Exactly. I am not afraid of confrontation when it will benefit me in the end. In this scenario, however, it will do nothing positive for me. My ego isn't harmed by this at all, so that wouldn't benefit either. Also, as Investment Banked pointed out, regardless of the Karants you see here, I usually am pretty calm and level-headed IRL. It takes a LOT to really cause me to lose it, and this guy hasn't even come close. However, when I do lose it (which is super rare and happens like twice a year)... oh it's bad.

I did end up going out tonight and got to see a bunch of old college friends. That was so much better than my night would have been had I gone out with B. A+ decision making for once.

Yeah, I feel like he's either completely socially ******ed or he is a complete *******. I'm not sure which one I'd prefer.

I've honestly table selected really, really bad in the last few months. Although some of the interpersonal decisions I've made I knew were bad and made them anyways because I was bored and didn't know what else to do. (See: A, B). And, honestly, I really didn't have much of a choice at some points.

They don't. After he made a series of insane comments I said, "well I wouldn't have thought you had a girlfriend the way you were talking and acting that night" (he had been talking about how he'd cheat on her in a heartbeat if the girl was attractive enough, but only if she was "hot"). I immediately felt bad, but then decided I shouldn't and let the comment hang. He went on some long speech about loving his girlfriend and being dedicated to only her and he'd never blah blah (it was all bull****). I said, "you're making my point, you know that, right?" He just kind of stared at me. It was a dumb waste of a conversation, but I had to get him to STFU about this issue and I knew the only way I'd do that is if I showed I was willing to pour it on thick.

nh

Yeah, I think this was it, except that my action clearly should not have embarrassed him in this situation. However, as you pointed out, it definitely did for some reason or he felt like he was getting outplayed. All the BS coming out of his mouth was typical male posturing garbage. I hate male posturing more than anything. I actually asked him at one point in the conversation to "cut the alpha male bravado ****. it doesn't work on me. it just annoys me." and he didn't even deny he was intentionally doing it.

lol

I think it's worth relating some of the content of his needling if we are going to talk about it. He kept bringing it up and calling me "brody" which was just lol-worthy. After I blew him off like 3-4 times he finally upped the ante a bit. He then started saying, "well if you pull that brody **** again I'll have to punch you in the face next time" with like a half-laugh, but it was pretty clear to me he wasn't joking. I also knew he's too much of a pussy to ever punch me in the face. Not that I could beat him up, probably not at all, but because it would just give me even more leverage over him in every situation. Every time he pulls an alpha male stunt and I either decline to react or react in a rational or whimsical fashion, it makes him look stupider.

But after he started making repeated comments like that (note this was in front of a female 3rd party who already knew the full situation from my standpoint), I couldn't let it go anymore. I don't want to say he got to me, but he made it clear I was going to need to deal with it if I wanted to resolve it. I was hoping I could just let it go and it would drift away. I guess he needed to feed some sort of inner need.

It seems like such a stupid thing to get in such a confrontation about, but I need to repeat he escalated it there by constantly bringing it up (and mis-construing it) in social situations around other people. I simply could not allow that to continue and to beat down his alpha male posturing I had to go all out. Obviously I much prefer (and always do) to pick my battles in the realm of reason rather than physical confrontation, which he seems to (immaturely) prefer.

The best was how he kept trying to get me to apologize. He'd give his half-assed hedge of an apology and then pause and look at me. After he did this like 3 times I said, "I'm not sorry." and had to struggle hard to not burst out laughing because the situation had become so insanely ridiculous at that point.

i just read everything drunk, and realized i can't respond in any coherent way. i was at a party with literally 60 asian girls/guys even ratio and i was lost. i flirted with some but nothing important/real happened. so i'm going to continue to drink and maybe i'll sober up in the morning and post something good. some 17yr old asked me to spend the night at her place but i decided not to cuz her grandma came home at like 2am randomly (i'm 19 so sucka sucka dick yall).

i hate to sound like i'm bragging but a couple girls are coming over now, i prob have a legitimate chance at 1-2 of them but doubt it's going to happenn unless i start to care

the edit was made by some girl on my comp so at least that's a legit brag

**** THE PPL ARE OUTSIDE IDK WHAT IM GUNNA DO GG STUDENT LIFE FORUM

Hahaha, GoodGame stepped it up in Karak's place since Karak (wisely) chose a tamer night out.

So is she just your friend? I dont get it? Why the **** do you even talk to this girl? Im so confused now.

TR from my night.

I had mentioned I would likely see C on Thursday night (by the way, my A is clearly dead now, so I pretty much just have a B and C at this point). Saw her, but there was nothing TR-worthy. I talked with her a few times, she was friendly but seemed a little lukewarm, so mostly I just stuck with talking to others. Didn't seem like a great vibe, but there was nothing that stuck out as bad, it was just whatever. There was still friendly rapport, she hugged me goodnight and all.

