Here are structure sheets from a couple years ago. I don't think they have changed, but you'll want to confirm.

http://www.wsop.com/2015/2015-WSOP-D...All-In-One.pdf


The answer to your other question is it is heavily dependent on the day of week, time of the month and what else is going on. In general, the fields tend to be close to 1000 for the afternoon $235 event, with prize pools of about 200K, though they can be near 2000 on some days, and as few as 500 on others. The lager-turnout tourneys don't typically finish till early morning (4-7am) with and without deals.

Here are results from last year to give you some idea.

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/fest...511.1488652437

Great info, thanks. The structure looks pretty good for the buy-in amount. I was thinking about playing the Colossus but my opt for a few of these instead.

The 235 DDS is the largest family poker game you'll ever play.

Explain?? Is the player skill set comparable between the 235 & 185?

Probably about the same, though I've played far fewer 185s. Either way, you'll see a wide range of skillsets from pros to people who have absolutely no idea what they're doing. There will be lots of rec players too, and those planning to buy-in multiple times, so playing loose.

I highly recommend the Rio DDS for 1st timers to get a taste of the WSOP environment. Only daily tournament where you feel "disappointed" when there aren't at least 800 entries ($235). You can usually expect 800-1300 from about the 4th day of the WSOP until about 5 days before the series ends. Just like was stated above, it depends on what is going on that weekend. I find that Sundays and Mondays have the biggest fields ($235's).
Sometimes you'll see big name pros and celebrities/pro athletes in the field, too.

FYP

Yeah I think I am leaning towards firing a few bullets at these instead of Colossus. I have been to the WSOP many years ago when it was at Binions and the first couple of years it was at Rio but never played a tourney. I primarily play cash games. Honestly I haven't played tournaments since BF, However I got the itch this year to splash around in some tourney action.

do they pay out 15% or 10%?

15

Was trying to be kind

Exactly. So don't get carried away with re-entries unless you're playing purely for entertainment. If you do 3 entries you might have to finish in the top 20 or 30 before you show a profit. 15% payouts suck unless you finish near the very top.

That doesn't impact reentries more than single entries though. Re-entering at level 3 is just as + or -EV as entering the next days DDS at Level 3 right?

That's fine with me. I never re-buy or re-enter. I don;t have the budget for that. i treat every event as a freeze out. I prefer ones that pay out 15%, there's not as extreme of a bubble.

Depends on your point of view I guess. If you can view it as you got skunked in the last tournament and just entered a new one, then yeah. I tend to look at it as I spent $470 to enter today's tournament. I'm not a pro so I view it as a single tournament every day. If I cashed for $450, I'd consider it a failure because I lost $20.

It all works out the same though, because you still need to cash for more than your entry fees overall. Which was my original point. The payouts are so crappy, that any non-cash result is hard to overcome later.

Treating a re-entry as a brand new tournament makes sense, and is something I always do if I re enter into a subsequent day 1 of a multi-starting flight event. One thing I would say, though, is re-entering the same event on the same day is not quite the same thing, since it means you will often re-enter with a chip disadvantage and potentially with some level of tilt due to your bust out. These two factors mean you might not be ready to play your best game, and reentering the same day is something I try to avoid if possible.

In 2016 the $235 averaged 929 players
the $185 averaged 244 players
the $135 averaged 157 players
the $365 averaged 118 players

you can plug in those numbers to see what that payouts would be right here:
http://www.wsop.com/2017/payoutcalculator/

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Hey guys! This is an awesome thread! Just got back on 2+2 in the last couple weeks but my login wouldn't work anymore, probably because of the hack awhile back. Either way ,thanks to this thread I was able to book a room with flights that was the cheapest and also seemingly matched my poker interests in terms of what is being offered during the series. I ended up selecting to go 6/28-7/5. It gave me an extra day off without wasting a vaca day due to July 4th. I was initially worried about it being too late into the series as I usually go in mid-late June but it seems like this time frame will give similar options to someone in my shoes. I usually play MTTs between $200-600.

Anyways, right now I went ahead and booked a room for 7 days at the Rio. In the past, I've always split my time up because I like to spend some time downtown for the cheap table games and a fun 1/2 game at the Nugget. Last year, I spent 3 days at the Linq and 2 days at the Four Queens. It a pretty fun trip, mainly b/c I could drunkenly play some 1/1 cash at the Linq and also some loose 1/2 games at the Flamingo. On top of that, I had a nice cash at an event at the Wynn and made it to day 2 at PH. The Linq was a fun middle spot to get to all of those places.

Based on my travel time and the schedules that all of you great people have posted, I'm thinking I'll play in the Grand Series ME and maybe a Wynn event if it times up when their schedule releases. I'll probably play a daily DS at the Rio since I'll be staying there and I guess I'll mainly play cash there too. I guess my concern is the cash games at the Rio compared to other less popular casinos. I'm sure they'll be juicyyyyyy but one thing I liked about playing at the less popular casinos is that they were less popular which meant a bit less action but also a lot less aggression, which made it fun for me. Any advice on these? I'm guessing I'd just have to adjust to the table liek at any other time and just wait on getting paid. Also, any other suggestions on being out in Vegas at this time??

Also, I paid about $520 for 7 nights at Rio. I could have stayed downtown for $400 but am I getting totally screwed at this price? All I want is a place to stay and I like to play downtown but last time at the Linq with Flamingo close by, it was convenient having other games around

Thanks!!

Did you check your Total Rewards offers first? I wasn't even sure I'd go this year after being out there for the entire series last year, but then I checked my offers and saw lots of comp offers. I can assure you I'm no high roller. Couldn't pass that up and booked the Rio during the Monster Stack. Got to improve on my 63rd place finish last year.



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Yeah if you give them a little bit of play you can get some free rooms. For anyone that doesn't know, CET allows you to book max of 5 consecutive nights comped, however, 3 days later you are eligible for more comped rooms, so if you have a friend that has a couple nights he can get comped and staying for extended time you can book(depending on offers and your level of degenerate) 3-5 nights under you, 3-5 nights under them, 3-5 nights under you all at the same property.

At checkin simply tell the clerk that you have a future reservation and your friend has one in between and ask them to merge all your reservations. I have done this past few years with my buddy (both of you needed at checkin) and they can merge them into 1 long reservation, no need to change rooms, constantly check in/out etc....

Excellent tip.


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Just got an email from Total Rewards with this message:

Pre-registration is now open for all 2017 World Series of Poker® bracelet events. Tournaments fill up quickly.

Um, sure they do, Caesars.