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Quantum tourney at Hustler Grand Slam structure Quantum tourney at Hustler Grand Slam structure

07-26-2018 , 12:12 AM
I was curious if the structure for this event is similar to other quantum tournaments at other venues. Here is the structure: http://www.hustlercasino.com/wp-cont...SOP_Event7.pdf

Here are the 2 buyin levels:
$375 is $325 towards the buy-in, $35 entry fee, $15 service charge. $2,900 is $2,700 towards the buy-in, $200 entry fee.

so, for $325 in the prize pool, you get 20,000 chips, or 61.5 chips per $1.
for $2700 in the prize pool, you get 250,000 chips, or 92.6 chips per $1.

This seems really off to me, that the day 2 entries get 50% more chips per dollar than the day 1 entries. Is this some sort of fluke in this one event, or is this typical of all the quantum events? If it is typical, then clearly it is pretty hugely -EV to ever enter day 1 of these events.

If you are there or going there, I'm also curious if they are offering satellites into this event? Pretty funny if you can pay something like $320-340 with 1 in 10 winning a $2900 seat directly into day 2. Obviously that's a way better deal than entering day 1 and paying $375 for effectively the same thing.

Thanks, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)
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07-26-2018 , 09:23 AM
Agree with your point, just have the need to post--screw the Hustler for doing this--they hid a 3% fee in the fine print:

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3% of the prize pool will be withheld for administrative fees.
So it seems shady to say that $325/$2700 is going to the prize pool, when $9.75/$81 of it is being taken as a fee. Has no bearing on your conclusion, just hate when casinos pull this BS.
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07-27-2018 , 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Greg (FossilMan)
If you are there or going there, I'm also curious if they are offering satellites into this event? Pretty funny if you can pay something like $320-340 with 1 in 10 winning a $2900 seat directly into day 2. Obviously that's a way better deal than entering day 1 and paying $375 for effectively the same thing.

Thanks, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)
You could sorta look at a day 1 entry as a satellite, the main differences being that you would get a better structure than a typical satellite and the number of chips you have going into day 2 is completely unknown.

If it's multiple entry, it might be best to enter day 1 and if you bust or your stack is small, enter day 2.

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Originally Posted by plog
Agree with your point, just have the need to post--screw the Hustler for doing this--they hid a 3% fee in the fine print:



So it seems shady to say that $325/$2700 is going to the prize pool, when $9.75/$81 of it is being taken as a fee. Has no bearing on your conclusion, just hate when casinos pull this BS.
So Greg shouldn't feel like he has to tip when he wins. When he gets the sour face from the td, he can explain why.
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07-27-2018 , 10:20 AM
Well its an administrative fee. So he shouldn't feel obligated to tip those noble MBA and CPA folks who are laser focused on the bottom line player happiness.
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07-27-2018 , 11:06 AM
Not a fan of Quantum.

It favors pro players to the detriment of amateurs.
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