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07-24-2022 , 05:10 AM
WORLD SERIES OF POKER 2022-2023 CIRCUIT TOUR SCHEDULE doesn’t have anything planned for NJ,Metro NY, CT,PA,MA and MD ! ( I think 30 to 40% of USA’s Poker Players resides in these states)

There is only one stop in Northeast (Turning Stone Resort Casino Verona, NY)

What could be the reason !!

I am guessing these are not profitable markets.

Last edited by riverph7; 07-24-2022 at 05:21 AM.
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07-24-2022 , 07:38 AM
Hard to imagine they’re less profitable in the northeast than some of the random places they have stops. The demand in the region is significant.

In any case, if I had to guess it’s because most of the venues in the northeast are not Caesars and so when the WSOP makes a stop somewhere, a deal has to be made between them and a competing casino corporation/entity. And I’m guessing the WSOP drives a hard bargain. You have to remember, in most of these places, the WSOP provides little besides marketing and brand recognitions and takes as sizeable cut. It’s still the venue which handles the logistics and runs the show. And it’s not like northeast venues have been rushing to get back into the tournament poker game after the pandemic.
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07-24-2022 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by riverph7
WORLD SERIES OF POKER 2022-2023 CIRCUIT TOUR SCHEDULE doesn’t have anything planned for NJ,Metro NY, CT,PA,MA and MD ! ( I think 30 to 40% of USA’s Poker Players resides in these states)

There is only one stop in Northeast (Turning Stone Resort Casino Verona, NY)

What could be the reason !!

I am guessing these are not profitable markets.
Lack of dealers.

WSOP circuit had been in Foxwoods for years prior to the pandemic. Similarly in Harrahs in Atlantic City.

Foxwoods has stopped doing their MegaStax series (usually two weeks and three weekends) because they can't get dealers. They recently put out an ad and got 2 dealer applications.

I'm guessing most east coast dealers during the pandemic moved to Vegas or Florida or changed jobs.
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07-24-2022 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Rick
Lack of dealers.

WSOP circuit had been in Foxwoods for years prior to the pandemic. Similarly in Harrahs in Atlantic City.

Foxwoods has stopped doing their MegaStax series (usually two weeks and three weekends) because they can't get dealers. They recently put out an ad and got 2 dealer applications.

I'm guessing most east coast dealers during the pandemic moved to Vegas or Florida or changed jobs.
IMHO :
After very successful 2 WSOP ( 2021,2022) , many many Florida’s overwhelming events not able to get dealers is a lame excuse
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07-24-2022 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by riverph7;57760en251
IMHO :
After very successful 2 WSOP ( 2021,2022) , many many Florida’s overwhelming events not able to get dealers is a lame excuse
You can call it a lame excuse but many of Foxwoods dealers left. They can't dealers right now and have been trying. They are preferring to run their cash games than to stop them to run tournamts

I have no idea about why Atlantic City can't get dealers. But I suspect that is the problem especially for the Borgota which used to run the largest tournaments on the east coast and now is basically running none.
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07-24-2022 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by riverph7
IMHO :
After very successful 2 WSOP ( 2021,2022) , many many Florida’s overwhelming events not able to get dealers is a lame excuse
You also have to remember it takes a lot of dealers to run a large series. If a venue already has a lot of dealers, this can be done. But if they don’t have a lot of dealers (most likely because they don’t have much of a tournament offering at this time), then it’s not so easy to get them on a short term basis.
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07-25-2022 , 07:37 AM
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You also have to remember it takes a lot of dealers to run a large series. If a venue already has a lot of dealers, this can be done. But if they don’t have a lot of dealers (most likely because they don’t have much of a tournament offering at this time), then it’s not so easy to get them on a short term basis.
I was talking to many dealers during the WSOP. Most of them branding themselves as traveling dealers. They said they travel to events to events . Most dealers told me they were surprised when they learned Borgata stopped the tournaments. As per most of them Borgata was one of the most popular stop among traveling dealers!!

Last edited by riverph7; 07-25-2022 at 07:44 AM.
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07-25-2022 , 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by riverph7
I was talking to many dealers during the WSOP. Most of them branding themselves as traveling dealers. They said they travel to events to events . Most dealers told me they were surprised when they learned Borgata stopped the tournaments. As per most of them Borgata was one of the most popular stop among traveling dealers!!
The Borgota ran one tournament recently (like a couple of months ago) and was set up to handle 300 entries (if I remember correctly). So many people showed up that they told people on the line that they wouldn't likely be able to play. So people near the front of the line started selling their place on line. Somebody told me that over 600 people didn't get to play.

I hope the Borgota goes back to scheduling their large tournaments again. Its also good to know that they were getting a lot of traveling dealers for their large events. I think it makes the chances that they will go back to their tournament series a lot better.

