Civ Pro done, thank ****ing God.

MC portions for that subject are just so evil

When disko took it he would have been capable of figuring out the experimental more often than not, but not always. Now that the 4th section is fair game for the experimental as well as the first three it's become a lot tougher, though I really doubt they'll ever make the 5th section experimental.

Never went to or read for Professional Responsibility. Open everything final coming on Wednesday.

1 .Reading model rules.
2. making sure I have model rules quickly accessible for the exam.
3. googling old exams and reading the model answers

Sound about optimal given time remaining?

Think it's worth trying to find an outline that would hit the important cases? Prof said you don't have to remember case names but I never bought the book or canned briefs, so I'll be completely without any cases unless I grab an old outline.

tbh I don't remember there being any important cases

Yeah there aren't any. I mean, there's that one with the crazy dude who killed those people and his lawyer knew where the body was that's worth reading because it's so ****ed up, but it's not like Crim Pro or whatever where the rules come from big cases.

The rules on what triggers a withdrawal from a client are kinda criss crossy so reading the case briefs may illustrate them.

Yeah I failed mine but it all vauge MCs.

what else are you going to do with a poli sci degree tho?

Yea, I just liked them for entertainment value. My favorite was a divorce lawyer who broke into the wife of a client's house and microwaved her cat. 5 year suspension of his legal license for conduct unbecoming the legal profession, but no disbarment, lol.

Got Copyright tomorrow morning. It's open everything and I've already had IP which covered pretty much everything we've done this semester (though in a more cursory manner) so all set for some rapeage.

You can be an assistant in a political science lab.

This semester's procrastination nightmare is a paper on the "brainwashing defense." Only 15 page minimum but my mind keeps going blank.

that's what i was thinking when i graduated with one!

heh, this guy is still practicing law in Maryland actually

As I take my first practice Torts exams, I'm realizing my professor should be hired as a writer for the Final Destination series.

Any advice on how to organize answers to these types of questions? We normally end up with several different plaintiffs, several different defendants, and a couple of defenses that each party could raise.

Anyone else here gonna be sworn in in MD in a couple weeks besides tylerdurden? Getting a job is challenging.....starting to ramp up reaching out to contacts as applying on the internet is a crapshoot.

If anyone could share their experiences in trying to get a job right after passing the bar that would be really helpful, thanks.

drugsarebad,

It might seem like an odd way of doing it, but I had success going chronologically and discussing each event in totality before moving on. It worked for me.

Ex:

The car crash gives rise to a cause of action by X against Y if Z. Y is likely to defend by arguing Q. Further, Y may bring an action against D for E arising out of the same crash, but D can probably persuasively argue L.

By voluntary assuming a duty of care, B may well be liable to X for his actions immediately after the crash but not if...

and I just continued going through it that way. For my brain, when I try to organize it by plaintiff or something I tend to miss things. Almost certainly going to be a personal preference type thing though.

it's probably easiest if you separate by claims. for example:

(1) X's claim against Y for false imprisonment.
(2) X's claim against Z for battery
(3) Z's claim against X for intentional infliction of emotional distress
(4) Z's claim against M for negligence

in other words, i wouldn't suggest putting counterclaims under the same heading. keep everything separate. make it easy for the prof to give u points. so your answers will look something like this:

(1) X's claim against Z for battery
---(a) elements of battery
---(b) analysis of whether elements are satisfied
---(c) analysis of whether Z has a defense such as self-defense
---(d) conclude how court is likely to rule.

Hehe this is gonna end up being me. I've always wanted to be a lawyer anyway, (and yes I've done a ton of research on it and know what attorneys actually do) so money isn't the biggest consideration.

I'm just now going back to school after 4 years of poker, and just decided to sorta move up my timetable by a year because I'm already 26 and really just want to get started ASAP. I had a pretty ****ty GPA the first time around (~2.6) over like 53 credits. I'd really like to make nothing but A's this time around, which I've already locked up this semester. If I'm going to apply to start in the fall of 2013, I know I need to get apps in by Nov 1st or so, because I'm most likely going to ED to one of my reach schools. I have really lofty goals for where I'd like to go, so I know I need to study like crazy for the LSAT, and I'm going to attempt to put in around 300 hours of study before the October test.