Last night I run into her again out at another bar, we just happened to be going in at the same time. Vibe was maybe a little friendlier at first this time, but I still wasn't feeling compelled to put a ton of energy into her and again spent a good bit of time talking with others instead. She finally sought me out when I had sat down at a table and struck up a conversation. I said, "I don't know, I can't seem to get much of a buzz going tonight. Think I might take off soon." She said, "Oh no you're not, I'm buying you a shot." We debated over what to shoot, tequila is always my shot of choice and I honestly don't like shooting much else, so I kind of forced her in that direction even though she was pushing for whiskey. I tested my leverage with, "Hey, you're the one who wants me to stick around and take shots with you." She said, "Okay, okay, but if we're doing tequila, I'm only doing one shot with you." Yeah, lies. We downed our second shot of tequila together within 15 minutes.

I saw her next drink go empty a little while later and offered to buy her another one. She said, "I don't know, <LKJ>. Do you really want to see sloppy <her first name>?" I said, "Not even gonna lie. I don't think I'd mind." She rolled her eyes and said, "Okay, fine." So, I got her that one. She went to the bathroom, I got back into a convo with someone else and forgot her in that convo for a while. Actually the night gets a little blurry in my memory at this point (I'm now realizing how much those shots and other drinks must have caught up with me), I know that a few friends who live in my apartment complex were heading home and wanted me to join them, so I agreed, I'd pretty much taken my eye off the ball at this point and didn't really attempt to hook up...but in any case, it was definitely a fun evening, one friend who didn't know of my interest in her commented on the way home about how much she was vibing me. I did make plans with her to teach her racquetball after class on Monday, so that much has been set up.

Nice! (referencing above), I like making her take your tequila shot.

Something I noticed though in reading a ton of posts is this hug goodbye. I hope no one is referencing like a full on stand up, "i havent seen you in 5 years" type of hug. I prefer the casual one arm squeeze or if we are sitting together, just a little leg squeeze is great. I feel as if doing nothing to make the situation in any way awkward, especially when out in a group (in front of her friends) is A+.

Meh it's not awkward, seems to be a pretty cultural norm among all of us in this class. If I was the only one doing it, I would probably stop for the above reasons you mention. And when it comes to this one, she caught me slightly off-guard when she greeted me with a hug a week after meeting her, so I wouldn't be putting her on the spot or anything specifically. And I'm pretty sure this was a one-arm-around-squeeze thing.

Basically the only reason I referenced it at all in the above post is to show that despite the fact that I wasn't getting a fantastic vibe, I obviously wasn't getting a total cold front either. Was just trying to give a feel for the situation as well as I could describe it.

i hope that when people say hug they mean like a 1 arm thing, a real "hug" is ****ing weird and i would never do that. the girl can use both arms but im not.

also i love telling a girl to give me a kiss on the cheek on the way out and then turning my head at the last minute, they fall for it every time haha

I'm pretty sure I stick to one arm but I don't even think about it, it's one of those things that begins and ends within 5 seconds.

lol in my experience girls have a 95% rate of being like "give me a REAL hug" whenever i do the 1-arm. freakin donks

If a girl full-on hugs me at the end of the night, I take that as a cue to linger and go in for the kiss.

LKJ - nice TR! Several legit brags throughout. Well done.

I never usually initiate a hug. If the girl starts one then I'll hug her back with the same thing she is doing - usually both arms, never had any complaints about it or thought about it before. Overthinking itt again?

Majorly, I can't believe we've had this many posts on the subject of the manner in which you hug someone

lawl waking up to posts you have no idea you made is cool

Alcohol is bad, mmmkay?

A fun youtube video which inexplicably reminded me of this thread:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWWKB...layer_embedded

LKJ i think thats a legit brag for sure that you had some good chemistry going with that chick but were aware enough to not get too into it


where the **** is karak?

1:30 mark:
sitting at home -> eating ice cream -> feel gross

beer -> confidence -> socially awkward moment

i bet a lot of 2p2'ers struggle with those two cycles

haha, so true - thats the one that pushed me to post it.

Thanks, I think it went well. Honestly, this thread has done a nice job of making me more aware about potentially falling into puppy dog behavior, and I obviously managed to stay away from it on this night...and I think it all went over pretty well.

Yeah, WTF thread. Did nobody go out last night? I didn't, I'd gone out on consecutive nights and felt fine about just staying low-key, but the lack of TRs after a Saturday night is unfortunate.

there's a girl in my room right now. line?

Grab the tag at the back of her shirt and say, "Just as I thought. Made in Heaven."