I wouldn't call or txt her for a week and see what happens. I mean I wouldn't leave it at "NO CONTACT FOR ONE WEEK" like if you run into or something you can stop and have a casual conversation. Or if you are freinds with her on FB and her status is like "No class today Yay!!!!" (cause your class is cancelled) I'd maybe comment like "Yea this is so awesome"... friendly but not like overbearing. I wouldn't write something like "I know great, you are now free lets go get lunch" cause like honestly your friendship isn't at that level yet to be calling her to eat for every meal. And if she does txt or call u keep it casual. There is nothing wrong with a 4-5 txt convo. I txt and get txts from people all the time about dumb stuff, not them looking to like have a heart to heart through SMS.

If you are really hoping to get a relationship out of this then I think you need to give it time, let things develop. If you're looking to just smash then go with the other options of being real upfront and just askinng her on a date or being more forward.

-doubtful i see her randomly. big school, shes not in any of my other classes. seeing her twice that other day was a complete random fluke.
-not fb friends with her.
-shes live in the same building as 2 of my really good friends. they have a foosball table. if i was over there on say..wednesday. text her and be like come down to the 1st floor and play foosball. social situation, she can bring roomates, see how cool me and my friends are (and see that i dont drink 24/7).
edit: or is the no talking to her route the way to go. maybe ill just wait it out. meh. who knows.

The no talking route is the way to go. Like they said of course talk to her if you see her or whatever, but don't go out of your way to see/talk to her.

How are you not facebook friends with her? If you are actively pursuing a girl for something other than sex you should probably at least be facebook friends in an early stage. it makes the whole thing less awkward....

i generally dont facebook friend people.
and plus friending her now would just be creepy if in fact ive been too aggro.
its not like in class i asked for her last name, so adding a girl with such a generic name would be creepy imo.

Go ahead and freind her. Skip the fusbol idea, that's asking to hang out again. You want to get to know her better not try and spend every waking mintue with her yet.

this.

If for some insane reason, you want to do something, make this very low percentage and unrecommended play:
"I really like you, please go out with me."

This is the only possible line given the situation.

Else, if you do not see her in real life, do not talk to her.

So today i messaged the chick i talked about earlier in the thread. I started off with stuff about exams and asked her plans etc. Follow up message was to ask if she wanted to grab lunch some time this week.

I then get this message: "yeah lunch sounds good. I just hope it doesn't give you the wrong impression. Where and when?"

So what is my play here and what should my response be? I'll post what i did later.

hmm guess 'wrong impression' could mean a couple of things either that she jst wants to be friends or maybe she jst doesnt want u to think that ur gonna get sexual this early. considering ya only met once maybe jst wants to get to know ya first. i reckon should stick with plans to go to lunch and jst ask her wat impressions she talking bout.

hang in there buddy, there is still hope.

There is usually only 1 reason a girl would say this in this position, she just wants to be friends. Which is perfectly fine. One thing I would like to point out. Having a girl turn you down and become your friend could be the best thing to ever happen to you. I won't give away the reasons just yet. So back to the task at hand.

I would say you send something like this "Haha what do you mean by wrong impression? I thought we were just going to grab a bite lol?". You want to give her the idea at the moment that you are not interested in her. Since she is 99.9% saying this because she just wants to be friends. Let us know what her reply is or how lunch goes.

Omg don't do this please. This is blatently obvious that you realise you've been knocked back slightly and are trying to pass it off but failing epicly. Lets be honest, how often does a guy ask a girl that he doesn't know, to lunch, if he isn't interested in more. She knows you don't just mean you want to "grab a bite".

I understand everyone is entitles to their opinions, but this has worked in many occasions for me on many different women. Yes, I have been turned downed a few times by girls who had bfs or where not looking for anything. So this advice does work. Just follow it up when you go get lunch. Like poker if someone raises pre flop and then barrels all 3 streets you think they have a great hand. Same applies for women, just keep her thinking you are just out to have lunch and that is it.. There is nothing wrong with asking this question. She bluntly put it out there that she "hopes you don't get the wrong impression". So it is perfectly fair for you to put it bluntly to her.

Gonna get involved.
Backdrop - we're both freshers, met her on a night out with a load of randomers in freshers week. Got on really well from the start. I have an acquired sense of humour, very dry and sarcastic but she got it straight away and is very similar. Normally I have to break this in with girls but not her.
That night, everyone's splitting off to go home. I give it the "want some company on the walk back?" line, she's all like "yeah". Nothing happens other than chatting. meh.
Find out she has a boyfriend. fml.
Drunkenly tell her, as we walk to the club on a night a couple of weeks back, that I "shotgun" her for when she breaks up with her bf. She tells me they pretty much have broken up. Ship it. We have a bit of a kiss later in the club but pretty sure she also got with someone else, no big deal.
Another night out. I get home. I ring her (this is standard drunken 3am proceedure), we chat for a while, get on subject of how far it is from mine to hers in paces. I tell her "have a guess, put the kettle on, and I'll count" (smooth imo). She's like "yeah ok cool". I turn up, not really sure what happens but we chat and end up sleeping together (no sex, just literally sleeping same bed) but got a bit cuddly and stuff.
Now to the other night; I turn up at club, she is there a bit drunk, tells me that she thinks we should have another sleepover, at mine this time. ship it. Later, I make some sorta comment and she replies with "don't get cocky just cos you know you're gonna get it". Double ship it. End of the night, takes 45 minutes to pass her effing friends off so that we can go back to mine. Gets pretty intense and passionate but when I reach downstairs she moves my hand away. No biggie, I thought, try again next time. 15 minutes later, take 2, same result. f this.

