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Old 07-02-2020, 01:33 PM   #26
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Yea, I've come around to believe that this is not happening. Timeline is too narrow. Too many possible setbacks, negatives, and liabilities. At this point I just hope we're good for summer 2021.
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Old 07-02-2020, 02:28 PM   #27
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I donít think it happens in the fall. If it does though and they can throw out some solid mtts with lower buy ins (300-1k), Iíll def consider and they have some other casinos like Venetian/aria/etc running series Iíll def go. Travel
Is cheap now so flying isnít too pricey.

I donít think it happens and if it does, they will have the main and a few mtts. Not a great schedule most likely.
Flying in the fall will be a lot more expensive, and CET won't announce until about a month before it starts.

Don't believe the cv numbers all that much. There's a huge amount of fraud going on to bilk the govt out of coronabucks. Story I heard this morning is 90+ year old woman fell and broker her hip, she was near death when they found her, didn't last long in the hospital. When relatives got the death certificate, the listed cause of death was the cv.
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Old 07-02-2020, 04:41 PM   #28
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Don't believe the cv numbers all that much. There's a huge amount of fraud going on to bilk the govt out of coronabucks. .
If anything, numbers are probably under-reported.

One random story that fits your narrative isn't evidence of anything.
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Old 07-02-2020, 07:00 PM   #29
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One random story that fits your narrative isn't evidence of anything.
You're giving too much credit, the story didn't even have a citation and until I see one I don't even believe it happened.
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Old 07-02-2020, 11:45 PM   #30
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There have been lots more than just one.
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Old 07-03-2020, 07:41 AM   #31
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https://www.barrons.com/articles/pfi...le-51593695326

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“Given Pfizer’s experience with running large vaccine trials, the companies believe they can enroll the pivotal trial in four weeks and have data in the late August/early September ahead of a potential regulatory filing in October,” Mizuho analyst Vamil Divan wrote in a note on Wednesday.
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Old 07-03-2020, 09:04 AM   #32
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Flying in the fall will be a lot more expensive, and CET won't announce until about a month before it starts.

Don't believe the cv numbers all that much. There's a huge amount of fraud going on to bilk the govt out of coronabucks. Story I heard this morning is 90+ year old woman fell and broker her hip, she was near death when they found her, didn't last long in the hospital. When relatives got the death certificate, the listed cause of death was the cv.
Story of the fraud you heard from a TV news or from Rumor Mill ?
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Old 07-03-2020, 10:14 AM   #33
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I will say that I had a personal friend of mine get drunk and fall over a couch. He was 60+ and cracked a rib that pierced his lung and died a couple days later. They tried to put covid19 on his death certificate.

After that I looked into it and they are pretty lax with confirmations when they add someone to the death toll. Confirmed cases are confirmed, deaths are not. It's all there in the fine print for anyone that wants to look.

Regardless of the number inflated or deflated, I hope they run the series and I will go.
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Old 07-03-2020, 12:55 PM   #34
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I will say that I had a personal friend of mine get drunk and fall over a couch. He was 60+ and cracked a rib that pierced his lung and died a couple days later. They tried to put covid19 on his death certificate.

After that I looked into it and they are pretty lax with confirmations when they add someone to the death toll. Confirmed cases are confirmed, deaths are not. It's all there in the fine print for anyone that wants to look.

Regardless of the number inflated or deflated, I hope they run the series and I will go.
I am not trying to protect someone if they try to commit fraud. Like Hospitals, Doctors, Coroners etc. But i would stay away from hear say stories.

In your statement you said “ They tried to put covid19 on his death certificate. “. Who stopped them ? How did you get the story ?
I am not on a mission to stop fake stories. But if they are valid I want to know about it.
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* I will go to WSOP if and when everything goes back to normal. Like coronavirus magically disappears, proven to be a hoax, or reliable vaccine available. I also miss WSOP.
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Old 07-04-2020, 01:47 PM   #35
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we cant even control the 1st wave, so many incompetent people in government and general population that doesnít want to wear masks.
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Old 07-04-2020, 02:12 PM   #36
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we cant even control the 1st wave, so many incompetent people in government and general population that doesn’t want to wear masks.
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You can’t see Virus. But Virus will find anyone within its range or lifeline without discrimination of Race,Color of skin,political affiliation or language you speak if you don’t protect yourself.
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Old 07-15-2020, 09:08 PM   #37
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AstraZeneca's vaccine is in phase 3 trials already. It's the last trial before applying for approval.

https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news...n-thursday-itv
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Old 07-18-2020, 12:58 PM   #38
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The only indication of a second wave is predictions made by people that were dead wrong about everything so far. I wish those people would publish their football picks.