Foxwoods on the other hand never hired travelling dealers to my knowledge. I doubt Parx did either.
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08-01-2022 , 07:09 PM
Why Borgata NJ, Parx PA and Foxwoods CT are not organizing poker tournaments is a burning �� question and not being answered with any logics .

But when king of poker tournaments WSOP decide to stay away from announcing any circuit tournaments events in NJ and PA is mind boggling !!
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08-12-2022 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by riverph7
Why Borgata NJ, Parx PA and Foxwoods CT are not organizing poker tournaments is a burning �� question and not being answered with any logics .

But when king of poker tournaments WSOP decide to stay away from announcing any circuit tournaments events in NJ and PA is mind boggling !!
I don’t blame them. Why would you have a series when it seems like AC and Foxwoods have no interest in runnning big mtts.

Am I crazy or does it look bad for mtt live poker in the NE? I don’t understand why they aren’t running mtts. If you don’t have enough dealers- just say in your promo sheet- we may need to shut down entries if we run into staffing problems. It just doesn’t make sense to me when most live series are doing very well now.

Idk, I looked forward to going to borgata, parx, Foxwoods in the past but it just doesn’t seem like they care to offer solid mtts. I’m sure they will be back in 2+ years but it’s just shocking when Covid is basically over in my book. Everyone that wants to be is vaccinated. No risk Mates.
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08-13-2022 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by riverph7
Why Borgata NJ, Parx PA and Foxwoods CT are not organizing poker tournaments is a burning �� question and not being answered with any logics .

But when king of poker tournaments WSOP decide to stay away from announcing any circuit tournaments events in NJ and PA is mind boggling !!
I just checked online and the Borgota has tournaments scheduled for Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday 11am in August moving forward. Also 6pm on Wed and Thurs.

I guess they are doing what Foxwoods is doing in that they don't want to interrupt their cash games on Saturday.

Not sure this is going to mean they will be having their big tournament series anytime soon.
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08-31-2022 , 11:42 AM
It's not all gloom and doom.

Philly Live always runs a monthly $450-$600 $100k-$150k GTD multiday event. Usually at least one $500 bounty per month. And they've recently run small series which have included $1100 main events.

Rivers/Sugarhouse just had a $560 that got over 800 entrants.

Borgata tournaments run like half the days of the month.

Maryland Live always have good stuff including monthly $1100 and a monthly $450 that's tantamount to the Philly Live event. And they just ran a small series of their own.
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07-07-2023 , 09:44 AM
Just came back from WSOP. Played 5-6 small buy-ins and dailies.

Tournament poker is alive and at its best

Talked to many traveling poker dealers.

All has same questions and feelings.

Why north-east not planning any tournaments series ?

Borgata and Parx is on every ones mind !!

Most of the dealers said , there are plenty of traveling dealers waiting and available.

It has been 4 years since a major series planned in Atlantic City and Parx !! That also includes No WSOP Circuits !!

Poker Market in north east so uncultivated and ignored for unknown reasons!!

May be a missing link is a Talented Poker Room manager who is capable of managing a large Poker series ?

We miss Tab Duchateau so much !!!!

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07-07-2023 , 09:53 AM
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07-07-2023 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by riverph7
Just came back from WSOP. Played 5-6 small buy-ins and dailies.

Tournament poker is alive and at its best

Talked to many traveling poker dealers.

All has same questions and feelings.

Why north-east not planning any tournaments series ?

Borgata and Parx is on every ones mind !!

Most of the dealers said , there are plenty of traveling dealers waiting and available.

It has been 4 years since a major series planned in Atlantic City and Parx !! That also includes No WSOP Circuits !!

Poker Market in north east so uncultivated and ignored for unknown reasons!!

May be a missing link is a Talented Poker Room manager who is capable of managing a large Poker series ?

We miss Tab Duchateau so much !!!!
Fingers crossed for Encore. They’re just dipping their toes back in the tournament game but the room may be expanding across the street at some point. If that happens, given Wynn’s relationship with the WPT, I don’t see why multiple major series couldn’t happen there.
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07-07-2023 , 08:48 PM

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07-08-2023 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by riverph7
Just came back from WSOP. Played 5-6 small buy-ins and dailies.

Tournament poker is alive and at its best

Talked to many traveling poker dealers.

All has same questions and feelings.

Why north-east not planning any tournaments series ?

Borgata and Parx is on every ones mind !!

Most of the dealers said , there are plenty of traveling dealers waiting and available.

It has been 4 years since a major series planned in Atlantic City and Parx !! That also includes No WSOP Circuits !!

Poker Market in north east so uncultivated and ignored for unknown reasons!!

May be a missing link is a Talented Poker Room manager who is capable of managing a large Poker series ?

We miss Tab Duchateau so much !!!!
Parx and Foxwoods never used traveling dealers before so I think that is not in their game plan.

