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View Poll Results: I would be interested if the Pool is
$25
39 32.50%
$50
36 30.00%
$100
43 35.83%
Only If there is escrow
36 30.00%
Only If someone Well known Holds the funds
53 44.17%
Winner/ must make day 2
14 11.67%
Winner/Winners must make in to Money
43 35.83%
Winner Takes all
30 25.00%
Multiple winners
25 20.83%
Too Big to manage !
18 15.00%

01-29-2015 , 07:33 AM
Looks like there is enough interest out there for Last Longer for $565 WSOP Event 1 Colossus !

Lets figure it out how to do it, for how much $$ and how to to distribute ?

Express yourself.

Select all appropriate answers.

Thx

Last edited by riverph7; 01-29-2015 at 07:48 AM.
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01-29-2015 , 09:44 AM
I can do $25, $50, $100.

Count me in if two criteria are met.

#1 Reputable / well known to hold $
#2 Winner must cash in event (for ease of determining winner(s))
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01-29-2015 , 09:49 AM
So one entry in last longer no matter how many times one enters the event?
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01-29-2015 , 12:48 PM
Only aloud to enter once, after all it's a last longer bet, if you lost in "flight A" your done, why should you be able to renter a last longer. I like the idea of need to be in the money to have a winner.
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01-29-2015 , 01:00 PM
Logistical nightmare if we do anything but 1 entry per person (and they can enter the tourney as many times as they would like.) I would hold money if people wanted for a $1-200 last longer, but would rather some other trustworthy person is found. I think the LL could be huge- haven't thought about payouts tons.. but if we get over 100 people 40/30/20/10 (maybe give 5-7 2x their buyin) seems good to me
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01-29-2015 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bodogari2ndaccount
Logistical nightmare if we do anything but 1 entry per person (and they can enter the tourney as many times as they would like.)
Seems like the unfortunate reality. Although you could do it once per day entry e.g so and so day1, since you would know from which day they moved forward.
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01-29-2015 , 01:26 PM
Make it for all the flights would be easier... Just whoever has best finish wins
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01-29-2015 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by nowitsover
I can do $25, $50, $100.

Count me in if two criteria are met.

#1 Reputable / well known to hold $
#2 Winner must cash in event (for ease of determining winner(s))

I'm in as well if these criteria's are met.
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01-29-2015 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by natedawg3488
Make it for all the flights would be easier... Just whoever has best finish wins
That would not be fair for non-deep pocket players vs. those who can afford to fire multiple bullets.

All players must announce their starting flight for the last longer bet. If they make day 2, then it can be easily crossed check against end of day 1a (or others) list.

So if your LG bet is for day 1a and you made day 2 because of firing a 2nd bullet, we can see that since your name does not show up on the end of day 1a list, you will be counted as a bustout.
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01-29-2015 , 05:35 PM
It is one entry per player with pre declared flight.
We will close the pool before the flight 1A starts .
If I see many players wants multiple flight entry ,then we may think
about that .
Again it will be pre declared. Say if you want to go for all 4 flight then you pay 4 time the pool entry !
Is it fair ?
Let's see what every one thinks
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01-29-2015 , 10:57 PM
Interested if someone reputable holds. Could be fun
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01-29-2015 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by riverph7
Again it will be pre declared. Say if you want to go for all 4 flight then you pay 4 time the pool entry !
Is it fair ?
+1 allow multiple flights.

Its fair (with extra entree fee required), just like filling out multiple ncaa brackets.
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01-30-2015 , 12:14 AM
Yea, like I'd trust poker players to tell me when they bust out
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01-30-2015 , 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by YappingYoda
Yea, like I'd trust poker players to tell me when they bust out
If it is just Yapping, I understand.

Otherwise no need to trust.

I think we are heading towards
" Winner/Winners must make in to Money"

It will be documented by WSOP Result
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01-30-2015 , 12:58 PM
How do you plan to manage multiple flights?

For example, I plan to play 1c. If I bust 1c then I will play 1d.

So I will have to pay for TWO last longer bet. If I make day 2 on flight 1c then will my last longer bet be refunded back to me for day 1d?

I assume so. Just a lot of accounting issues w multiple flights and people buying multiple last longer bet.

I say let's keep it simple...

All participants must choose 1 flight and that is their only flight for the last longer bet. OP will compile a list showing all participants and their respective starting flight. If they make day 2, then we can verify which flight it came from. If flight matches (OP's list vs. WSOP end of day list) then participant is still alive in last longer bet. All other scenario will be counted as a bust.

Note: If every participants fail to cash then all $ will be refunded.

Last edited by nowitsover; 01-30-2015 at 01:07 PM.
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01-30-2015 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by nowitsover
How do you plan to manage multiple flights?

For example, I plan to play 1c. If I bust 1c then I will play 1d.

So I will have to pay for TWO last longer bet. If I make day 2 on flight 1c then will my last longer bet be refunded back to me for day 1d?

