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*** WSOP Event #57: ,000 NL Holdem World Championship - July 3, 12pm *** *** WSOP Event #57: ,000 NL Holdem World Championship - July 3, 12pm ***
View Poll Results: Who will win the World Series of Poker Main Event?
Darvin Moon - 58,930,000
35 23.33%
James Akenhead - 6,800,000
1 0.67%
Phil Ivey - 9,765,000
62 41.33%
Kevin Schaffel - 12,390,000
0 0%
Steven Begleiter - 29,885,000
5 3.33%
Eric Buchman - 34,800,000
17 11.33%
Joe Cada - 13,215,000
5 3.33%
Antoine Saout - 9,500,000
5 3.33%
Jeff Shulman - 19,580,000
20 13.33%

07-09-2009 , 03:09 PM
Does anyone know the seating assignments yet?
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07-09-2009 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by daneblazer
Does anyone know the seating assignments yet?
Here you go...

Day 3 alphabetical

Day 3 chip count

Day 3 by table

Last edited by Kevmath; 07-09-2009 at 05:06 PM. Reason: removed 2000+ line post
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07-09-2009 , 06:46 PM
Ivey being #17 in chips out of 2000ish is pretty awesome.
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07-09-2009 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by csquard
where do you obtain those spreadsheets?
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07-09-2009 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by peterpjames
Ivey being #17 in chips out of 2000ish is pretty awesome.
Freakin' scared is how I'd be at his table.

Go Ivey go!
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07-11-2009 , 06:36 AM
any body have day 4 chip counts?
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07-11-2009 , 07:42 AM
Day 4 chip counts

Thanks and praise really goes to the WSOP staff who does the hard work putting this stuff together.

Last edited by Kevmath; 07-11-2009 at 08:22 AM.
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07-11-2009 , 07:47 AM
kevmath, you are a star.
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07-11-2009 , 11:11 AM
Looking at the remaining payers, I'm rooting for a final table full of Phils:

Phil Ivey
Phil Hellmuth
Dennis Phillips
Lou Diamond Phillips
Phil Mader
Philippe Castella
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07-11-2009 , 01:03 PM
im rooting for a final table of brendan taylor and 8 idiots.
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07-11-2009 , 02:23 PM
is there a link to watch streaming from main event?
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07-11-2009 , 07:18 PM
This is gonna be a stupid request, but is there any list that has all the big names still left in the main event?
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07-11-2009 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Tbirdx24
This is gonna be a stupid request, but is there any list that has all the big names still left in the main event?
http://www.pokernews.com/wsop/2009/e...p-counts/day4/
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07-11-2009 , 07:59 PM
What a stooooooopid moron who broke the bubble this year.

The flop landed {Q-Hearts}{6-Hearts}{Q-Diamonds} and Hensel fired 20,000 to force folds from the two live players.

Incredibly, Hensel tabled an imaginative {9-Hearts}{2-Clubs}, perhaps to the dismay of the remaining 647 players in the room who wanted to burst this bubble. However they didn't need to worry as Hamadani could only find {4-Clubs}{3-Hearts} in the hole as Hensel held the lead with his nine-high.

Hensel sealed the deal when the {9-Diamonds} spiked on the turn and followed it up with the {9-Spades} on the river to take down the pot.

and as per the suckout rule his luckbox works.
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07-11-2009 , 08:28 PM
i love how all the noobs + tourney donks are always worrying about people making bad plays and sucking out...

"I LOST????"

"I HAD A 65% CHANCE TO WIN"

"IM SHOCKED. I CANT BELIEVE HE CALLED. ZOMG"
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07-11-2009 , 11:04 PM
Go Dan Harrington go!

