a silent place and make out,something along that line being my words of choice.sounds good no?figured its alpha time.

noted. ill be sure to reply to all of your posts with one line, content-less replies from now on that will be of no help to you.

Being seen with other girls is quite possibly the greatest tool you have, and I don't think many men understand this.

o relax.

Starting an advice thread and then tl; dring people when they give advice is kinda stupid. I was growing to like you too.Oh well. Shame.

Mmm I don't know the back story, so maybe I'm missing something here. I wouldn't state the make out thing. Maybe infer it. Just act like you assume it's going to happen, but you don't want to set her internal sloot alarm off either.

just relaxxxxx. it was a throwaway sarcastic comment. your post was fine and dandy and perfect length. ntl;riabt

backpedaling ITT

wow.

WOW CHILL DUDE I WAS JUST KIDDING AROUND JEEZ

backstory made short shes quite naggy (10 txts easiely a day), very physical and laughing alot when im with her. we made out 2 times quite heavily when we were out last week and she made up this story to take me to dinner and movies the day after.
were both on exch. and she leaves for good in 2 weeks

im not a native speaker so i dont wanna get uncomfortable trying to fancy stuff up, and by the ways we are getting along i think its gonna work out well.

meh whatever i think you'll be fine. she's clearly down with it.