The time I am speaking of, he was not on a break from playing, which if he was, I wouldn't bother him, and would totaly understand that he was in game mode or deep in thought, but I am talking about on a day he didnt even play, (day1B). We were the only 2 people in the lobby. It wasnt like I was asking for his autgraph or anything, lol. Next time I'm in same situation, I'll simply tell him, I hope he gets his ass wiped tomorrow instead of being friendly.

Oh and Matt, speaking of tips, you can kiss your tips from me goodbye in the future if I don't get that you-know-what '08 thingy you promised.

I stand corrected and apologize to Steve.

I cannot be bought but your jacket is on the way

god i love the interwebs

some random person he doesn't know says gl, and he gives u a dirty look, so he's automatically a dick. please.

and i stand by my statements that it's of no one's business who tips what and it should never be discussed in public like this.

She certainly was chatty during the final table. It was fun to watch.

Matt, I didn't even play in the tournament and I could see from the sidelines that you went above and beyond the call for the players. My hat's off to you.

Thanks, I really do love that event!

I read people good enough to make that call, you not being there and then passing judgment on the situation tells me you really do love the interwebs, please indeed.

My youngest of 3 siblings just turned 20 yesterday, Not a one of them would ever be so low as to not have common courtesy for someone else being polite, for that, I am very proud as a father. A simply 'TY' would of burned up less energy than the pos look he gave me, So it must also be ok, for Brandon to say, have someone in front of him going thru a door, to hold it for him and then not also say 'TY', just blow by them like that person is his slave? cause thats about the same to me as the lobby incident, no big deal, but again, no common courtesy, I'm actually embarrist for his parents if anything, its a reflection on them imo.

I also talked with the floor and dealers when I played yesterday, across the board, I don't think I have to tell you what they think of brandon the stiff?

it became public when dealers started chatting about it at the tables. complain to them, not me.

of course there was one really easy way to avoid the discussion

lol

You calling dealers the Sicilian mob is especially funny considering the main piece of **** you represent, Men the Master.

The real mob would've capped that piece of garbage and had him buried in the Vegas desert eons ago.

Unlike you and Men, at least the mob has a shred of integrity.

my kids, my kids, my kids, lol, 2 boys, 1 girl. They are siblings to each other, oh nevermind, I guess it looks like I am from kentucky the way it reads?.

I don't understand why someone is a dick when they don't leave a tip? How much is he suppose to tip?

If he is a dick for other reasons then so be it.....

LOL Olivert. Seriously way to make an ass of yourself.

The reason someone is a dick for not leaving a tip is because that person just won about 1,000,000 dollars and can't kick some part of their huge win to the men and women that make usually less than minimum wage but worked their asses off to get it right... for the record the custom is 3% for average service more for better service.

If it's the WSOP or some other sites where they withhold out of the prize pool then you're off the hook, your tip was taken when you entered.

If Brandon did stiff the dealers he's an idiot...Especially since the dealers hit him in the head with the deck all week....

About Tipping:

It is a private matter that shouldn't be made public unless that person wants it to be. If it is, it doesn't matter. What one does with one's money is one's own business. Not yours or mine. Some people tip no matter if they have a winning session or losing one. Some tip only when winning. It doesn't matter. It's a matter of choice and is NOT mandatory.

Karma is bull****. Your luck doesn't depend on whether you tip or not. Your future luck doesn't depend on it either. It depends on your mindsight and mentality. For some people the comfort of knowing they tipped and helped a dealer out may actually enable them to play at ease or better. Perhaps they are accustomed to tipping or being tipped (being a busboy or waiter for example) and they see it fit to do so. I have no quarrel with them. Nor do I have beef with those who don't tip. If you are comfortable in your own skin you will play your best. If fear of "karma" makes you tip, then you tip so that you play better. It's a cost you have to incur whereas I, for example, am not affected by "karma" and I don't need to incur this cost. Think about it. It may hold true for you.

Tipping is economically bad. Dealers at TurningStone in NY for example get charged by the government a tax rate that accounts for tipping. Tipping is part of setting the wage rate. If people tip less, then dealers will want to find new jobs. Then there is a shortage of dealers and their base wage goes up (however we live in an imperfect economy so this doesn't necessarily hold completely true).


If you're a losing player (I am down ~$1,250 over 3 years of play) how do you feel about tipping. Especially if the amount of money you deal with at the poker table isn't "play money" and has value to you? I have tipped over $350 over 3 years. In hindsight it is a lot for me to have been tipping that much. Before anyone personally attacks me...I could have easily been up $5000, and how would I perceive $350 then? All the same. I have actually cut down on tipping.

Losing vs. Winning aside, the bottom line in tipping, in poker, and in life is to do what you desire. I have been sneered at by dealers when I take down a big pot in a cash game and I don't tip. I have been thanked when I take down a small pot and tip $1. It doesn't matter to me anymore. Another interesting question. Do you typically tip a dealer when you make a big laydown that ends up being correct? You may have given up hundreds of dollars in the pot but saved hundreds more by folding. Do you tip the dealer or do you pat yourself on the back? Probably the latter. But everyone has different viewpoints...this is just mine.

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Why should anybody tip if they win? Think about it. Do dealers tip you when they deal you a bad beat. No way! By not tipping when you miraculously take home a big cash you are saving up for the next time you get sucked out on the river with a one outer losing your entire bankroll.

Bottom line. The casino takes a tip every hand you play. Let them foot the bill.

I agree 100% with ifold.

So that means he would have had to leave $30,000. Screw that to the dealers that is your job even if you have to deal in a tourney or a normal table. What a joke.

I stand corrected.

I was unaware that the City of San Jose forbids Bay 101 from withholding 3% of the prize pool for guatuities.

Then why do they have it?

How long you been dealing?

I think dealers at a tournament should be given a specific salary for dealing that tournament. They should be paid a certain amount like any other employee for doing their job.

I think this is how every tournament should work.

I was under the impression that the dealers had nothing to do with the outcome of the cards, but maybe I'm wrong.