Start with how you have determined she is interested?

Oh no, not you Henry. Your blunt (and dare I say occasionally condescending) approach to things makes me cry with anxiety.

I would start by taking down her photo and then answering Henry's question.

o/u 400 hours that girl has spent in private webcam shows

Went on date with this girl last night, very cute and nice but no real spark. My gut is that she thought I was nice but also no real spark. She's hot though so obv ill ask her out again. For situations like this, what's the move? No "hows it going" text the next day, then ask her out in two days or so?

rofl well done

Ask her out for drinks this friday

Obv but WHEN do I ask?!

hmm, may need verification from the ballers itc. But I'd say either tonight or tmr

Ok thanks. I will wait for ballas to confirm. My sense is if she thinks I'm too nice asking her today will confirm that. BUT IF I WAIT shell be all hmm maybe he is a badass and out of my league and maybe I'm fat and ugly. THEN WHEN I ASK HER OUT she'll be like omg do me

Call her on Weds.

i called her to set up our first date and she texted me back so i assume she'd prefer texting?

Did she not answer? I would still opt to call, if she obviously avoided answering the phone to text, than you might want to look into dating people with social ability.

eh i know a decent number of girls my age (im 24) who hate talking on the phone, especially with guys they dont know that well

I call/leave a message because it's much harder to ignore a call and I don't question whether or not they're aware of my attempt to make contact but seriously, who the **** talks on the phone anymore?

Im talking about avoiding phone calls, not going out of your way to talk on the phone

why....this isn't bbv4l, no ones gonna trainwreck. SL posters are men of integrity, and are constructed of the highest moral fiber.

I have no opinion on the call vs text debate as that wasn't how I did things so really have no experience. One of the arguments for calling though is that it is a lot harder for the girl to say no / ignore the call. For the same reason a lot of PUAs say never leave a message. I find this line of thinking absurd. I have zero interest in going out with someone who needed that little extra pressure of a real time contact to agree to the date. There might be other reasons for call to be better than text but that it is slightly more pressure and thus increases your odds of an acceptance is not one.

I've just always felt like calling was more confident than texting but I do know that some girls from my generation are awkward as hell on the phone.

just get her drunk

I disagree Henry. On the ends of the spectrum of interest of course you're right, but I think that you're more likely (even slightly) to get a positive response from a call than a text for those with marginal interest. I know I ignore texts more than calls, or at least am more likely to forget about them, when girls I'm marginally interested in contact me.

And regardless of the exact breakdown of its superiority, it definitely seems to be a superior method.

Il Martiro returns! Still wifed up or what?

Call but don't leave a voicemail imo. If she doesn't answer, then text.

I can see that from the guy's perspective -- any time you put yourself in a position to get rejected that requires some degree of courage. The range for this is huge and very much guy dependent.

If a guy is the kind where asking a girl out is a big deal for him he goal is nevertheless to hide that fact from the girl. As such from the girl's perspective calling is no big deal.

In the past I would have said calling is the way to go but my thinking on this is changing to calling is showing too much interest. My actual position is to do neither but if someone wants to ask then maybe texting will be more aloof.

I agree and I said as much. My point is why would you want to waste your time with someone of marginal interest? So many of the issues guys have involve trying to go after girls that are just not that interested. Sometimes getting the date is not the positive outcome.

I never really understood the whole calling texting debate asking a girl to hang out.

Maybe I'm wrong here but I feel like if she wants to hang out with you it doesn't matter what you do as long as the content is basically the same. Calling her to pressure her as opposed to a text seems ******ed as why do you want to apply pressure in the first place.