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05-10-2022 , 06:04 PM
Who else is playing the WSOP "Homecoming tourney"? Curious about strategy and specifics about the 4 flights. How many runners?
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05-10-2022 , 08:02 PM
I'm not playing it. I'll be arriving in Vegas one day after the last starting flight.

However, we can infer some strategy from the structure. Ostensibly a very deep tournament with its 50k starting stack, but 30 minute levels with big jumps are going to chew people up around the dinner break. A solid TAG approach should ensure that you survive for ~4 hours, but after that the chips are really going to start flying. If you don't have a deep stack, you're going to be largely dependent on card distribution and all-in EV. Add in the immense field size (15-20k entries?) and you're going to need the rungood of a lifetime to make the final few tables.

Knowing that, I would just relax and enjoy the ride. Play some speculative hands with good nutted potential for cheap in the early levels when people will be making massive mistakes and stacking off way too light post-flop. With any luck, you may find yourself on a healthy stack as the blinds start putting most of your table in push-fold mode, giving you the ability to take lots of stabs at pots with little risk.

To be frank, I think the WSOP has several tournaments with better structure in this price range, but this one will be memorable from a spectacle/atmosphere standpoint. Should be a fun rollercoaster for those who are playing.
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05-11-2022 , 11:58 AM
If the 2021 Reunion is any indication, there will be a low quality of players. Preflop 4-Bets will usually be premium hands and you may want to focus on playing normally.

When I was the big blind, the small blind limp called a 15 blind shove by me (sb was the effective stack) with J6 offsuit against my A5 suited (around level 7 or 8 i think).
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05-12-2022 , 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by davepoker
If the 2021 Reunion is any indication, there will be a low quality of players. Preflop 4-Bets will usually be premium hands and you may want to focus on playing normally.

When I was the big blind, the small blind limp called a 15 blind shove by me (sb was the effective stack) with J6 offsuit against my A5 suited (around level 7 or 8 i think).
Yeah, but did you win or lose the hand? The answer to this determines whether your whining or celebrating the bad play that is common in these gimmicky opening events that draw large fields.

That is all.

GO BILLS! We're #1
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05-12-2022 , 10:08 PM
Best strategy for the WSOP 5M opener (homecoming, reunion, housewarming whatever they call it) tournament is skip the registration line and save your time by going straight to the craps table, at least you will save a couple days on the trip by know you didn't waste time playing a terribly structured massive-field tournament, sorry for the **** post, though it's true.

Last edited by StoneDouble; 05-12-2022 at 10:22 PM.
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05-13-2022 , 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by StoneDouble
Best strategy for the WSOP 5M opener (homecoming, reunion, housewarming whatever they call it) tournament is skip the registration line and save your time by going straight to the craps table, at least you will save a couple days on the trip by know you didn't waste time playing a terribly structured massive-field tournament, sorry for the **** post, though it's true.
😳 I already have the flight booked and the room comped so I guess I'll have to make the best of it. Wish me luck!
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05-13-2022 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by StoneDouble
Best strategy for the WSOP 5M opener (homecoming, reunion, housewarming whatever they call it) tournament is skip the registration line and save your time by going straight to the craps table, at least you will save a couple days on the trip by know you didn't waste time playing a terribly structured massive-field tournament, sorry for the **** post, though it's true.
S rating

Homecoming 78 $ 500
MILLY MAKER 141 $ 1500
Mini Main 88 $ 1000
MAIN EVENT 340 $10000

Easy Stone - Clearly the Homecoming at $500 is a faster pace than the "typical" WSOP Event but if you just take a look at Price point and compare it to the OTHER $400 - $600 buy ins at the various tourneys at all the Casino's its rating is decent it hardly qualifies as a pure crap shoot.

The absolute best "value " at the WSOP (IMO) in that price point are
Collossus at $400 with a S Rating of 102
$500 Salute to Soldiers at S rating 104
$500 WSOP NLH Deepstack S rating 104

Not everyone has the time or can shell out the $10K for the Main Event afterall
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05-14-2022 , 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by RealMcCoy
Not everyone has the time or can shell out the $10K for the Main Event afterall
Understood, though I am looking at the s-rating of 66 on the link below, definitely not good. And from my experience, after about 6 hours in you are going to have to start winning coin flips every other hour regardless, very little skill left in the mid-late stages, The Reunion (last year's name) horrendous final table play proved it. Also was a bit disheartening to see a prize pool over 5.5M where 1st place took home just 500K, not bad for $500, not good for just winning the lottery.

https://www.rainbowspuppiessunshine....ournaments.php

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Originally Posted by pansit
I already have the flight booked and the room comped so I guess I'll have to make the best of it. Wish me luck!
@Pansit, if you get in town by Thursday, play the Wynn's $600 Flight C 200K. S-rating 94 and 3% less rake. If you don't make day 2 in that one, the next day you can still put your fate in the hands of the Poker gods.

