Why is this not possible?

It happened a couple of years ago, he didn't mention what size event it was, why are you so sure it is a fairy tale?

Where in the post did he say he was blinded out? I see where this other poster said he was down to 10BB but not where he claimed to be blinded. He ,menitoned an agressive pro hitting him on his blinds, doesn't mean the poster didn't play some of those hands.

Since the poster describes a short lived, unsuccessful, first ever, WSOP event, what would be the purpose of him making it up?

i'll share my experiences...first table i had goleafsgo, 2nd table was the worst with kingofcards seat 3, tommy vedes seat 4, sowers seat 6 (altho 8bbs), andy black seat 9...i got gunshy twice with marginal pairs in EP so i folded...3rd table had Nam Le and I got to shove bvb when he completes 11bbs

Would really love to know the answer to this question

15) Ask him if he's seen the photoshop thread.

2 years ago it was 10k if you would wear a patch at a featured table or if you had a big stack.

[QUOTE=Dealer-Guy;19244318] 1. The way I read the question is that it is an entry into the main event. In the main a triple up and playing tight all day because of all the pros at your table will not put you in the 10bb area after the dinner break, even if you call a bunch of the standard preflop raises and fold.
2. Even a smaller event it would be difficult to be at 10bbs after the dinner break in this scenerio. The blinds are still only 500/1,000 and a triple up would put you at 45k.
3. I still believe the entry is a prime example of "artistic license" It is very well written but unbelievable.

Ya know, I understand the role that skepticism plays at both the pokertable and in these forums, but..C'MON! It was the first weekend event, a 1500 buck buyin, I did well at my first table, got shipped to the table of no return after the first break, and by level 9 or 10 (I forget which it was) my stack hadn't improved, therefore I was one of the shorter stacks at the table. How is that tilting you so hard?

The whole point of the thing from my POV was that you cannot give a pro more credit (see the 25off example) than you would a random donk. I just got back from competing in event 3, at my table over the 11 hours I was in it were maybe..5 pros I recognized, including Eric Liu, Adam Levy, Mike Gracz..and the cards weren't overly kind to any of them. When I got busted out (friggin AA in BB vs. a shortstacks 7To and an isolators allin push KQo) I didn't recognize a soul. Sure, long-term, these guys will outplay ya..but at any given table on any given night their advantage isn't as large, all other things being equal.

The threads a good entertaining read, with plenty of really funny posts in it, including the OPs.
I enjoyed it, till I saw your sour smart ass contribution, aren't you the brave one, calling him a liar from a distance.
Shame on you.

Glad I could ruin your day. My shame is worth it. HA HA HA.

I just want to make it clear, I did not attack "GaltsEngine", the poster named "jjjou812"
claimed he thought post # 48 was a fabrication and I questioned why it had to be false since GaltsEngine wasn't making any claim other than he got in the event and busted out.

While I am quite capable of smart ass posts, this one was not mine. My name is included in a couple of posts and listed as the poster of the flaming language, that was NOT me.

Okay, there is a bug in the quoting software, I just managed to do the same thing I was comlaining about.

Speaking of which, who is this dude ^ ? We played at the same table for a few hours and then I saw him later playing high stakes at the bellagio.

You did not ruin my day son.
Its possible if you try hard, to grow up, one day.

Dealer, my post was directed at this gentleman, not you, sorry if anyone misunderstood.

say hello, then if it's ivey ask for quick camera phone pic. Then you both pull out and lay your apples on the table to see whose is bigger.

If you find yourself at a TV table with somebody famous (e.g. Ivey) just go all-in with 54o. One of three things will happen:

1. He'll fold, and you'll have the videotape and bragging rights for bluffing him out of his shorts. Wouldn't you rather have the bragging rights than a measly $10,000?

2. He'll call and you'll crack his KK, see (1) above.

3. He'll call and beat you, but maybe you'll get lucky and the hand will wind up on the proverbial cutting-room floor.

I would actually prefer that to a hyper aggressive donk who has no clue how to play.

I had the latter and he made it almost impossible for me to play any hand I was not willing to go All-In with. He would put so many chips in pre flop and with even the thinest of draws that everyone was trapping and then reraising all-in with any hand. If I tried to limp or raise there was always someone behind me waiting to push in knowing the donk would call. I had to watch him suck out on a few people, build a great big stack, and shut me out as I was not getting the hands to go All-in wiht. Being in late position with him preflop raising guys would push all-in with hands as weak as AJ knowing it was ahead of his range. I could not do that knowing that AQ or AK or pairs behind me would call my push knowing how light people were pushing him.

Just got back from teh WSOP and I think the real question should be "What do you do if you end up with a little-known pro at your WSOP table?"

It's actually pretty easy if you're sitting with Phil Ivey or Phil Hellmuth to know what you are in for, and know that they aren't doing the normal donkish things. However, I've now had a lot of times where I played with someone for a little while and made a judgment on them based on a small sample of hands and/or their appearance, only to find out later that he was a pro.

An idiot maniac and a really good LAG can look pretty similar in a quick snapshot of an hour or so.

The moral of the story is "Don't assume everyone is a donk just because you haven't seen them on TV."

LOL??

We could also turn this moral around by saying "Don't assume everyone is good just because you have seen them on TV." :P

Mr. Fox: My mama wouldn't touch you with a 10 foot pole, so I can assure you that we are not related and you should not refer to me as son. In fact, given your luck with women, I doubt anyone has that title.

The question is that you save your money for the big event, the main event of the WSOP. Not the $65.00 tournament at Harrah's or a donkament where you can triple up and be in danger of blinded out (yes, that is what 10bbs stack late in a tournament means) after the dinner break. In any major event of any WPT tournament or the WSOP circuit, with the present blind structures, such a result is a mathmatical IMPOSSIBILTY.

So STFU, mind your own business, and grow up.

[x] Pros have leaks
[ ] Ivey has leaks

I got moved to a table in a WSOP this year in which I had Jason Mercier on my immediate right. No big deal, you just play the way you normally would. Just consider them a good player and play against them the way you would any normal good player. I actually ended up winning a big increase in chips from him. Don't be afraid and don't be like the one guy at my table who was saying "I think they are going to report that hand in Poker News Jason!"

Remember him mucking a winning flush at showdown for a million dollar pot?

Pros make mistakes too. They just make less mistakes than the rest of us.

Not that I'll be in this situation anytime soon, but I'd imagine playing a pot against Phil Ivey would result in me outlevelling myself to the point where I'd be so sure I was making the right move or wrong move and therefore doing the opposite but then thinking well maybe thats what he wants me to do so I'll do opposite untill I call with 3rd pair and he flips over top pair no kicker and thats that.

j/k

Ivey mucked the winning hand on the river. Is that a leak? Guess he was too good to look back at his cards.

If you afraid of these players, then you are wasting $10K playing. Either you aren't a good enough player, you are playing too scared, or both.

With Ivey, I would expect him to defend his BB light. Also expect him to bluff when the situation is good for it. Also, expect him not to make a lot of mistakes.

You want to profile players, pro and amateur. For example, you expect an older pro to play more "old school", with larger raises, maybe some limps, and tend to look for weakness but not 3-barrel with air. Whereas an Internet player is likely to make small raises, reraise light, play generally aggressive, and push light preflop. Similarly with amateur players, you can stereotype weak/tight players and players who play too many hands. Then go on from there and get more idea how each player plays.