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05-22-2023 , 04:24 PM

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Poker?IDontKnowHer

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Aria structures are posted below the schedule

https://aria.mgmresorts.com/en/casino/poker.html

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05-24-2023 , 02:00 AM

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the pleasure

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whats vig% mean

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05-24-2023 , 01:05 PM

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plog

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Working on Aria and Orleans now.

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whats vig% mean

Amount of buy-in not going to the prize pool. The lower the better:

$500 buy in = $425 to prize pool + $50 buy-in fee + $25 to staff = $75 / $500 = 15%

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05-24-2023 , 09:53 PM

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3Kinks

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Originally Posted by sos41

What do you think it would take for rooms to provide s points for each event on their structure sheets? Also has anyone tried to determine tournament length based upon S points. Sometimes you may want to finish a daily in 6 or so hours (Southpoint) vs 10 to 12 (Wynn). As I think about it, that would be good info on the structure sheet also especially for the local dailies where they have a history to reference.

plog, thank you for providing this. Find it very useful in evaluating tourneys that align with my play,... slow and sloppy!

Don't see rooms providing this anytime soon as it would voluntarily expose the weaknesses of their structures. Have noticed a recent trend towards providing larger starting stacks, but changing the blind structure to essentially nullify the "perceived" advantage of having the bigger stack. Also, rooms are leaving the entry, vig and starting stacks untouched, but dramatically changing the blind structure to cut the S-factor dramatically. Seen make these changes cutting their S-factors by over 1/3!

3K's

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05-25-2023 , 02:04 PM

#30

plog

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Aria and Orleans are now up on my site. And I finished my comparison page which will give you a basis of comparison to decide what a "good" tournament is this year in Vegas:

https://www.rainbowspuppiessunshine....c/analysis.php

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05-25-2023 , 02:18 PM

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RealMcCoy

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Originally Posted by plog

+1 TYVM

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05-25-2023 , 10:59 PM

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Jkpoker10

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Originally Posted by RealMcCoy

+1 TYVM

Yea thanks a lot for this dude! Such a great tool when planning a schedule. I obviously love “all the play” so will be comparing tournaments using this tool! Sadly only around for a week at the start and have the TOC WSOP event mid week. Best of luck to everyone playing. Let’s get some 2+2 binks!

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05-26-2023 , 07:14 AM

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PLOG has given so valuable gift to 2+2 community that is useful years after years . Unbelievable contribution to the 2+2 and poker communities.

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05-26-2023 , 08:21 AM

#34

Poker?IDontKnowHer

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Awesome, thanks!

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05-26-2023 , 01:52 PM

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It appears that there is an error on the PLOG tournament schedule, regarding MGM event #40, which has flight B scheduled for Wed 6/28 at 10:00am. According to MGM schedule, flight 40B is Tues 6/27 at 6pm, while day 2 of that event resumes wed 6/28 at 10am.

https://pokeratlas-images-production...Tdp8T0-ySQ7fbw

https://www.rainbowspuppiessunshine....ournaments.php

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05-26-2023 , 07:55 PM

#36

Black Aces 518

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Hi Plog!

Looks like the $1100 Ultimate Stack tourney for Venetian (for example the one on June 26) have an error. They show up as 23 S-points, which I though was impossibly low, it looks to me like it should be 66 instead?

Thx so much for all you do!

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05-26-2023 , 10:38 PM

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plog

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Thanks for the corrections.

MGM #40B - fixed

Venetian Ultimate Stack - fixed 7 ultimate stack tournaments. New S-Points is 69

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05-28-2023 , 12:48 PM

#38

aphead

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plog... I just emailed a structure sheet to you for the PLON Ladies Event on June 26th at Resorts World.

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05-30-2023 , 01:06 AM

#39

the pleasure

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Originally Posted by plog

Working on Aria and Orleans now.

Amount of buy-in not going to the prize pool. The lower the better:

$500 buy in = $425 to prize pool + $50 buy-in fee + $25 to staff = $75 / $500 = 15%

than kyou for your work as always plog

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03-09-2024 , 06:39 PM

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riverph7

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Thx PLOG

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04-17-2024 , 11:31 AM

#41

plog

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So far I only have WSOP and Venetian structures. If anyone has links to other series, please post them in this thread as the become available.

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04-17-2024 , 01:04 PM

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Mr Rick

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So awesome. Thanks!

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04-19-2024 , 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by plog

So far I only have WSOP and Venetian structures. If anyone has links to other series, please post them in this thread as the become available.

Here’s a link I found.

https://poker-schedule.com/tournaments

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04-19-2024 , 03:42 PM

#44

tomshooter

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Just want to say you're doing an awesome job. It's my go to every time I go to the WSOP since I am usually knocked out on day one and looking for something else to play, lol. If I could make one suggestion it would be to add a column for the guarantee should the tournament have one. I always have to look it up for my group once I dump your file into Excel and I figure if you have the structure, you will also have any guarantees. Thanks.

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