Australia is going through their fall right now. No second wave.
This post didnt age well. I wonder who it is that you think has been ďright all alongĒ because my guess is that you were mocking anyone who back in March predicted exactly what weíve seen in this country.
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Old 07-18-2020, 05:41 PM   #39
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What's the current line on 2021 WSOP taking place in June as usual?
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Old 07-18-2020, 06:40 PM   #40
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I want to believe that it will happen, but May is only 10 months away now. We've already been living with the virus for 4+ months here in the USA and things have only gotten worse. That doesn't bode well for next summer.

They may be better off pushing it back into Fall 2021. By then maybe a combination of herd immunity and vaccines makes it possible for the WSOP to hold a big live series without too much risk of blowback.

Another option that I haven't heard mentioned is holding it abroad. Europe has a much better handle on Corona than we do here in the USA. They could have a venue over there or in Canada host it and require screenings for any visiting American players.
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Old 07-20-2020, 07:33 PM   #41
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-420 No
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Old 07-21-2020, 06:46 PM   #42
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Wow, that's a ton of juice.
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Old 07-21-2020, 06:58 PM   #43
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-135 yes
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Old 07-22-2020, 04:45 PM   #44
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Two different favorites. One of y'all be fibbin'.
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Old 07-23-2020, 12:50 PM   #45
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The only indication of a second wave is predictions made by people that were dead wrong about everything so far. I wish those people would publish their football picks.
Well there won't be a second wave until the first wave is done. Who exactly has been dead wrong? Was it the guy who said it would just go away?
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Old 07-23-2020, 05:05 PM   #46
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Two different favorites. One of y'all be fibbin'.
Well I mean..

-420 No
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Seriously?! This guy is putting the line at -420 that the series won't run as usual in 2021? That's like 10.5 months away.
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Old 07-28-2020, 02:50 PM   #47
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The only indication of a second wave is predictions made by people that were dead wrong about everything so far. I wish those people would publish their football picks.

Australia is going through their fall right now. No second wave.
Good call.
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Old 07-29-2020, 05:47 AM   #48
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My track record is still probably better than Fauci's.
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Old 07-29-2020, 04:14 PM   #49
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Every Fox News viewer knows that the virus is just a liberal hoax that can be easily cured by pounding a couple gallons of bleach and getting a good night's sleep. Dear Leader Trump would never lie to us.
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Every Fox News viewer knows that the virus is just a liberal hoax that can be easily cured by pounding a couple gallons of bleach and getting a good night's sleep. Dear Leader Trump would never lie to us.
Clearly there is a camp of people who honestly believe Covid-19 is a hoax or a means of controlling people. Then, there is another camp - let's call them the 'in-between' camp. This camp believes the Covid pandemic is real and potentially dangerous to a lot of people, but at the same time, realizes there are many opportunists out there among the ranks of politicians at all levels of government who will use the pandemic to sway large blocs of people for political gain. This camp believes the pandemic response and lethality of the virus is blown out of proportion relative to the case mortality rate. Covid is no Ebola, Hanta Virus, or Small Pox. There are approximately 4,700,000 confirmed cases of Covid-19 and about 150,000 deaths. If 4,700,000 were the total number of cases among the entire population of Americans, the mortality rate is around 3.19%. However, many scientists estimate the number of infected Americans could be as much as 10x higher > 47,000,000. At a conservative estimate of 4x higher, that's 18.8 million cases with 150,000 deaths, or a mortality rate of 0.798% or about 1 in 1,250 people. Ebola has a mortality rate between 50.0% and 71.0% vs 0.798% for Covid.
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