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View Poll Results: Lately Covid and Delta infection are in rise. There is so much speculation if the WSOP will pos
I think vaccination should be mandatory
25 43.10%
I dont think vaccination should be mandatory
26 44.83%
If they make it mandatory I will go I am vaccinated
26 44.83%
if they don't make it mandatory I will not go.
2 3.45%
If they make it mandatory I have no choice but will get vaccinated and go
2 3.45%
if they make it mandatory i will stay home. I am not vaccinated and don't want to
5 8.62%

08-04-2021 , 12:47 PM
Lately Covid and Delta infection are in rise. There is so much speculation if the WSOP will postpone or continue with some kind of vaccination criteria . What do you think ?
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08-04-2021 , 01:37 PM
What about the people who already got covid? Would they require to get vaccinated also or just show proof of recovery with the first positive test results vs testing negative later after recovery?
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08-04-2021 , 02:11 PM
Although not a lot of research has been done on it, natural immunity is likely the best way to prevent infection. But there is no system in place to track that info (for obvious reasons).

Relying on positive tests would not be good, too many false positives. Just look at Jon Rahm.
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08-04-2021 , 02:46 PM
I don't feel it should be mandatory, however precautions still need to be taken.

Suggestions (for simplicity, assume having covid antibodies are considered unvaxed)
Unvaxed need to show daily negative covid test
Unvaxed need to wear mask

Last edited by davepoker; 08-04-2021 at 02:47 PM. Reason: clarity
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08-04-2021 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by davepoker
I don't feel it should be mandatory, however precautions still need to be taken.

Suggestions (for simplicity, assume having covid antibodies are considered unvaxed)
Unvaxed need to show daily negative covid test
Unvaxed need to wear mask
Question is not about if vaccinations is mandatory.
Question is if you are attending WSOP , can or will WSOP refuse players who are not vaccinated entry to the tournament or Casino ?
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08-04-2021 , 04:57 PM
Good question River.
Have attended WSOP every year since 2006, and have a flight and hotel booked for 2 1/2 weeks this year. It has always been the highlight of the year for me.
I had my second vaccination 1/26, feeling good.
I will likely cancel the trip if the current rate of delta infections continues and there is not an appropriate booster available. So likely to contract ( non-fatal, but, bad) Covid in that situation.
Likelihood of WSOP or any of the Vegas casinos barring nonvaccinated people is very small, vaccinated people themselves can be asymptomatic carriers and spreaders and we all know how the policy of requiring masks is mostly a joke. The only positives about the WSOP space are the very high ceilings in the Pavillion room, and to a lesser extent in the Amazon room, but, think of the crush of people in the hallways, bathrooms, elevators.
Missed last year, may have to miss this year also, hoping for a booster.
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08-04-2021 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by davepoker
I don't feel it should be mandatory, however precautions still need to be taken.

Suggestions (for simplicity, assume having covid antibodies are considered unvaxed)
Unvaxed need to show daily negative covid test
Unvaxed need to wear mask
Being that the vax'd are also spreading COVID, shouldn't everyone be subject to these actions?
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08-04-2021 , 11:27 PM
From a personal health perspective, the vaccine makes sense. But to make sweeping public policies or event plans based on stab in the dark assumptions about its efficacy are silly.
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08-05-2021 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerHero77
Although not a lot of research has been done on it, natural immunity is likely the best way to prevent infection. But there is no system in place to track that info (for obvious reasons).

Relying on positive tests would not be good, too many false positives. Just look at Jon Rahm.
did he ever get the blood antibody test to verify he never had covid?
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08-05-2021 , 03:27 AM
Want to play poker with few other thousands of players? Just do the vax. Very simple. You don't want to? You can stay at home and nobody can force you to do it.
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08-05-2021 , 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by riverph7
Question is not about if vaccinations is mandatory.
Question is if you are attending WSOP , can or will WSOP refuse players who are not vaccinated entry to the tournament or Casino ?
I plan on going, however I don't think they can or will refuse entry for unvaxed.

I feel it may open up the floodgates for lawsuits
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08-05-2021 , 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by davepoker
I plan on going, however I don't think they can or will refuse entry for unvaxed.

