Dodgy in terms of not super safe (especially with cash in pocket) or in a different way?

Might as well Uber a bit

You're on the sidewalk for a stretch by a busy road and then there's a stretch where you have to take this pedestrian walkway over a highway, which is not a place you want to be cornered by sketchy street people. I don't think it's super unsafe, but IMO it's not a walk you want to be doing 2x+ daily.

Not to mention it will be 100+ during the day.

Caesars used to run a free shuttle from Rio but that ended 3 or 4 years ago.

You can also walk from the Rio out the back way. Go down by where the WSOP used to be, walk north across the lot to Twain. East under I-15, you're back by Caesars parking garages. In the back side of Caesars, out the front, across and down the street and you're there.

Neither walking option is terrible IMO, but I'm a walker, and generally was going earlier in the AM or evening.

Safe is a relative word. And people are almost always safe, until they aren’t. I used to make that walk a few times a week. Never had a problem. But one never knows.

As for cab/Uber, be aware the whole traffic situation in the LVB/Flamingo intersection is a total crapshoot with the construction. One day the traffic is fine. The next it’s a **** show. You might want to use google maps or some other app to check the traffic prior to choosing a destination. Ideally, you should try and get dropped off at Horseshoe, since that is most direct from Rio. But if that would be difficult, other options might be the side entrance of Bellagio, the back of Caesars (as another poster mentioned), or even something like PH. All of these locations would put you within a ~5 minute walk from Horseshoe/Paris.

Thanks for the help guys.

I also looked online and apparently there is a 202 bus that runs pretty much to the horseshoe.

6 min walk -> bus -> 1 min walk. $2 fare. Might be a good option. Will probably mix a bit and see which one fits best

I walked from the Gold Coast to mid Strip a few years ago in the heat of the day. The only part that made me feel uncomfortable was on the walkway overpass crossing the freeway. I didn't have any interactions with vagrants and sketchy looking people, or feel implicitly threatened, but felt vulnerable to the possibility of being harassed or victimized. It may or may not have been unsafe, but definitely was unpleasant, dirty, smelly and depressing. I walked very fast, minding my own business with a New York City direct stare ahead. I personally would not walk that route again, unless I had a male friend or 2 for company, and would never do it at night.

I like to walk, and am ok for a couple of miles even in extreme heat, so up and down the strip, or nearby is fine. Having to cross over or under freeways (especially under) is the deal killer for me. This is true in any city. Unsavory elements tend to lurk underneath bridges on the outskirts of downtown and resort areas. So, while staying at Horseshoe, I'll walk to most places, but when I want to go to off strip casinos like Orleans and Gold Coast, I'll get a ride.

Vegas has been cleaned up a lot since my last visit two years ago. On my trip in 2021 there were large groups of homeless on the strip but these were different than normal. They were aggressive in asking for money, would mock you and I never felt completely safe just South of the Venetian or on the pedestrian overpasses. This trip, police or security were everywhere. Hardly any homeless on the overpasses and very few on the strip. It was probably a 90% reduction from 2021. It also seemed cleaner in general.

At night you're still walking in very dark places. I would get a Streamlight or some other retina-melting flashlight.

That's a 20 minute walk for me from back of Caesars to near the Horseshoe tourney space, maybe more. I'm a slower than avg walker tho, jacked up back.

BTW, although this is not the "non-WSOP" thread, I think it bears mentioning - Orleans is killing it this year. That space that had all those vp/slots between the poker room and the food court is all poker tables. Their Main has over 3400 players!

F Y I the seniors deepstack todya is moved from this morning to tomorrow, Thursday.

The cage worker says the normal daily deep at 1 is on for today.

Question: will the Main Event be played 10-handed on Day 1? Day 2? I was there last week for the $500 Freezeout and the Seniors and those were played 10-handed on Day 1, but went to 9-handed for Day 2 and on. I'll be playing the Main for the first time next week, and am curious as to whether this same pattern will be followed or not.

That would be an abomination, but I wouldn’t put it past them. Playing so many events, even at the $1500 level, 10-handed has been the one major thing I hate about this year’s WSOP. The sad thing is, they have reserved space/dealers for other events while playing 10-handed in their featured events. It’s a pure cash grab. Of course, the WSOP is not immune to cash grabs, but this is a really annoying one and a horrible precedent. I know people have complained, but it needs to keep up. 10-handed play should only be used in the most rare and special circumstances, not because they can.

How many Day 1's are there? The $600 Deepstack was "sold out" today to the point they had alternates with a 2 hour wait to get in, and that's with the dailies and satty's canceled to use their tables. That's pretty big for a non-Big Fifty type of event. It seems like there have been an underestimated number of people that want to play in these things.

