The 1b starting days on Saturdays are much softer. Every Professional is gonna fire multiple bullets, but many of those good players make it through on day 1, so less of them on day 2, more recreational players, Saturday less recreational players have to work, etc.

Also I would not recommend late registering. Usually get easier tables if you are there for level 1 because any satellite winner and people taking a shot at a bigger buy in event aren't gonna wanna miss a hand.

If you got only one bullet then day 1b is clear cut choice.

Anyone know expected average field size of the nightly Main Event Sats?

This. Could not have said it any better.

290 or so for day 2a. Total for both days is like 807?. Played down to 49 1st day. 98 second day. Second day lasted until 9 pm. All come back today at 2pm. Pays 81. Hope that helps.

Witnessed a fight break out in the poker room a couple days ago. It was one guy vs like 6 security guards. I don't know if anyone itt saw it but basically what happened was there was a showdown. One guy mucked his hand and the other guy (who got arrested) turned his cards over for ace high. However the guy who initially mucked his cards went back to turn his over for the winning hand. And it was considered a muck but the floor had to go back and look at the camera. The guy with ace high should have stayed calm the entire time. Instead he punched a security guard and went crazy. They were able to get him to the ground, cuffed him and carried him out.

christ caesar's is such an absurd rip off joke. i really can't wait until they are completely broke and have to sell the wsop

Can you register for any event at any time? Or are there certain hours each day?

Also I haven't seen anything in response to the late reg question is it just like six levels

stay at borgata and just drive, thats what i and others are doing


and latereg varies from day to day but its generally 4-5 levels

Yup same. Only coming down for the main and the borgata 560, obv staying at borg the whole time

Does anybody else think like me that the prelim wsopc events have a horrible structure??

Let me elaborate:

Take the $365 re-entry event for example - get 10,000 in chips which is fine I guess, but the blinds are only 30 minutes for the first 12 levels. After that it goes to 40 min for I believe 9 levels and then it goes to 50 min.

To me, it is horrible because in the middle(the heart of the tournament)there is hardly any post-flop play.

I was the chip leader going into day 2 on Sunday and I only had a little over 100bb. The avg stack was between 25-30 bb so what does that mean?? It means that the tournament turned into a "raise, all-in or fold" fest.

At my table for example, blinds were 1500-3000. I raise to 7000, guy shoves for 40k. I raise to 7000, another guy shoves for 55k, etc.. This was exactly how it was the whole entire time basically. In fact, guys with 100k stacks were doing the same thing over and over again. Now I understand that there is a different kind of game with this kind of play, but is it wrong to expect post-flop play when there is $50,000 on the line for first??? I spoke to others about this and they noticed the same thing. I guess I am spoiled being used to Borgata and their great structures/chip stacks, etc.

All in all, when I did see flops I missed draws-couldn't really get anything going and was coolered a few times but that's not the point of this. I'm just trying to lay it out there that yes, I know it is only a $365 buy-in but was not ready for the shove fest that occurred yesterday. I guess when the avg stack is only 30 bb, that is what will happen.

Lastly, look at event #3, the $580 tournament. They had almost 200 entries for that event and ONLY 11 made it back for day 2 today(which Chris Reslock won - nice job Chris).I mean, 11 people made it to day 2??? It's a joke imo.

That's why I left and will only be back for the main and Borgata. Good luck to everyone!!!

An avg stack of 30bb late in the tournament is pretty decent for a $365 event

It wasn't late in the tournament, it was at the BEGINNING OF DAY 2.

Sorry but a 30 bb avg. at the beginning of day 2 is not very good imo.

Righhhhht, there's a borgata tourney. When is that again? God I'm awful at this live pro thing

Pretty sure its 3 day 1s: the sunday after the main, and mon+tues

if any of you saw my previous post linking to the thread about a bad ruling at the wsopc, I typed out part of the incident wrong, and I have corrected this. Here is the updated and corrected story:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...-city-1307307/

Does anyone know where I can find the structures for the
$1K Satty to the WSOP ME on 3/11 at 5p?

Also, how many runners does this typically get? Has anyone here played in this?

Is there free parking at Caesars?

No unless you're upgraded on your total rewards card. It's ten bucks.


Also, mad borovetz is mad. They won't change tho, wsop is very non-player friendly unfortunately

I know they won't change - I mean, look at the WSOP at the Rio - get 3000 chips for a $1000 event. When players ask mgmt about why so few chips - the response is that the BIGGER BUY-INS deserve more chips/play because it's more expensive.

Well, for the average person/poker player $1000 or $1500 is pretty expensive for a poker tournament. Not only that but they skip 2500-5000 level deep in the tournament which is always nice of them to do.

The only saving grace is the 60 min levels.

Anytime in a $580 tournament of around 200 players and only 11 come back for day 2 - not really appropriately structured imo.

Ha!
Be grateful for small favors.
In the 2005 WSOP at the Rio, they gave us 1,000 in chips for a $1,000 event.

Starting chips has no bearing on how deep stacks are later in the tournament

they didnt skip 2500/5k in that event mike, take it from someone who made it that far. *Burn*

if wsop 1500s started with more than 3k they would take ****ing forevvvvver.

also, wsop 1500s have phenomenal structures. they get enough people out of there fast enough to have a majority of the field busted by the end of day 1, basically everyone that maeks day 2 cashes (which is good)...and they still have a bunch of play deeper in them. i just wish there was a 2500/5k level in them.

and yeah, what others said, starting stack is not a good indicator of how good a structure is.

1)$1500's starts with 4500

2)I just wrote that they skip 2500-5000 level which you also wished was there.
I agree with that

3)I finished 17th in 1 of the $1500 events and I agree there is a lot more play in day 2. I thought though they had 2500-5000 last year and they are only skipping it this year. Could be wrong though, don't remember exactly.

4)Most poker players would prefer more chips and yes, I understand that a starting stack is not an indicator of how good a structure is. I stated earlier, the hour levels is wonderful at the RIO- however this 30 min nonsense for these circuit events SUCK.

I disagree. I think the 365s and the 580s are more than enough play and the levels get longer as you advance in the tourney. I think the 1ks and 1675 ME should be longer than 30 mins and 40 mins respectively to start but the rest of the price points' structures are fine IMO.