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05-09-2018 , 02:03 PM
nice looks good!
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05-18-2018 , 07:58 PM
Plog, can you explain why for the WSOP DDS the 1pm $250 has S-points of 34, while the 4pm $200 has S-points of 43?
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05-20-2018 , 02:00 PM
The 1pm blinds/antes increase faster than the 4 pm.

At level 10 you are paying 7000 per orbit at 1pm and 4000 at 4pm. At level 18 its 95000 at 1pm and 50000 at 4pm. That's a 1357% increase at 1pm and a 1250% increase at 4pm.

Because of that, you effectively get more chips in the 4pm than you do in the 1pm. At 1pm you can play 13 levels before the Orbit Cost exceed its starting stack. At 4pm you get 14 levels before the Orbit Cost exceed the starting stack--that's 30 minutes more chips.
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05-22-2018 , 11:16 AM
I use this for most every tournament I consider entering. When I share your link, especially via text, I usually get a skeptical response, but that just makes it even better! Thanks man.
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05-22-2018 , 06:47 PM
http://www.wsop.com/pdfs/structuresh...1487_16748.pdf

the 2nd tourney, daily $200 is big blind ante. Some of the blinds levels are unique. Thinking about playing that one. One more week until WSOP.
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05-24-2018 , 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by spw
http://www.wsop.com/pdfs/structuresh...1487_16748.pdf

the 2nd tourney, daily $200 is big blind ante. Some of the blinds levels are unique. Thinking about playing that one. One more week until WSOP.
Can you elaborate and clue me in since i'm thinking about playing in a few of those DD?
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06-01-2018 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by spw
http://www.wsop.com/pdfs/structuresh...1487_16748.pdf

the 2nd tourney, daily $200 is big blind ante. Some of the blinds levels are unique. Thinking about playing that one. One more week until WSOP.
The 200 does appear to be superior to the 250 this year. The 250's will have larger fields so the prize pool is larger but the structure is indeed more rapid
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07-26-2018 , 12:13 PM
Hey Plog - I'm using your calculator and am wondering if I'm working it correctly to compare two tournaments. They have the same blind structure (and orbit costs), as well as the same level length, however, the starting chips are different. I'm coming out with identical "S" points of 29.

Level 6 Orbit Cost = 1,500
Level 10 Orbit Cost = 4,000
Level 14 Orbit Cost = 15,000
Level 18 Orbit Cost = 40,000

Big Blind Ante starts in Level 4

Tournament #1 has a 15,000 starting stack with 20 minute levels.
I'm seeing the 100% Minutes level being level 13 at 10,000 per orbit.
13x20= 260 100% Minutes
Total of 29 S Points

Tournament #2 has a 12,000 starting stack with 20 minute levels.
I'm seeing the 100% Minutes level also being level 13
Orbit costs and 100% Minute Levels being equal, I'm coming out with the same 29 Points.

Is that correct given the difference in starting stacks? (15K v 12K)
I'm just wondering if I'm doing it correctly.

Thanks
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07-26-2018 , 01:29 PM
No, you have not figured the 100% minutes correctly in Tournament #1.

If Level 14 Orbit Cost = 15000 and you start with 15000 chips then you should use 280 for that tournament's 100% Minutes.
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07-27-2018 , 01:54 PM
Thanks much, that helps.
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07-31-2018 , 02:13 AM
Just wanted to say thanks to Plog...this thread really helped me make my choices this summer
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08-21-2018 , 06:56 AM
I did the WSOPC events for this year

Someone should verify my work BUT

$1700 mains S-115
$1125 ring S-112
$600 ring S-80
$400 ring S-72
$250 ring S-68

Especially the $250 and $400 levels bring a TON more play compared to the this summers Vegas tourneys. Doubling the starting chips helped alot. I vaguely remember calculating the S points on those levels last year and I "remember" them being in the late 40s- low 60s
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08-21-2018 , 07:16 AM
I took a shot at the Circuit $400 Ring events the other day too. Looks like we are close in our attempts.

There are six structure sheets for the $400 Ring Events and the way it shook out when I did it is as follows:

1-Day: 76
2-Day Re-Entry: 76
1-Day Turbo: 51
2-Day: 76
2-Day Monster Stack: 88
2-Day Big Blind Ante: 74


Here’s how I came up with 76 for the standard non-BBA $400 Tournaments:

Level 6 Orbit Cost: 950
Level 10 Orbit Cost: 2,200
Level 14 Orbit Cost: 6,000
Level 18 Orbit Cost: 12,500

Last Level where starting chips (15K), are greater than Orbit Level: 18

18 x 30 minute levels: 540

100% Minutes: 540
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09-23-2018 , 10:39 PM
I read through your page and this post, couldn't find an answer. Pardon me if it is a dumb question.

How do you calculate 100% minutes if the level length changes? In my example the 100% minutes level in 17, but that is the first level at 30 minutes. Each prior level was 20 minutes. Should I just use 30*17? Average all levels together?
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09-24-2018 , 10:23 AM
You add them up. Determine the last level where the orbit cost is less than or equal to the starting stack. Then add up all the minutes you can play.

100%Minutes = (16*20) + 30 = 350
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09-24-2018 , 10:20 PM
I see that is was a stupid question! Now I understand what 100% minutes means though. Thanks!
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09-26-2018 , 01:45 PM
Hey Plog
Is the calculator on the website down?
I’ve tried entering some data and after clicking ‘calculate’ nothing’s happening.
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09-26-2018 , 02:09 PM
Yes it was. Should be up now. Thanks for letting me know.
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09-26-2018 , 03:24 PM
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Yes it was. Should be up now. Thanks for letting me know.


Thanks!
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05-03-2019 , 04:15 AM
just happened upon this calculator for the first time, $1100 MSPT with a score of 65 yikes. Sweet site man thanks, going to vegas this summer and will be using this.
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05-03-2019 , 01:07 PM
For which tourney? The Venetian MSPT $1100 has a score of 96.
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05-03-2019 , 02:55 PM
I couldn't find structures on the site for later tournies so I just did the one for this week in Deadwood, SD. https://msptpoker.com/eventstructure/?eventID=239
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05-03-2019 , 03:35 PM
Did you put 15k or 20k as start stack? They have a $10 dealer addon for 5k chips, so it is effectively 20k start stack.
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05-03-2019 , 04:35 PM
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I couldn't find structures on the site for later tournies so I just did the one for this week in Deadwood, SD. https://msptpoker.com/eventstructure/?eventID=239
With one exception, all the Venetion structures are here...

https://www.venetian.com/casino/poke...scps-2019.html
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05-03-2019 , 06:11 PM
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Did you put 15k or 20k as start stack? They have a $10 dealer addon for 5k chips, so it is effectively 20k start stack.
I did 15k, why are obnoxiously cheap addons still a thing?
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