This girl got you tripping man, Dont worry about matching socio-economically, She is probably already aware of that but she still went on a date with you, just focus on having a good time when youre with her and everything will fall into place. let her decide if youre a match or not, you concentrate on being yourself.

I think you're right but the "only made out once on a first date because I worry it gives off the wrong vibe" had me in a weird thought process. Although my rebuttle to that was/is A+. I always say how ppl's number or sexual actions don't bother me, I judge morality off other things like how you treat the wait staff, and as long as you confidently make the decision I find it healthy. A lot of girls play this submissive like "oh I was at a bar, couple drinks in, next thing I know we're at his place ughh why do I always do this" guilt trip but they really want it. So as long as the girl is like no this is what I want I'm young and attractive and I want to **** this person , etc. I think it's good.

Girls always love that response because now they feel empowered by having sex and like by choosing consciously to do it are being a better person.


Ya. I should just be happy I'm doing so much right that I'm going on dates with this type of woman and crushing the esculating part and have enough interesting things to say to be an equal, minus the live at home part, that's when it either went a little south or I just projected it onto her.

She quit her job at Apple (like headquarters; not mall store) to travel the U.S. and just came back. All her friends have cool jobs in LA and SF being writers, fashion, etc. like she's been backstage for a ton of DJ's and coachella. She's traveled to Europe twice. Has modeled but her look is very girl next door, is working on a cook book. Her ex bf is a stand up comedian lol.

So ya it was just like oh **** I like this girl, she likes me, we connect on music, podcasts, comedy, choosing experiences over possessions, all this stuff and then I got depressed that I've procrastinated some aspects of my life that can be such a turn off to some women that I may be blowing it. Going to workout now and be positive that not a lot of other ppl can even be in that situation and 12yo Jeff never thought he would be

She may have lived and experienced more cool stuff but maybe she doesnt want to be with a guy from that same type of lifestyle because it comes with negatives too? She may just be looking for a down to earth guy that is fun and doesn't spend all day bragging about how many countries hes been to and what celebs he knows. I used to have this misconception that older women dont go for younger guys and that mindset was probably the reason why I couldnt get older women for while. Once i started concentrating on having fun with them teasing them and being myself then my results with older women changed.

How people treat the wait staff and service employees is huge for me too, shows a lot of their character IMO

Connected on many levels...

Experience over possessions....

Yet she's out of your social economic league....

Meh,she wanted a meaningless bang and you didn't deliver,so she started to cry.

Or worse,she wanted a meaningless bang,didn't get one and realized how pathetic her life was at that moment.





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yikes, Id hope not

but def coulda banged imo

Yeah, if it were me, I'd obviously visit both cities, but Melbourne does sound cooler. Would recommend Melbourne at that time of the year just to go to the Aus Open.

Jeffs most recent snap story responds to this. fwiw.

lol

Thread title idea

"2016: it's like as soon as I cum, I come to my senses"

^ I support that change.

im for that change too

Appreciate the advice. Planning a euro trip for this summer as well. Might start a thread for suggestions.

So the date with this tinder girl will be later this week. We are grabbing a coffee. I just need to check some things.

Is it ok to compliment her looks at first sight?
Do I buy her coffee + cookie or whatever she orders? Its like $10 max. (Im thinking no but interested in what you guys think)
Im going for a casual look, like a shirt and jeans. Thoughts?

im not sure if things are setup differently where you are but seems clear to me that you let her order first then you order and pay for both

Dress casual but semi nice, give her a hug when you see her and compliment her, stand next to her when you order but either say or open your body towards her direction to signal she should order first, you pay, then when you sit down try to angle the seats so that your two seats share one corner of the table so you're in touching distance. The rest is just your personality.

Kiss at the end pretty much everytime unless you know it was horrible

Agree with them. My standard dress in that spot would be boots/chukkas + untucked button down + jeans or chinos.

Thanks for advice guys. I dont know if you remember approx 1.5 years ago I went on a date with a girl that eventuelly became my girlfriend. I kissed her at second date...first date seems a bit...much. But we'll see.

Purposely showed times to show the slow response. Gameplan was to say how's SF, then when she says good I say I was hoping to catch you before we both start our nights and ask her out to this cool Tuesday game night at a bar with giant Jenga. On the date she asked if any bars have that. And she's leaving again on Wednesday.

But ya I'm not going to send the text based on her response and body language at the very end of the date. If she never texts maybe I'd take a shot in like a week, asking her to King's game since she used to be a huge fan back in the Chris Webber days, but ohwell. I have Thanksgiving eve girl to hangout with at least once this upcoming weekend, which btw has the second best boobs I've been with, and best BJ I've ever gotten and I'm not really a BJ person. She's like 5'10 but not really gf material despite being cool.

Oh and I have no idea who that guy is but I googled it thinking maybe it's like a famous soccer player or something at the same bar as her, but only thing that popped up is its a guy who lives in my city who once trademarked "black out vodka" then didn't finish the process and it lapsed. So sounds like some douchey fake entrepreneurial club guy who may have seem me out a lot?

10 mins and 25 mins are particularly slow response times?

I mean it's just in the context of everything else. Like when I sent the text I didn't feel confident about the situation so 25min and then no response at all just helps the theory of not that interested. The 10min one is irrelevant because she was driving home.

I sent LT5 and Custer her IG to look at. Hopefully I'm not coming across as super sad. It's not ideal but I'm in a really good mood rn with ice coffee buzz and the sun coming out after three days of rain. So pumped for spring/summer

Confirmed 8-8.5

X2 ^

Edward Johnson? Yeah, I agree.

Peace out America, see ya in May. Till then, European hunnies here I come...

Dante on suicide watch or what?