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Old 03-06-2019, 12:26 AM   #51
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Re: GOLIATH 2019

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Chris, also note the Aria Poker Classic schedule just came out and they've gotten rid of most $470 mix events, namely the mixed triple draw and 2-7nlsd (now they're $240s in July well away from the corresponding $1500s). The only mix they have in June now is a $470 HORSE warmup the day before the $1500 and also a random $1100 HORSE later in the month. I'd say this gives PH an opening to put in some of these $470 consolations at 11am the day after the $1500 dealers choice, mixed triple draw, 8game, 2-7nlsd, 2-7td, and more. The reason I say 11am for these events is often there's another $1500 WSOP mix event at 3pm.
Actually, it looks like most WSOP "mixed game" (non-NLHE) tournaments have at least 1 off day in between if <= $3000.

The only "back to back" exceptions with events <= $3000:
6/2, 3p: 1500 DC
6/3, 3p: 1500 NL 2-7 SD *not many in mixed game crowd would play NL 2-7 SD

6/8, 3p: 1500 8 game
6/9, 11a: 600 PLO
6/9, 3p: 1500 stud 8

6/12, 11a: 1000 PLO
6/13, 3p: 1500 2-7 TD *there is some overlap b/w PLO and 2-7 TD crowds.

6/18, 11a: 600 NLHE/PLO
6/18, 3p: 2500 Big Bet Mix
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Old 03-06-2019, 12:50 AM   #52
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Re: GOLIATH 2019

Hi Chris
Looks like higher buy ins on mixed is being addressed

Please put an O8 warm up tournament in on May 29th.
One day structure w 11am or noon start
$400 range

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Old 03-08-2019, 10:20 AM   #53
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Re: GOLIATH 2019

Chris,

Aria & GN have released their schedules, so that may be it until April.

There's two conflicts between PH & GN:

6/24 GN $360 Big O; PH $200 PLO8 - This is all the more reason to increase BI to ~$600 (and possibly move it as well)

6/26 GN $570 Mixed O8; PH $1100 Big O - You should strongly consider moving this event, as it will be a tough choice for the PLO8 crowd. If you decide to keep it here, maybe make it a Goliath stack?

There's a lot of room for PLO8 & Big O in the June 6-22 period (a lot of PLO 6/9-6/12 & 6/15-6/17... FLO8 on 6/14), the only caveat being that Venetian will likely hold a couple such events during that time as well.
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Old 03-08-2019, 12:40 PM   #54
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There's two conflicts between PH & GN:

6/24 GN $360 Big O; PH $200 PLO8 - This is all the more reason to increase BI to ~$600 (and possibly move it as well)

6/26 GN $570 Mixed O8; PH $1100 Big O - You should strongly consider moving this event, as it will be a tough choice for the PLO8 crowd. If you decide to keep it here, maybe make it a Goliath stack?

On the 24th, given that the WSOP PLO8 is the next day, I would suggest that a $600 PLO8 with at least a $40k guarantee is going to attract more people who would otherwise consider the $360 GN Big O with its $10k guarantee. I would not recommend moving the event but otherwise agree with AINTD.

I am struggling with the conflict on the 26th. On the one hand, I think the PLO8 crowd would rather play this event than GN's Mixed O event, even though there is a WSOP Mixed O event the next day. On the other hand, selfishly, I would love to play both events and the only way that happens is if PH switches the event with another day.
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Old 03-08-2019, 04:02 PM   #55
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On the 24th, given that the WSOP PLO8 is the next day, I would suggest that a $600 PLO8 with at least a $40k guarantee is going to attract more people who would otherwise consider the $360 GN Big O with its $10k guarantee. I would not recommend moving the event but otherwise agree with AINTD.
That should work.

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I am struggling with the conflict on the 26th. On the one hand, I think the PLO8 crowd would rather play this event than GN's Mixed O event, even though there is a WSOP Mixed O event the next day. On the other hand, selfishly, I would love to play both events and the only way that happens is if PH switches the event with another day.
I tend to agree, but it seems rather uncertain. With a more moderate BI as a warm-up available downtown, it will be somewhat split IMO.
I would also like to play both events and think it would be wise to move it. The only reason not to move it is to avoid a potential conflict with a Venetian PLO8 event, but the probability of that is ~20-25%(?), compared to the certainty of a viable alternative at GN if it's left as is.
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Old 03-09-2019, 05:26 AM   #56
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with the exception of 8 and 6 max, do you guys play 9 handed? and is it in the same spot as WSOPC was in NOV?

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Old 03-11-2019, 12:38 AM   #57
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I guess I'll also state my (minority) opinion that I like the $200 price point. I just find anything higher outside of WSOP to be too tough for my liking.



I think this is a good compromise.
For PH, I think $200 is even a high price point. I've been playing their events the last 4 years and the fields are not like the GN or even the Aria gets. I've found that around a third of the PH players just happen to be staying in the hotel and are casual players vs the GN where you'll even run into pro's in the daily $150.
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Old 03-12-2019, 12:13 PM   #58
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Re: GOLIATH 2019

Feel free to move the Ladies event - it starts 2 days before I arrive.
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Old 03-12-2019, 01:50 PM   #59
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with the exception of 8 and 6 max, do you guys play 9 handed? and is it in the same spot as WSOPC was in NOV?

cheers
Goal is always 9 handed but will go 10 handed in the event we are projected to hit max capacity

Cue the 11 handed joke that someone is sure to fire off
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Old 03-13-2019, 05:09 AM   #60
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Re: GOLIATH 2019

GOLIATH... still No.1 in Rake
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Old 03-14-2019, 12:25 PM   #61
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GOLIATH... still No.1 in Rake
As in the highest or lowest rake?

Comparing a GOLIATH $600 buy in to another $600 buy in on the strip - GOLIATH was $520 + $80 (which is accurately spelled out on the flyer, no hidden fees on the bottom of a structure sheet or extra % withheld) and the other venue charged $87 in rake for a $600 buy in.

Comparing with that same venue for a $300 buy in, GOLIATH was $255+$45 whereas the other venue charged $53 in rake.

I believe our rake is very competitive for the starting chips / structures offered and also accurately spelled out on our main flyers. Other venues in town still advertise $xxx + $xx and then you have to scroll down to one of the final bullet points of the structure sheet to see that there's an additional x% withheld.
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Old 03-16-2019, 01:37 PM   #62
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Re: GOLIATH 2019

Venetian schedule out. Their 800 Mixed PLO and GN's 570 Mixed O8 on 6/26 make it a no brainer to move PH 1100 Big O event from same day. There is nice gap on 6/17 or 18 (days 2,3 WSOP 1500 PLO).
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Old 03-19-2019, 07:22 PM   #63
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Hi Chris, do you think the definitive schedule will be out this week or next week?
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Old 03-21-2019, 01:20 PM   #64
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Hi Chris, do you think the definitive schedule will be out this week or next week?
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