wait...wat?


The 3rd point seems really bad. Everyone in my junior/senior class from my alumni high school, parties with all of the freshman/sophmore kids that just graduated in college during the summer/winter/some weekends. The main difference in how the act is how big of binge drinkers they are, as alcohol is a lot more accessible. Girls from 17-20 in the US, besides that, are all the ****ing same. Clueless, binge drinkers, who make a lot of really ****ty decisions in life, and imo, make bad girlfriends. That said if you dont mind dating these girls, and its legal in your place of residence, go for it.

until girls hit the bar scenes, they are usually just a waste of time, imo, in trying to date.

There's still a significant difference between people continuing some level of friendship they had with fellow high schoolers after the older ones move on to the next step, and a guy who's old enough to be graduating college going after a junior in HS who he barely knows at this point.

His situation already had some bumps in it before he mentioned the age thing. Now that he has, I just don't see how he can't come up with 100 situations that are better than this one to pursue.

Yeah I meant she's definitely into the green.

But LKJ made me feel like a pedo, so I'll move on.

It was nothing personal, vin. But obviously I think you're making the right move to look for a better situation.

[QUOTE=CCuster_911;27022455 Girls from 17-20 in the US, besides that, are all the ****ing same. [/QUOTE]

agree bigtime. College just amplifies the situation but they're still doing the same thing they did in high school. parties, drinking and ****ing.college is def. not the introduction to any of those three.

Ok so how is vintage/crc and karak/bg situation different, Vintage just graduated dating someone who probably has ties with high schoolers, and karak in law school getting involved with someone in undergrad with probably some strong ties to high school aged peeps.

I understand how it seem s little creepy(and would never do it myself), but Dertty is right with people giving this guy more **** over it purely because hes a random, not just solely the highschool/college thing.

Also old enough to be graduating college is a bull **** thing to say in any situation and I hope you know this.

I think calling a girl "bro" is a pretty good sign that you're at a comfort level where you don't have to be "on" all the time. Personal detail: Calling a girl "bro" specifically is a litmus test for me to see if she's a relaxed and funny enough person to get more serious with. Not kidding at all.

Also: 12/20 on the test, thank god I'm good looking.

14/20

And yeah vin, I'm 25 dating a 20 y/o. It's definitely not standard and thus subject to ridicule, but I don't really care.

For what it's worth, I wouldn't have dated a 17 y/o at 22, nor an 18 y/o at 23 (though hooking up is def allowable with 18 to 23). Fire away any questions you might have, b/c you seem to be still a little unclear. Not hatin, just tryin to right the ship =)

Umm, you're asking me this? Why? It's no secret to anyone that the Karak/BG situation was a complete and total mess, and I've never endorsed Vintage's situation really either.

No. Not purely because he's a random. I don't even think that's a factor in it. Absolutely no validity of any kind to that comment. If you're convinced that a reg wouldn't take **** for that, then I'm not going to be able to persuade you and won't bother trying. I'd love to know which reg ITT just gets a pass for everything. Doesn't everyone here take their share of beatings...?

No, I do not know this.

Pretty sure the point he's trying to get across is that the fact that he's 23 means nothing wrt his ability to graduate college, given the VAST number of different opportunities (and correlating personal/social changes) that come along between 18-23.

Your point would be valid if we were discussing a 20 y/o high school senior.

edit - I'm 25 and still don't have a piece of paper on the wall from any college, so take that biased post w/ a grain of salt.

Umm, which point is that which would be valid?

I wasn't passing judgment on anyone for not having a diploma at age 22. I didn't get mine until 23. Perhaps my wording wasn't great, but I was simply saying that a person at the beginning of college years and a person still hanging around college at 22/23 are different beings. A person changes a hell of a lot in 3-5 years at that age.

I don't always know what CC is griping about though, because I lost my decoder ring a while ago.

Your implied point, at least the way that I read it, was "if you're 23, you're old enough to have a college degree." That's what I was responding to.

It might not have been how you meant it, and I might have looked into it incorrectly, but that's just how I kinda read between the lines, and thus might have interpreted CC's perspective. I could be completely wrong though, in which case... carry on =)

Ummm...aren't you old enough to have a college degree at that age?

you know wtf I mean. "old enough to have" = "should have" -- at least by your tone.

Um arnt some 18 year olds old enough to have a college degree? Havent people graduated college at 13-14? wtf does old enough to graduate college even mean.

For example at my brothers graduation in may the youngest graduate just turned 19, so I guess Vintage is dating someone old enough to graduate college?

My tone? Did that somehow overrule my explicit words?

Whatever was wrong with my post, I've clarified. Twice now, I guess. Was there anything else?

Hence why your clarification was after my saying that old enough to graduate college is an absurd thing to say... So if you needed to clarify, to: "Older than the average college graduate", or something along those lines, how is "old enough to graduate college" not something stupid to say?

Holy ****. Are you now continuing a tangent just to try to get me to say something stronger than this? And if so, why?

BG was a sophomore this past academic year IIRC. Yeah, a graduate student going after a Soph is a little eh but whatever.

That said, a senior in uni wanting anything to do with someone in hs is just weird.

Other than the law it has much less to do with age and much more to do with maturity/life stage IMO.

For example, I (briefly) went out with a prodigy when I was 16 or 17. While we were the same physical age, the fact that she was graduating college and I was still asking my parents for lunch money made all the difference in the world.

Eh I don't disagree completely with making sure she doesn't take life too seriously but I guess I just phrase things differently when speaking to a girl.

I can recall exactly one time where I called her "dude" on accident and she just gave me this "what?!" look and then laughed. I was glad she had that reaction but definitely made it clear that wouldn't be a regular occurrence either.

Jesus Christ ccuster, nit harder...

good point.

The present version of a 23/24 year old man is a lesser version in terms of accepting responsibility and being mature. Back then, 23/24 meant you had a job, a wife, a mortgage. Now 23/24yr olds are characterized by student debt, video games, usually more sexual partners, and living with their parents. You can explain this using many reasons why but it's true. The expectation level and general lifestyle has gone down significantly.

Couple that with the fact that females have demonstrated that their academic performance is on par, if not slightly higher than males, their earning power has improved drastically, and that women have more power in society now all mean that there exist scattered levels of success and maturity in both sexes from 18-23. Since physical maturity develops earlier in females than males, and that men generally aren't as impressive as they once were I think it's not right to limit the freedom of choice in sexual partners for females.

lol ccuster