I feel it may open up the floodgates for lawsuits
How many businesses were sued during pandemic which restricted to do business with people who wore mask ? I think every business refused entry to their business if you don’t wear a mask.
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08-05-2021 , 08:31 AM
Don’t get me wrong,I am not a divisive person. I don’t get inspired by one political thinking or other.

I have family member and friends who did not get vaccinated. But at least we know ( Infect they let us know every time)and we keep our distance .

I don’t mind if WSOP comes up with any kind of solution. With a small sample survey yet , we know both sides has significant followers. And we respect!
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08-05-2021 , 11:55 AM
If you took a survey asking if people were OK with driving drunk and half the people said, Yeah, sure, what's the problem?, I would not respect them.

One question arises: if a person was unvaccinated, wanted to attend the WSOP, and found that a vaccination mandate was in place, wouldn't that person get the shot already? I mean, it's free, takes fifteen minutes of your time, and is all but painless.

The larger question here is whether incentives, as in, "you can't do x or go to y unless you get the shot," would help elevate our shamefully low vaccination rate.
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08-05-2021 , 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by davepoker
I plan on going, however I don't think they can or will refuse entry for unvaxed.

I feel it may open up the floodgates for lawsuits
There's ample precedent that a private business can refuse entry to its premises for any reason, or for no reason for that matter.

Though Nevada casinos have immense political power, there has been some noise about a casino floor being a public place and thus open to the public no matter what. But the WSOP room is a dedicated area wherein a specific event is held. I doubt that any such lawsuit would get very far. Plus, suing a casino in Nevada carries about the same chance of success as trying to fight a grizzly bear with a letter opener.
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08-06-2021 , 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerHero77
Although not a lot of research has been done on it, natural immunity is likely the best way to prevent infection. But there is no system in place to track that info (for obvious reasons).
If you have natural immunity and are thinking of getting the jab anyway just to make everyone happy, talk to your doctor first. There are indications that having natural antibodies makes getting jabbed dangerous.

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Relying on positive tests would not be good, too many false positives. Just look at Jon Rahm.
People have reported getting a positive even though they never took a test. Apparently the threshold for a positive result is very low.
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08-06-2021 , 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bortzork
Good question River.
Have attended WSOP every year since 2006, and have a flight and hotel booked for 2 1/2 weeks this year. It has always been the highlight of the year for me.
I had my second vaccination 1/26, feeling good.
I will likely cancel the trip if the current rate of delta infections continues and there is not an appropriate booster available. So likely to contract ( non-fatal, but, bad) Covid in that situation.
Likelihood of WSOP or any of the Vegas casinos barring nonvaccinated people is very small, vaccinated people themselves can be asymptomatic carriers and spreaders and we all know how the policy of requiring masks is mostly a joke. The only positives about the WSOP space are the very high ceilings in the Pavillion room, and to a lesser extent in the Amazon room, but, think of the crush of people in the hallways, bathrooms, elevators.
Missed last year, may have to miss this year also, hoping for a booster.
I know a guy in another forum, vaccinated and sick with the rona right now. They told him his jab was only good for 6 months. Consult your doc.
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08-06-2021 , 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by bortzork
Good question River.
Have attended WSOP every year since 2006, and have a flight and hotel booked for 2 1/2 weeks this year. It has always been the highlight of the year for me.
I had my second vaccination 1/26, feeling good.
I will likely cancel the trip if the current rate of delta infections continues and there is not an appropriate booster available. So likely to contract ( non-fatal, but, bad) Covid in that situation.
Likelihood of WSOP or any of the Vegas casinos barring nonvaccinated people is very small, vaccinated people themselves can be asymptomatic carriers and spreaders and we all know how the policy of requiring masks is mostly a joke. The only positives about the WSOP space are the very high ceilings in the Pavillion room, and to a lesser extent in the Amazon room, but, think of the crush of people in the hallways, bathrooms, elevators.
Missed last year, may have to miss this year also, hoping for a booster.
It seems like you are writing my story (: LOL

I have attended WSOP since 2006 too except 2020.
I am already booked for 2 trips during WSOP. September 29 and October 26th. Hotel and car rental also booked.

And as Real McCoy said I am sure WSOP will make decision for their best interest ( PROFIT).

Right now I am on the fence. If the situation get worse, I will have to cancel my trip with very sad heart.