Is he OK? Did he strain his neck stacking chips?
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07-12-2009 , 02:18 AM
Omg.. MCMATTO, who won like $475k online a few months ago, lives a few blocks away from me in a different fraternity in seattle. He is CL now, this is nuts. if he wins i'm gonna be noob and get pictar with him. Although it's way early and he pbb wont win lol
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07-12-2009 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by npknhldr
This structure would seem to discourage tight play 9handed, and prob. make it relatively stress-free for those with <25bbs to ship it in various spots.
The usual situation where just moving up a spot represents a $500,000+ pay-jump is no longer there, which may also remove lots of the "life EV" calculations that often go into Main Event final table decisions.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bav
A fairly lengthy article covering the payout structure can be found here:
http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news...e-the-best-yet
Interesting comment from the article (regarding the 2005 payouts):

Those inconsistencies were even more visible in the top payouts. Tenth place received $600,000 in 2005, while ninth place got $1 million and eighth place was awarded $1.15 million. In other words, the jumps went from a $400,000 increase to just a $150,000 increase.
Yet that's exactly what they're doing now, except to an even greater extent this year.
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07-12-2009 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Analyst
Interesting comment from the article (regarding the 2005 payouts):

Those inconsistencies were even more visible in the top payouts. Tenth place received $600,000 in 2005, while ninth place got $1 million and eighth place was awarded $1.15 million. In other words, the jumps went from a $400,000 increase to just a $150,000 increase.
Yet that's exactly what they're doing now, except to an even greater extent this year.
And I thought the comments attributed to Barry about needing to follow the Golden Ratio for every player at the final table was odd ("We really should use golden ratios for every place at the final table"). Barry's a pretty schmart feller, but that seems pretty stupid if Barry really meant each successive place should make 1.6x more than the previous. In such a system 1st place would get 47x more than 9th place. No--that's absolutely contrary to the stated desire to flatten out the pay. I'm guessing that's not what he said or not what he meant, and it's not a direct quote from Barry, it's a quote of a quote. That, or Mr Greenstein disagrees with flattening the pay and believes in hugely top-heavy payouts.
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07-12-2009 , 02:27 PM
Well he doesn't seem to be using "Golden Ratio" as we were taught it in school, that's for sure. Also, ratio's for the top spots are, from top to bottom; 1.65, 1.49, 1.39, 1.28, 1.23. So they got together and had a lot of lofty ideas that they decided not to use. This tourney payout structure has the same mess-ups as tournies past - excessively top-heavy, and with a series of really odd pay bumps from 10th to 9th, 9th to 8th, 8th to 7th, etc. And they are still trying for an eye-popping number at the top.

Meh?
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07-12-2009 , 06:07 PM
I'm not really seeing any big problems with the payouts this year. Yes, it's a double-exponential sorta growth, but I think it's pretty well done. Graph all 648 payouts on a semi-log scale and it's pretty smooth save for a knee in the graph at the 100 mark when the size of the increasing payouts escalates.

Some of the oddities people see are because of the stair-steps, I think.

10, 11, and 12 are all paid the same. 13, 14 and 15 are the same. They kinda almost set up 9, 8, and 7 that way, but probably decided to make sure each place at the final table was worth at least a little more. So that's what's going on with 9,8,7--just consider them to be three level payouts averaging 1.32M and then slightly tweaked so each grows a bit.

Places 16, 17 and 18 all pay the same, and places 19-27 all pay the same, and that's another source of an apparent oddity that really isn't all that odd. Folks are seeing that 19-27 pay $353K, 16-18 pay $501K, and 13-15 pay $633K and point out the jump from 353 to 501 is bigger than from 501 to 633. Except that's caused by averaging more spots in to the 19-27 glump.

It's actually a very smooth graph. Each place is paying more than the previous (save for the stair steps), and the rate at which the payouts are increasing is, itself, increasing pretty smoothly. Gee...who woulda thunk calc would come in handy for computing tourney payouts?
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07-12-2009 , 09:33 PM
He's got a little over a million with 206 left.


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07-12-2009 , 11:23 PM
but he practically made no progress in his stack today...I hope he makes the FT...would make it very interesting...lots of very famous name pros still left, including Esfandiari, JC Tran, Hachem, and Eastgate...
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07-12-2009 , 11:29 PM
Hinkle Slowrolled

Blair Hinkle check-called 37,000 from Pat O'Malley on a {K-Clubs} {8-Diamonds} {8-Clubs} flop, before both players checked the {9-Clubs} turn.

Hinkle bet out 65,000 on the {J-Spades} river and O'Malley just called; Hinkle flipped {K-Spades} {Q-Spades} for two pair, but O'Malley turned over {10-Diamonds} {7-Diamonds} for a rivered straight.

"Slowroll," said Hinkle.

Hinkle down to 1,000,000, O'Malley up to 1,100,000.

[ ] Hinkle knows slowrolls
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