The Borgota I have no idea. I heard their TD left. But its probably a huge loss of dealers as well. I would guess of all the casinos Borgota would be most willing to have travelling dealers but doing it for the first time is probably challenging...
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07-17-2023 , 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BobbyPeru
Wake up Borgata & Parx !

Hire some talented and experienced Tournament Director.

Big poker tournament series being planned everywhere in USA.

July 26-Aug 8. 1 Million GTD series Seminole Hard-rock Fl.

Aug 15- Sep 5. 3 Million GTD Series
PokerAtlas Tour Dallas.
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07-20-2023 , 09:18 PM
I was excited when Pokerstars announced the Philly LIVE! stop, and then the schedule comes out and its 16 days with 3 tourneys and a couple of turbos.... All the EPT and other Pokerstars series around the planet have all games, all stakes, and tons of options for players... You can hardly call this a series.

What a let down and IMO a missed opportunity to run a really nice series for a market that is craving live poker...

https://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/fes...hp?a=r&n=49351
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07-21-2023 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by riverph7
Why Borgata NJ, Parx PA and Foxwoods CT are not organizing poker tournaments is a burning �� question and not being answered with any logics .

But when king of poker tournaments WSOP decide to stay away from announcing any circuit tournaments events in NJ and PA is mind boggling !!
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Originally Posted by greatxwhite
I was excited when Pokerstars announced the Philly LIVE! stop, and then the schedule comes out and its 16 days with 3 tourneys and a couple of turbos.... All the EPT and other Pokerstars series around the planet have all games, all stakes, and tons of options for players... You can hardly call this a series.

What a let down and IMO a missed opportunity to run a really nice series for a market that is craving live poker...

https://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/fes...hp?a=r&n=49351
My question is still unanswered!!!

What is the secret behind everyone WSOPC , WPT( all the tours) , Borgata, Parx , Foxwoods etc etc suddenly wants to stay away from one of the biggest and very lucrative Poker Tournaments Market !!!

Even Poker Atlas doesn’t have option “Atlantic City” or “NJ” in their search for tournaments. !!! So strange

What is the secret reason we don’t know ?

And not one of them is even mentioning it.!!!!

How it’s possible no one wants to take a shot at the 2nd biggest market with no competition!!!!

Is it even possible who and whichever unknown forces behind this has that long reaching influence that covers 3 state casinos and commissions which regulates approvals of tournaments and series ?

There are 100’s of thousands tournaments players in nort east area and no one is questioning for a logical answer !!!

Covid,shortages of dealers etc are lame and wearout excuses. And why it only affects north east?

Last edited by riverph7; 07-21-2023 at 10:39 AM.
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07-21-2023 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by riverph7
My question is still unanswered!!!

What is the secret behind everyone WSOPC , WPT( all the tours) , Borgata, Parx , Foxwoods etc etc suddenly wants to stay away from one of the biggest and very lucrative Poker Tournaments Market !!!

Even Poker Atlas doesn’t have option “Atlantic City” or “NJ” in their search for tournaments. !!! So strange

What is the secret reason we don’t know ?

And not one of them is even mentioning it.!!!!

How it’s possible no one wants to take a shot at the 2nd biggest market with no competition!!!!

Is it even possible who and whichever unknown forces behind this has that long reaching influence that covers 3 state casinos and commissions which regulates approvals of tournaments and series ?

There are 100’s of thousands tournaments players in nort east area and no one is questioning for a logical answer !!!

Covid,shortages of dealers etc are lame and wearout excuses. And why it only affects north east?
As far as I know the WSOP is the only one with its own dealers. And I don’t think it has any casino affiliations in the region outside of turning stone.

As for the others, at this point, borgata is probably the only location capable of handling a major series. I don’t know what their relationship is with the WPT nowadays. My hope is that the Boston Encore expansion happens faster than people think and Wynn brings its WPT relationship there once or twice a year for major series. It would be huge.
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07-21-2023 , 05:01 PM
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As far as I know the WSOP is the only one with its own dealers. And I don’t think it has any casino affiliations in the region outside of …………………………………………. It would be huge.
There are 3 Ceasars properties in Atlantic City and 1 in PA and 1 in Maryland.

Atlantic City use to be always WSOP circuit stop.
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07-22-2023 , 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by riverph7
There are 3 Ceasars properties in Atlantic City and 1 in PA and 1 in Maryland.

Atlantic City use to be always WSOP circuit stop.
Well, then this question only needs to be asked of the WSOP. Why would they go to the middle of nowhere in upstate NY, but not AC. There must be a reason.
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08-04-2023 , 08:35 AM
After raising hell by north east poker players, needle is moving!!!

Not a big way but on right direction by Borgata Poker in Atlantic City.
( see new thread)
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