Keeping my fingers crossed and praying
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08-06-2021 , 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by bortzork
Good question River.
Have attended WSOP every year since 2006, and have a flight and hotel booked for 2 1/2 weeks this year. It has always been the highlight of the year for me.
I had my second vaccination 1/26, feeling good.
I will likely cancel the trip if the current rate of delta infections continues and there is not an appropriate booster available. So likely to contract ( non-fatal, but, bad) Covid in that situation.
Likelihood of WSOP or any of the Vegas casinos barring nonvaccinated people is very small, vaccinated people themselves can be asymptomatic carriers and spreaders and we all know how the policy of requiring masks is mostly a joke. The only positives about the WSOP space are the very high ceilings in the Pavillion room, and to a lesser extent in the Amazon room, but, think of the crush of people in the hallways, bathrooms, elevators.
Missed last year, may have to miss this year also, hoping for a booster.
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Originally Posted by riverph7
It seems like you are writing my story (: LOL

I have attended WSOP since 2006 too except 2020.
I am already booked for 2 trips during WSOP. September 29 and October 26th. Hotel and car rental also booked.

And as Real McCoy said I am sure WSOP will make decision for their best interest ( PROFIT).

Right now I am on the fence. If the situation get worse, I will have to cancel my trip with very sad heart.

Keeping my fingers crossed and praying
Do I go all in and call the shove with AK or not ? Am I on the bubble, First hand, mid day, 10 players left ? Entirely to many unknowns to give an informed logical answer. Personally we should all proceed in whatever manner we are comfortable. I can't imagine sitting at a table and sweating COVID concerns and playing my A game. Maybe the WSOP experience and your B game is worth it to you (generic). Personally I have booked my stay and it is highly unlikely I will change my plans but I will let the unfolding actions dictate my final decision. Personally as I have said before .... While I respect COVID I refuse to live in fear - but that is simply the mind set i am comfortable with. We all make our own informed decisions.
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08-06-2021 , 10:24 AM
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Do I go all in and call the shove with AK or not ? Am I on the bubble, First hand, mid day, 10 players left ? Entirely to many unknowns to give an informed logical answer. Personally we should all proceed in whatever manner we are comfortable. I can't imagine sitting at a table and sweating COVID concerns and playing my A game. Maybe the WSOP experience and your B game is worth it to you (generic). Personally I have booked my stay and it is highly unlikely I will change my plans but I will let the unfolding actions dictate my final decision. Personally as I have said before .... While I respect COVID I refuse to live in fear - but that is simply the mind set i am comfortable with. We all make our own informed decisions.
Every intelligent person respects viruses like Covid and Delta . And everyone should. How to prepare and fight the virus is individual choice and understanding of seriousness. I respect Covid too but I may be more prone to the virus than any younger person. In my opinion we all evaluate the risk as per our personal circumstances.

When I made my plans at the time I evaluated the situation and made plans accordingly. But if the situation changes , I will re-evaluate my plans and decision.
I also don’t want to play WSOP event looking over my shoulder and in fear. Scared Money and scared person never can win anything.

Everyone wins with some degree of luck . If I look at my past results I can see I had some luck and my C game as I never made final table or won any bracelets . So I never had my A or B game going with my luck in the past . I also understand every one judge their own game with different standards. Every intention to bring my illusive A game to WSOP this year

Last edited by riverph7; 08-06-2021 at 10:31 AM.
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08-10-2021 , 03:54 AM
This is a problem tho...
https://ibb.co/CJ953qn
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08-10-2021 , 03:54 AM
Basically if I have the "luck" to sit next to a guy with covid, even if I'm vaccinated, Wsop is o v e r for me. Nice
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08-27-2021 , 08:03 PM
Vaccination is must to attend WSOP.

Little late but appropriate steps towards the players safety . Hopefully who ever had a plan to visit WSOP , already got vaccination.

If not previously vaccinated, you still have 30 days before WSOP stars . A practical suggestion, please make sure you look for 1 dose vaccination.

Last edited by riverph7; 08-27-2021 at 08:16 PM.
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08-28-2021 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
If you have natural immunity and are thinking of getting the jab anyway just to make everyone happy, talk to your doctor first. There are indications that having natural antibodies makes getting jabbed dangerous.
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This is not even close to being accurate.
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08-28-2021 , 01:55 AM
That's your opinion. And you think so much of it you'd encourage a guy to not check with his doctor?
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