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Originally Posted by CigarMike
sketchy, buying into the tournament does include any tips, none of that money goes to the dealers or floor, minus the prize pool money, it is for the casino's operating costs, which for the owner of Bay101, only helps offsets the loss he takes on this event. That also includes the wages paid to the staff. The dealers are tipped on a hand to hand basis in cash games, they make nothing during the dealing of the tournament except minimum wages. The tipping shoould come from the winners, so if they got stiffed by the top 2, then do you realy think no one would say anything? Im not saying he did or did not tip, cause i don't know. My opinion if he in fact did not, would be that he is in fact, a dick, and I hope he go's on a long dry spell of losing, cause that is what he would deserve. its called karma.
Complete nonsense.
3% of the prize pool is nomally withheld for dealer and staff gratuity at WPT events (with the exception of the Borgata, where a portion of the ENTRY FEES is set aside for dealer and staff guatuity because the State of New Jersey prohibits guatuity withholding from the prize pool)
EVERYONE who bought into the tournament has already contributed 3% of the buy-in to the pool set aside for dealer and staff guatuities.
Total amount set aside for guatuities at Bay 101: $9600 x 375 players x 3% = $108,000
Given that Brandon's take from Bay 101 was $1,014,500 in cash (including the $10K bonus for Day 1A chip leader and the 6 $5000 bounties, minus the $25,500 withheld for the WPT Championship), Brandon's share of the 3% guatuity pool was $30,435, meaning that Brandon's take would have been $1,044,935 if 3% had not been withheld for guatuities.
Bottom line: Brandon made a mandatory tip of $30,435 to the dealers and staff at Bay 101. That should be more than enough.
The dealers will always complain about not being tipped enough. Frankly, most players are tired of the complaints because 3% have already been withheld at WPT events for gratuity (1.8% is withheld at the WSOP Main Event.)
The dealers should be complaining about not getting enough of their share of the gratuity (vs the share of the tournament director and the floorpersons) to casino management, not to the players.
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I used to believe that it is good form for a player to leave an extra "1%" as a "protection fee" in order to prevent a player from being smeared in the media or on Internet forums by the dealer "cosa nostra" as a stiff.
Given that the dealers seem to complain about not getting the extra "protection fee" at virtually EVERY event, I now advise players NOT to leave a "protection fee" for the dealer "cosa nostra". I now believe that the dealer "cosa nostra" will not be satisfied even with a 1% or 2% "protection fee" and will smear a player as a stiff anyway even if a player were to leave a "protection fee" for the dealer "cosa nostra".
I have heard enough from the dealer "cosa nostra" and I will NOT stand for it anymore.
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One of these days, dealers, cards, and chips will be replaced by electronic tables at major televised tournaments so that spectators at home will be able to follow a tournament's progress instantly without the need for human tournament reporters to track the action.
Sometime in the future (when fields at the WSOP Main Event reach 20,000 to 30,000 players), electronic tables will have to be introduced due to cost and because there won't be enough trained dealers around the world to be able to staff the tables necessary to accomodate that many players.
Last edited by olivert; 03-17-2008 at 08:06 PM.