I assume so. Just a lot of accounting issues w multiple flights and people buying multiple last longer bet.

I say let's keep it simple...

All participants must choose 1 flight and that is their only flight for the last longer bet. OP will compile a list showing all participants and their respective starting flight. If they make day 2, then we can verify which flight it came from. If flight matches (OP's list vs. WSOP end of day list) then participant is still alive in last longer bet. All other scenario will be counted as a bust.

Note: If every participants fail to cash then all $ will be refunded.

I'd probably be in for LL if it was more along the lines of this besides the "in the money" scenario. I'm sure if there's enough people in there will be someone who makes the money. Plus I've played in several LL where no one made the $$. Obviously it was in a live setting among friends but with the WSOP there is plenty of records of end of day and money finishers to reference.
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01-30-2015 , 02:58 PM
It gets way too complicated when you limit it to one bullet only. Or have more entries for more bullets. I vote you enter and the amount of bullets you fire is meaningless, it's just whoever lasts longer
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01-30-2015 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Deoxyribo
It gets way too complicated when you limit it to one bullet only. Or have more entries for more bullets. I vote you enter and the amount of bullets you fire is meaningless, it's just whoever lasts longer
That would create an unfair advantage for the sake of pure easy accounting.

I guess I am ok with four bullets / four flights counting as one last longer but I was just trying to suggest a fair approach for all.

$100 is no big deal so I don't really mind the disadvantage I get with 2 bullets (day 1c & day 1d) vs. somebody who is there to play 4 flights if necessary.
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01-31-2015 , 01:58 AM
I would not set up my rules with the assumption that wsop is going to release a individual end of day chip counts for each flight
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01-31-2015 , 03:16 AM
if youre doing pay per bullet youre just going by the honor system, oh i fired 3 bullets so im in for 3 entries in the LL.

guarentee if we get enough runners in the LL someone is going to fire more bullets than they pay for, because why would they? no way to prove it.
thats why its better to have one entry per player regardless of bullets fired
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01-31-2015 , 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Deoxyribo
if youre doing pay per bullet youre just going by the honor system, oh i fired 3 bullets so im in for 3 entries in the LL.

guarentee if we get enough runners in the LL someone is going to fire more bullets than they pay for, because why would they? no way to prove it.
thats why its better to have one entry per player regardless of bullets fired
I am sure many many players will be firing more then one bullets for The Event !

But for The Last Longer it will be Pre-declared flight (A,B,C or D) will count.

I am trying to figure out if we can manage multiple bullets for The Last Longer and how ?

That's for this forum is all about.

As per what I know, this was never done before with this kind of tournament and this big expected turn out.

I am planning to create the LL group by April 1st.

Till then lets mind storm all the idea and suggestions.

We as a forum group, will come up with the best possible final idea which is workable and acceptable to most of us.
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01-31-2015 , 05:25 PM
I'm down to do $100 per man and obviously unlimited ReEntry because there is no way to know if someone only entered once. I agree that it should be "in the money" and based on final result to determine winner.

It might be a disadvantage to those who only fire once or twice but trusting people to only fire 1 bullet is just silly and will cause controversy in the end.

I'd be okay with holding the funds but I'd like all money a week prior to heading to Vegas. Collecting money in Vegas will be to much of a hassle when this is the first event and I get there 1 night prior. I have multiple ways of collecting funds through transfers and bank deposits.

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02-01-2015 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by nowitsover
How do you plan to manage multiple flights?

For example, I plan to play 1c. If I bust 1c then I will play 1d.

So I will have to pay for TWO last longer bet. If I make day 2 on flight 1c then will my last longer bet be refunded back to me for day 1d?

I assume so. Just a lot of accounting issues w multiple flights and people buying multiple last longer bet............... ...................................
....Note: If every participants fail to cash then all $ will be refunded.
I am still trying to figure it out how to handle multiple flight entry. I know many players will be firing multiple bullets. It is unfair to player who fire only one bullet. And also it will be unfair to restrict players who fire multiple bullets to a single flight for Last Longer.
And it will be also logistic nightmare for organizer to keep track of all the accounting and who fire how many bullets and which flights he carry forward.
I think I have a one thought which will satisfied most of them.
I am leaning towards entry per day not per flight. Either you enter

Day 1 (Flight A and B) $50
or
Day 2 (Flight C and D) $50
or
Day1 and Day2 (Flight A,B,C and D. If you qualified on Day 1{Flight A or B} then we will refund 1/2 entry) $100

This are preliminary thoughts. Lets see how we get more suggestions
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02-01-2015 , 05:48 PM
too complicated, just do 1 entry per player, regardless of flights played.
it will be unfair to those not planning on firing mroe if needed but thats the only way its not super complicated and trusting

you want in? great, $100
you dont? ok maybe next time
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02-02-2015 , 12:50 AM
If your making a trip to the wsop for a 565 reentry event why would you not be prepared to fire 4 bullets?
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