Last edited by StoneDouble; 05-14-2022 at 03:28 AM.
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05-14-2022 , 10:33 AM
I'll fly in on Wednesday and will play flight A on Thursday. I'm going to take alot of the advice from this thread, enjoy the new venue and have a great time. Who knows I might just get lucky and win those coin flips.
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05-14-2022 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by StoneDouble
Understood, though I am looking at the s-rating of 66 on the link below, definitely not good. And from my experience, after about 6 hours in you are going to have to start winning coin flips every other hour regardless, very little skill left in the mid-late stages, The Reunion (last year's name) horrendous final table play proved it. Also was a bit disheartening to see a prize pool over 5.5M where 1st place took home just 500K, not bad for $500, not good for just winning the lottery.

https://www.rainbowspuppiessunshine....ournaments.php
Interesting - was using COCO scheduler https://poker-schedule.com/table-view/ and typically the S Rating sunshine and the scheduler post are very close. I certainly don't recompute the S rating its a handy easy tool to compare events and both sites are excellent and appreciated.
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05-25-2022 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RealMcCoy
Clearly the Homecoming at $500 is a faster pace than the "typical" WSOP Event but if you just take a look at Price point and compare it to the OTHER $400 - $600 buy ins at the various tourneys at all the Casino's its rating is decent it hardly qualifies as a pure crap shoot.
I think the problem with the Homecoming, or other similar events in the WSOP, is that it is not only a crapshoot, it is a crap shoot over a long period of time. You have to be really lucky to do well in this event since you have to play for so much longer and dodge so many more mines. Of course, some players will be that lucky. Good on them. But the other events you described which have similar buy-in and similar fast structure are not the same as the Homecoming when it comes to luck factor.
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05-25-2022 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by akashenk
I think the problem with the Homecoming, or other similar events in the WSOP, is that it is not only a crapshoot, it is a crap shoot over a long period of time. You have to be really lucky to do well in this event since you have to play for so much longer and dodge so many more mines. Of course, some players will be that lucky. Good on them. But the other events you described which have similar buy-in and similar fast structure are not the same as the Homecoming when it comes to luck factor.
I agree, I will still buy in all 4 flights if needed, hope to get lucky as h*ll and have a great time.

Last edited by pansit; 05-25-2022 at 06:07 PM. Reason: Typo
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05-25-2022 , 06:36 PM
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I agree, I will still buy in all 4 flights if needed, hope to get lucky as h*ll and have a great time.
Yeah. You will not be remotely alone 😂
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05-25-2022 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by StoneDouble
Best strategy for the WSOP 5M opener (homecoming, reunion, housewarming whatever they call it) tournament is skip the registration line and save your time by going straight to the craps table, at least you will save a couple days on the trip by know you didn't waste time playing a terribly structured massive-field tournament, sorry for the **** post, though it's true.
Terrible structure lol? Look at the WSOP circuit events that start with 15k and 30 min levels. I feel the structure of this mtt is really good for the $500 buyin level + the fact the field is going to be very soft bc everyone can afford to play it.

Strat? Just play solid poker. I would probably have 4 bullets for it and fire each flight honestly. I wouldn’t fire more than 1 bullet a day unless you get coolered very early in the day and can happily afford it- I don’t see a ton of value with playing 2 bullets a day unless you are rolled for it. A tourny like this- going to be a lot of good players along with the clueless. I would reg on time and hope you get a hot seat at table 1 with a lot of mouthbreathers which I would expect in a $500 wsop event. Thing that sucks about these events is the fact the field gets much tougher the deeper you get. Sucks mid to late if you are at a table with a few solid players that have big stacks. It’s funny how you tend to see good players do well in these and the field just gets much tougher later on as there is kinda a lot of play + the bad players do what bad players do and punt.

I would play a more gto type strat against people you recognize as good or very competent and then exploit against the bad players. Same goes for all live mtts though. I feel it’s fairly easy to
Figure out in 40 min-1hr who is competent and who is not.
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05-26-2022 , 03:45 AM
Besides, you don't have a drunk blowing smoke in your face like at a craps table.
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05-29-2022 , 02:26 PM
i'm playing the housewarming. having played big events before, there is really only one way to run it up barring plain old luck. its called aggression. and, yes, i will start aggressive and build pots with any two, for the first 4 levels, give or take. goal is to quadruple up by dinner, or punt. if you see a guy raising or 3 betting every hand, and i do mean every hand --- and i do mean, when everybody sits down, the dealer starts throwing out the plastic, i will be the guy to raise to 4 maybe 5x, on the first hand --- that's me. as for you? i am playing with then sole intent of getting you to fold. so, here we go. get ready. come get some. YOLO. to the moon. yippee kay yah.
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05-29-2022 , 02:30 PM
I can’t wait! I’ll update here on my huge chip stack at the end of the first flight. Im thinking 1M +

Good luck and I’ll see you at the final table Texas!!