I'm wondering if I should really try to finish as many classes as possible before getting apps in because ostensibly my GPA will be going up w/ every class I take. It's going to be pretty tough to try and take a bunch of classes and study really hard for the LSAT at the same time, so I'm not sure if the GPA boost will be worth it. I've heard that once you're under a school's 25% median, it doesn't really matter exactly what your GPA is. Anyone know how accurate that is? Even making perfect grades and taking a bunch of classes, I'm going to be under the 25% median at most of my target schools, so I wonder if maybe I should just focus my attention on the LSAT and not worry about school as much. One other consideration is that straight A's would really help the narrative in my Personal Statement.

You can come and intern for me in a 6 attorney firm in Oklahoma City in exchange for donkament coaching

JP,

I'm applying now and yes, practicing for the LSAT is a way higher priority than improving your GPA (obviously still super important) If you can get a great score they're more likely to overlook fairly bad grades than just having a dece LSAT and still poor GPA. And yes, markedly higher grades will help if you plan to write about how you remotivated yourself, etcetc. Schools notice if your GPA is in an upward trend.

If you are JP OSU, do you disclose poker on law school apps/interviews. I just ask because unlike most of us he's got huge results which might be viewed more favorably by non-poker players.

Got the MPRE results in after spending 5.5 hours in class taking the Copyright exam. Made a 90, so I guess I'm ethical enough for every state in the nation. Big props to BarBri because I just watched that 6 hour video, reviewed the notes I took watching it the morning of the test, and tried to remember as much PR as I could from last semester.

My gf absolutely waxed my ass for bragging rights though by making a 116. It's all good, though because she's a Bama fan and LSU beat them later in the day, making us 1-1 for bragging rights on Nov. 5th.

Edit: Copyright wasn't that bad, but was extremely long (or at least I took an obscene amount of time on it because I could). I think I finished 3 words shy of the total 2900 word count between the three exams. I think I issue spotted pretty well, but I guess it wouldn't have mattered that much as I literally had no room to add anything else.

if ur gpa is below the school's 25th% then it really doesn't matter how far below u are bc ur gonna drag down the number either way.

upward trends are not important. it's the end result that matters. having a feel-good story about how u went from a 2.5gpa to a 3.1 gpa really isn't gonna help u if the school's 25% is a 3.3. this is largely a numbers-driven process and very very few schools take a holistic approach in evaluating applicants. from what i can tell the ONLY time schools might be willing to overlook a bad gpa is when ur comin from a real major from a real top univ (e.g., engineering from MIT). during my application process i spoke with many ppl in my situation and these ppl tended to do much better than everyone else despite having similar lsat/gpa.

if ur countin on the lsat to get u into a good school, be aware that some schools lsat-whore more than others and there are limitations of how far a good lsat will take u (i had almost a perfect score and only got into a couple t14s). i have no idea of what schools ur lookin at but off the top of my head the t14s who will let anyone with a 177+ in are NU and GULC, the non-t14s who will admit any 170s are WUSTL, UIUC, Minnesota and indiana.

grats.

i mean, that's tough because even then its still prolly a negative freeroll imo. very very few are going to give you an in or really appreciate what it means to be that good at poker and some will think that that you might be inconsistent in things you work at, you're a gambler or whatever else ridiculous assumptions.

For the record, as a non-URM, a 165 was all it took to get me admission with a scholly at Indiana...and my GPA was way below the 25th percentile.

That's more of a general FYI since I know PBM isn't looking at IU.

Hehe thanks, might just take you up on that!

I've really given this a done of thought, and I'm leaning strongly towards including it. If I don't I have to make an excuse for what I was doing for 4+ years. Plus I'm going to be a splitter anyway so there's gonna be a ton of variance in my app cycle regardless, and I think it's pretty likely that at least one or two AdComm's who read it will think it's pretty cool.

I'm def aware of how number driven it is, but I do think I will have a pretty compelling story that will help me out a little. My absolute dream schools are Michigan, UVA, and UT, but I think UT will be out due to what appears to be a GPA floor. Below them I really like GULC, WUSTL, Vandy, GW. If I can't kill the LSAT and get into one of those, I'm most likely just gonna go to OU for super cheap and get instate tuition. I really don't know for sure where I want to practice, so I don't wanna just go to one of those highly ranked big ten schools and be tied to that area of the country forever.

I went to OU fwiw with a really high LSAT score. If you stay in Oklahoma you can still make 6 figures outside of corporate law. PM me if you need more info.

ur compelling story isnt going to help u at all. i promise. i have an extremely unique background and my cycle played out exactly as it should have.

if ur gpa is ~3.0 u have virtually no chance at michigan uva ut and vandy. gulc wustl and gw are lsat whores and u can get in there if u crush lsat.