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02-22-2017 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TheFly
But it's not like WSOP has been experiencing declining attendance numbers over the years, in fact, the opposite, which is pretty impressive considering the horrible state of online poker in the USA. So obviously there are enough people willing to take some days off work, if need be, to experience WSOP.

I've been attending WSOP regularly since 2005. I don't think I remember any large-field bracelet event (like your typical $1K-$1.5K NLH) being played ONLY on a single weekend. If you really want to play some WSOP Bracelet Events, I think you need to plan on taking some vacation days. Otherwise, what else can you do except the Daily Deepstacks if your plan is to fly in on a Friday and fly home on Sunday night, for example?

Whoever says that "recs" (whatever that means today) don't want to play 4 day tournaments should just change the sentence to "I" don't want to play 4 day tournaments, because I know plenty of "recs" who look forward to their ~week off at the WSOP.
This debate isn't about the length of the marquee weekend events. I'm not sure why people keep saying there are shorter tournaments available. What this is about is the reasoning behind the change in schedule to make day 2s on Monday instead of Sunday. This change is obviously unfriendly to those players who are going to be coming in for weekends. For years the WSOP has hyped the "weekend warriors". And the change they made this year is anti-weekend warriors. It just doesn't make sense.

As for WSOP attendance... I don't think there has been any sort of precipitous downturn or anything, but I'd be curious what the numbers are for unique entries as opposed to total entries. They used to have no re-entry events and now they have quite a few.

And lastly, as for the definition of "rec" player... I don't think even "rec" players are a monolith. But in general, its people who don't make their living playing poker. This ranges from players who only play a few times a year to players who play every week, like myself. As an example which I cited in an earlier post, I am skipping the Vegas WSOP-C Main Event (which had its schedule changed in a similar fashion) specifically because of the scheduling change and for no other reason. I'm pretty sure I am not alone.
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02-22-2017 , 05:48 PM
Agree. I don't know why anyone is arguing with you.
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02-24-2017 , 01:52 PM
Hi,

In a tournament like the $1500 HORSE where the starting stack is 7500, what denomination of chips would the starting stack be broken down in to? First level is 50-100 for flop games with 100-200 limits. 25 ante, 25 bring in with 100-200 limits for stud games.

Thanks
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02-24-2017 , 01:57 PM
In limit games like HORSE and Razz you usually get more small chips than you would in a NLHE tourney. Maybe 12 each of 100 and 25, then 4 each of 500 and 1k
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02-24-2017 , 06:28 PM
Cheers
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02-24-2017 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by tinytim2006
Cheers
Just curious, why do you ask what is the denomination makeup of a starting stack?

In some events if you late-reg and are sent to the "late-reg" desk for your chip stack and seat assignment, they will just give you (using your 7,500 example) 7 1K chips and 1 500 chip, and you change-up from other players at the table as needed.
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03-01-2017 , 02:42 AM
I will be in Vegas the entire month of
June.
in the past I mostly stayed at the
Rio and Gold coast, this year I'm finding room rates to be a little higher and trying to explore other options.
Any suggestions?
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03-01-2017 , 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by lv2plapkr
I will be in Vegas the entire month of
June.
in the past I mostly stayed at the
Rio and Gold coast, this year I'm finding room rates to be a little higher and trying to explore other options.
Any suggestions?
I have never used it but heard good things about AirBNB
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03-01-2017 , 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by TheFly
Just curious, why do you ask what is the denomination makeup of a starting stack?

In some events if you late-reg and are sent to the "late-reg" desk for your chip stack and seat assignment, they will just give you (using your 7,500 example) 7 1K chips and 1 500 chip, and you change-up from other players at the table as needed.
I've played fixed limit games online for about 13 years but never live. Gonna have a few home games with friends and use the same structure and stack sizes. So I don't do every do everyone's head in when I start playing live ha
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03-01-2017 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by riverph7
I have never used it but heard good things about AirBNB
I have been using AirBnB exclusivley for all my trips the past 2 years and have had nothing but great results and saved a ton of money over hotels. I have not looked at Vegas yet for the summer but hopeful there is some good options.
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03-01-2017 , 06:11 PM
+1 on AirBnB. I stayed in one last summer for $250 for the week. It was about 10 minutes south of the Rio so I rented a car but all in all it was still considerably cheaper than a hotel plus what I would have spent on Uber rides throughout the week.
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03-02-2017 , 04:53 PM
I will be in Vegas in early June and I am thinking about playing the Colossus tourney this year.

Is that tourney worth playing overall? Or would someone be better off playing cash games at the Rio during it?