Morning isnt awkward, and we've since chatted a lot, just general stuff.

My play from here? Not only is she smoking hot, but one of my better friends- don't really want to ruin the friendship with any play.

So nothing else happened, just an intense make out? Did she go down on you? My first guess, its her period.

Yep, just an intense make out. But it's not like it was just drunken, as in the morning there was plenty of cuddling, head on chest resting, etc. If she was on her period, why would tell me earlier in the night that I was going to "get it"?

Anywho, as I say, we've chatted since and I was winding her up a bit last night, playfully obv. She was all like "you're gonna have to do soemthing real good to make this up to me" so I said "how about I cook you dinner". She was pretty positive in response, but the conversation ended up changing. We got to vague days for it but never settled on one, and I didn't want to push it.

I'm thinking see what happens on a couple more mutual nights out. Then if nothing progresses, perhaps just openly asking her out on a date?

COMPLETELY FORGOT TO ADD: On the night I first got with her, I asked how her night was going. This was quite late on. She replied "about a 9/10 but there's one thing that could make it a 10". Obv I spent the next like hour trying to confirm that making it a 10 meant sex for me, but she wouldn't come out with it, and I eventually just asked her. It wasn't what she meant, lol nh. It was actually that she wanted a reply from her "best friend" who is a guy, from home, to a text. Hmm. Since this, she brings him up every now and again and a lot of times says things that hint that she's pretty crazy about him- example being the above point. She also moaned the other night about how long it was taking him to reply to a text, and how he only gave her one 'x' rather than the apparently usual 'xxx'. Ignore this fool and just carry on? Or does it affect things

yeah thats what i was gonna say lol.

as far as your play- idk what you are asking. seems like you are doin fine and she has basically told you that you are gonna be able to bang her. so just keep doing the same things youve been doing and you are golden.

milf island- yeah that line could mean a few things, but 9/10 it is that she just wants to be friends. thats cool for now, because maybe as she gets to know you that will change. if she is gonna be that blunt then you might as well be equally blunt and ask her what she meant

such a girl move.
youre fine.
next time she invites you over, decline.
wait 2 days.
if you dont hear from her in that time, tell her youre popping popcorn and need someone to share it with (or something implying come over and you arent leaving)
ship it.
and next time instead of going straight down why not try uptop first, unless that was implied and i missed it.

Hahaha What an effin joke. Not on your part, but hers. She most likely is hung up on this guy, but hanging out with you because he is too far away for anything to happen. If it was up to me I would see if she likes this guy and if she does then screw it. I would leave everything as a friendship. So at this point its up to your discretion. If you feel you can get her and your game is good enough to make her not worry about this guy then let me know and I can guarantee she will think about you more than him. Or you can do what you are doing and just hope that you get to tap that soon before her "best friend" gets in town.

Cheers guys, I realise it isn't the most difficult situation but just wanted a few other opinions.
I like the idea of declining if she invites next time, but I'm not sure I have the strength.
Didn't attempt top first. Mistake, as she has epic terts. But she was fully clothed and I didn't wanna go all clumsy and bumbling as was 99% sure to happen if I tried to undress her. She was wearing like a non-existant skirt though and even smaller thong so that route was obv easier.

Thanks for confirming that it is ******ed on her part, I wondered if I was being harsh. I was just like "wtf b1tch", in my head obv. I'm thinking similar to you that she really likes this guy but obv she can't do anything about it. I did half jokingly tell her the other day it sounds like she's really hung up on him and she replied like "it's really not like that" and "he wishes".

Also, edit, if we have sex I'm prolly gonna go all needy and want a relationship. Which is cool, but not if she doesn't feel that same, so it isn't so much a smash and grab job.

roll her on top of you--> shirt off is ez game

Learn how to un do a bra in less than 2 seconds. If you do learn this the rest is easy. Since I get the feeling you are going to just try and ignore the "best friend", learn how to do the bra thing. Also if you do cook her dinner. You must make it look effortless. Women love guys that do things that are difficult but appear they have exerted 0 energy or time.

If she replied, "it's really not like that" then take her word for it at the moment. If you two develope a relationship then of course you can ask questions, but for now just leave it alone. Also it doesn't have to be a smash and grab. It can be a smash and stay, rinse and repeat.

^^^ Textbook play 101