Last edited by pansit; 05-29-2022 at 02:38 PM. Reason: Typo
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05-29-2022 , 02:32 PM
Where is everybody staying at? Im at staying at the Venetian and will just Uber over.
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05-29-2022 , 02:44 PM
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Where is everybody staying at? Im at staying at the Venetian and will just Uber over.
You should investigate having the driver take Koval to Bally's/Paris instead of LVB. Depending on the time of day it could be much quicker. You might also want to be dropped off at Ballys instead of Paris, but I guess the direction you come from will make a difference.

You might also want to check out the cab situation. I'm not out there yet but I feel like rideshare may not be nearly the good deal it used to be and there is typically no wait on a cab.

Lastly its only about 15-20 minute walk from Venetian to Ballys/Paris, if that is an option.
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05-30-2022 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by pansit
😳 I already have the flight booked and the room comped so I guess I'll have to make the best of it. Wish me luck!
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Originally Posted by pansit
I'll fly in on Wednesday and will play flight A on Thursday. I'm going to take alot of the advice from this thread, enjoy the new venue and have a great time. Who knows I might just get lucky and win those coin flips.
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Originally Posted by akashenk
I think the problem with the Homecoming, or other similar events in the WSOP, is that it is not only a crapshoot, it is a crap shoot over a long period of time. You have to be really lucky to do well in this event since you have to play for so much longer and dodge so many more mines. Of course, some players will be that lucky. Good on them. But the other events you described which have similar buy-in and similar fast structure are not the same as the Homecoming when it comes to luck factor.
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Yeah. You will not be remotely alone 😂
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i'm playing the housewarming. having played big events before, there is really only one way to run it up barring plain old luck. its called aggression. and, yes, i will start aggressive and build pots with any two, for the first 4 levels, give or take. goal is to quadruple up by dinner, or punt. if you see a guy raising or 3 betting every hand, and i do mean every hand --- and i do mean, when everybody sits down, the dealer starts throwing out the plastic, i will be the guy to raise to 4 maybe 5x, on the first hand --- that's me. as for you? i am playing with then sole intent of getting you to fold. so, here we go. get ready. come get some. YOLO. to the moon. yippee kay yah.

Good Luck Pansit . All above quotes has merit. Every one has different style and expectations.

Since 2015 -2021, I have played every year :

THE COLOSSUS

The COLOSSUS II

THE COLOSSUS III

BIG 50

The Reunion.

I have cashed 5 out of 6 times though not huge.

But enjoyed every time.

Mostly cashed because there were many players played like TexasKK is forecasting he will play this year .
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05-30-2022 , 01:21 PM
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Good Luck Pansit . All above quotes has merit. Every one has different style and expectations.

Since 2015 -2021, I have played every year :

THE COLOSSUS

The COLOSSUS II

THE COLOSSUS III

BIG 50

The Reunion.

I have cashed 5 out of 6 times though not huge.

But enjoyed every time.

Mostly cashed because there were many players played like TexasKK is forecasting he will play this year .
Thanks River! Looks like we’ve played a lot of the same events with about the same results and I did cash the main 1 out of 3 times. Hoping to make it 2 out of 4 on July 4th flight.
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05-30-2022 , 02:04 PM
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Thanks River! Looks like we’ve played a lot of the same events with about the same results and I did cash the main 1 out of 3 times. Hoping to make it 2 out of 4 on July 4th flight.
I cashed Main last year too ( Again Min Cash $15000)
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05-30-2022 , 04:40 PM
I see flight C of the Wynn $200,000 guarantee is on Thursday, day 2 on Friday. Might play that and come in on flight C and D of the housewarming. Thoughts?
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05-30-2022 , 04:43 PM
That Wynn event looks fantastic IMO. Not trying to pour cold water on anyone's plans, but I'd be more excited to play that than the Housewarming. The structure is elite for a $600. If you can fit it into your schedule, I would fire a bullet or two for sure.

Housewarming is going to be higher variance because of the short-ish levels, but also much higher EV because it will have far more whales per capita. Also going to be a more memorable experience down to the insane field size.
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05-30-2022 , 05:19 PM
I now see that MGM Grand Summer series is also running on those days. Hmmmm. Not sure it’s possible to get all 3 in.

Event 42
50,000 chips 40 min levels 500k Guar.
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