Thanks
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03-02-2017 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by seiken_nick
Does anyone who has played both the 10k O8 and the 10k plo have an opinion on the difference in toughness between the two tournaments? I would assume the O8 is much stronger field but was curious.
If you're equally skilled in the two, PLO is going to be the better option. Ultimately you should play what you will enjoy the most imo.
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03-02-2017 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tinytim2006
I've played fixed limit games online for about 13 years but never live. Gonna have a few home games with friends and use the same structure and stack sizes. So I don't do every do everyone's head in when I start playing live ha
If I were to guess Id say 500 in 25, 2k in 100, one 1k, and the rest 500. glgl!
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03-02-2017 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by seiken_nick
Does anyone who has played both the 10k O8 and the 10k plo have an opinion on the difference in toughness between the two tournaments? I would assume the O8 is much stronger field but was curious.
Haven't played either BUT if I had to guess I think it would be the other way round. PLO will have the Galfonds and Iveys and Selbsts to contend with. O8 might have those guys too, but they prob spend a lot more time at PLO than O8.
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03-03-2017 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by oscillator
If I were to guess Id say 500 in 25, 2k in 100, one 1k, and the rest 500. glgl!
I've played the limit events, they would run out of chips with that starting stack. It's more like 200 in 25, 800 in 100, 2500 in 500, 4k in 1k chips
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03-03-2017 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Cckid
I will be in Vegas in early June and I am thinking about playing the Colossus tourney this year.

Is that tourney worth playing overall? Or would someone be better off playing cash games at the Rio during it?

Thanks
One man's opinion: I've played in the Colossus the last two years, and won't be playing again. IMO, the Daily Deepstacks are a better value, as well as the single-table Sit-n-Go's/shootouts they have running constantly. My issues with the Colossus is it's basically a turbo, and I prefer longer, deeper tournaments.

This year I think I'm hitting the Marathon for $2.6k instead. Also Goliath and Grand series events at PHo and Golden Nugget (as I've done the last couple of years, as well)

That said, if the structure of the Colossus suits your game, can't beat the value.
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03-03-2017 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by AzOther1
One man's opinion: I've played in the Colossus the last two years, and won't be playing again. IMO, the Daily Deepstacks are a better value, as well as the single-table Sit-n-Go's/shootouts they have running constantly. My issues with the Colossus is it's basically a turbo, and I prefer longer, deeper tournaments.

This year I think I'm hitting the Marathon for $2.6k instead. Also Goliath and Grand series events at PHo and Golden Nugget (as I've done the last couple of years, as well)

That said, if the structure of the Colossus suits your game, can't beat the value.
Thanks for your take. I am not a huge fan of turbo style tournaments but still on the fence about playing in it or not. I might look into the other Series you mention. Haven't played in a tourney for quite awhile and was going to partake in some while I am out there in June.
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03-03-2017 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by lv2plapkr
I will be in Vegas the entire month of
June.
in the past I mostly stayed at the
Rio and Gold coast, this year I'm finding room rates to be a little higher and trying to explore other options.
Any suggestions?
There was another thread (maybe in LV Lifestyle?) where some Euros were renting a nice house (with pool etc) and were looking for someone to rent 1 room in the house. Looked nice and might be an option. Too lazy to search for it but it was in the past couple weeks that they posted.
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03-03-2017 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by AzOther1
My issues with the Colossus is it's basically a turbo, and I prefer longer, deeper tournaments.
It's indeed a turbo tournament... but only in the beginning.
Levels are 60 minutes long on day 2, day 3 and day 4.
And if you look at the previous years, the average stack was pretty decent, even late in the tournament.
So if you're lucky enough to advance to day 2, it's not a turbo anymore!
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03-03-2017 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack Eight
It's indeed a turbo tournament... but only in the beginning.
Levels are 60 minutes long on day 2, day 3 and day 4.
And if you look at the previous years, the average stack was pretty decent, even late in the tournament.
So if you're lucky enough to advance to day 2, it's not a turbo anymore!
Never been that lucky (or skilled, I guess) to make it to day two.

Don't get me wrong, there are things I liked about the Colossus. Playing in a really big tournament or just at the WSOP is a dream for some. Making the money in Day 1 is nice, multiple starting days/multiple flights, now with re-entry, etc add to the value. Also, a bracelet for $565 (x however many tries) would make a great story, plus a cool Million!

Seriously, I played it twice, I wouldn't give up that experience. But, I could buy 6 entries and 6 re-entries and still probably not make the money, due to the turbo nature of that first day. That's on me, of course.
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03-04-2017 , 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack Eight
It's indeed a turbo tournament... but only in the beginning.
Levels are 60 minutes long on day 2, day 3 and day 4.
And if you look at the previous years, the average stack was pretty decent, even late in the tournament.
So if you're lucky enough to advance to day 2, it's not a turbo anymore!
You used the right word - lucky. Last year I didn't make any big hands early and I just flat out ran out of chips shortly after the first break. You have to make hands because as you might imagine in an event like this, early on it's packed with calling stations.
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03-04-2017 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
You used the right word - lucky. Last year I didn't make any big hands early and I just flat out ran out of chips shortly after the first break. You have to make hands because as you might imagine in an event like this, early on it's packed with calling stations.
It would be such a better tourney w/ 40 min rds day 1 and 60 min day 2. Or even just make it 40 min throughout, but 30 min/5k chips is very turbo ish.
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03-05-2017 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Coug MJ
It would be such a better tourney w/ 40 min rds day 1 and 60 min day 2. Or even just make it 40 min throughout, but 30 min/5k chips is very turbo ish.
Way better. But they don't want it to last 6 days
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03-06-2017 , 08:00 PM
Sorry If I missed it. When online Pre-Registration starts for WSOP ?

Thx
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