The $600 DSC only has one starting flight. And at the beginning of it, it looked like they were only using about 2/3 of their available space. The horseshoe only had one section being used. Plus part of a section in the CBS event center. I’m not really sure what they were reserving the rest of the tables for. But it’s been a pattern this year whereby the WSOP has not used all the space they have available to make the high attendance events run smoother. Maybe they’re having some sort of dealer availability issues.

I'd bet a lot of the empty tables at the start were being held for events starting later in the day. The $1,500 PLO Hi/Lo 8 or Better had 1,125 entries yesterday (actually down a little from 2022, one of the very few events that isn't up significantly), plus there were a couple of Day 2 restarts later as well. They ended up cancelling several of the dailies yesterday, so it seems like they were using all the space and dealers they could. When I was there last week for the Seniors the Horseshoe was fully packed, with entries for the 1:00 PM daily deepstack limited because they couldn't break enough Seniors tournament tables to make space for everyone.

It could well be that they underestimated the demand for a Wednesday tournament with no natural lead-in or follow-on. Last year this event was on a Monday, the day after the $500 Salute to Warriors, meaning plenty of low-stakes players could combine those events into a 4-day weekend trip. This year it's kind of on an island mid-week, with the $1K Super Seniors and the $1K Super Turbo Bounty the largest tournaments before and after it. That it still drew over 4,000 entries (and maybe could have had more, who knows how many players may have bailed and decided to play a tournament somewhere else) seems pretty incredible.

I was over at the Horseshoe yesterday afternoon and there were warm bodies in every seat. They were NOT running megas or Daily Deepstacks.

They shouldn’t be running a day one for an event which will draw 1000+ entries on the same day as a low-buy-in event which will easily draw 5k-8k if left to it’s own devices. This is where the chaos comes from.

I understand the desire to have more low buy-in events, but they don’t have the capacity to run them all well. I felt like the gladiator went off very well for the challenges it brought. The DSC… not so much.

They definitely would have had at least one more, I busted not that long after the first break of the DSC, 100% would have re-entered, but the line to get a new table draw looked 1000 deep and was being quoted "3 hours" as the wait to get back in. Nope.

But it's been bonkers everywhere, deep alternate lists both at Venetian and Aria, it's been very frustrating if you bust early, can't re-enter or hop in something else without hour+ wiat.

Large turnout everywhere. I think it still goes back to COVID pent-up demand.

But still, that doesn’t mean you need to schedule multiple large-field starting events in one day.

The Venetian is a special case this year because they are remodeling their Sports Book which meant they had to remove 27 tables outside the poker room so instead of the 62 they had in years before they have only 35 this year.

The Aria has had nasty alternate lists for many years dating well before Covid.

The Wynn used to have that problem but about 5 years ago they moved their tournament area adjacent to their poker room so they would have more tables. They still sometimes have alternate lists but nowhere near as bad as it was before.

Well they definitely seem to be having dealer issues. I just saw the update that they just finally started the Colossus in Horseshoe after a two hour delay waiting for dealers. Yikes.

I left this morning and was disappointed in the poor logistics and management of the series. I know it’s a large undertaking with a lot of variables but some things were clearly just not thought out well.

Specifically, the registration process is a bit of a disaster. For one of the dailies, they limited registration to one window and only signed people up as seats became available. One of the ladies events was running and all the tables were full so they literally just had people standing in line for a couple hours waiting for a physical chair to sit in.

But the worst part of it all was they didn’t tell anyone what was taking so long. They didn’t even tell people what line to be in. They had three at one point - one for any tournament other than the daily, one for just the daily, and the diamond. I’m Diamond so I hopped in that one and was told they weren’t registering for the daily there and I had to get in the couple hours long wait line. If not for me relaying that information to some others in line, nobody would have known.

So some people stood in the other long line for an hour only to get to the front to register for the daily and told they would have to get in the two hour line for that. No signs up, no employee directing people, nothing.

Of all the wheels in motion at a series like this, you would think they’d give more attention to the one where they actually collect money from patrons. It was a terrible experience.

I feel the pain I think. I was there a week prior. Played the MonsterStack, Seniors and Millionaire Maker. For all three I made sure to register during off peak hours and avoid any late registration issues and lines.

During the off days or day Bs of these I assumed the 1 PM Daily DeepStacks would be a no-go or a complete headache.

Instead I hit Golden Nugget for a Daily or waited for the 8 PM WSOP Daily DeepStack.

Not saying you did this - but just an FYI for others or future first timers: don’t plan your trip on/around the $250 1 PM WSOP Daily as your core event(s)