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04-12-2016 , 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Nash_equilibria
What do I click on the main page, or link please?
Main menu at the top of the wsop.com site:

Events...2016 WSOP... Reservations.

http://www.wsop.com/2016/reservations/

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04-12-2016 , 02:34 PM
Final Schedule; https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4_...ew?usp=sharing

Structure info; https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4_...ew?usp=sharing

Additional Info; https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4_...ew?usp=sharing

Last edited by TDChrisG; 04-12-2016 at 02:41 PM. Reason: wrong info
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04-12-2016 , 04:53 PM
Chris, I still don't see the starting stack and times for each level for the Quantum events.
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04-12-2016 , 08:55 PM
I'm still having a really hard time grasping what a Quantum Reload is. Based on the buy-in levels, the first tournament that has 130, 240, and 350 buy-ins: shouldn't it be 10%, 20%, 30% that make it through (the 10,12,15 makes sense on the second one)?

Or maybe it should be less on the smallest buy-in?

The website of the guys who own that is pretty weird, it seems to imply there's an add-on of the same amount as the buy-in at some point. Is that the case?

I looked through the entire thread, and in my many years of playing poker this is the most confused I've ever been about a tournament.
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04-13-2016 , 12:15 AM
Structure for the $520+$80 Seniors, please?
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Originally Posted by TDChrisG
Not sure, looks like we missed that one. Has to be a 1 day tourney so there will have to be a modification somewhere to make it take 10-12 hours.
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04-13-2016 , 03:34 AM
Chris, for multiple day events, how many levels will each starting day play? This thread is long so I may have missed it.
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04-13-2016 , 05:39 PM
Lots of missing data (structures/chips/levels):

USO
Exposed
Goliath Seniors
Quantam
Lips
Stars and Stripes
Tag Team
Bounty
Goliath Satellite
Deaf
10k Survivor

And Event #48 is listed as an Almost Goliath, but is $200 + $40 which isn't on the structure sheet.
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04-13-2016 , 11:34 PM
Is there a shuttle bus from Planet Hollywood to the Rio?
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04-14-2016 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Nomboo
Is there a shuttle bus from Planet Hollywood to the Rio?
No. But there is one from Bally's to Rio. Bally's is very close to Planet Hollywood. 5 minute was from PH to Bally's shuttle pick up for the Rio.
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04-14-2016 , 12:11 PM
What is starting stack for limit tourneys? 30-minute blind levels I assume?
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04-14-2016 , 02:25 PM
Quantum Tournament Information
$150K GTD 5/26 - 5/29 Event 1 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4_...ew?usp=sharing

$300K GTD 6/16 - 6/19 Event 49 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4_...ew?usp=sharing

And here's a video talking more about Quantum https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https...Fs&h=EAQHc2wlP
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04-14-2016 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Kaboom_Poker
Chris, for multiple day events, how many levels will each starting day play? This thread is long so I may have missed it.
So let's put this out for the group to ponder...do we prefer 10 - 11 hours of play and no dinner break or 9 - 10 hours of play with a 1 hour dinner break. Keep in mind that we have food delivery service from PF Changs, Ringer, and Earl of Sandwich while you play.
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04-14-2016 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Botswami
What is starting stack for limit tourneys? 30-minute blind levels I assume?
Ther are no actual LHE events though.
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04-14-2016 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by plog
Lots of missing data (structures/chips/levels):

USO
Exposed
Goliath Seniors
Quantam
Lips
Stars and Stripes
Tag Team
Bounty
Goliath Satellite
Deaf
10k Survivor

And Event #48 is listed as an Almost Goliath, but is $200 + $40 which isn't on the structure sheet.
will follow the $255 + $45 structure

USO - Quick Charity Event structure that make for a 5 - 6 hour tourney, still being finalized
Exposed Turbo Events
Goliath Seniors Turbo Events w 30 minute levels
Quantam posted link just a few minutes ago
Lips still finalizing
Stars and Stripes Turbo Events w 20 or 30 minute levels
Tag Team Turbo Events w 20 or 30 minute levels
Bounty Turbo Events w 20 or 30 minute levels
Goliath Satellite Turbo Events w 20 minute levels
Deaf being finalized
10k Survivor Turbo Events w 30 minute levels
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04-14-2016 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ClickItBak
I'm still having a really hard time grasping what a Quantum Reload is. Based on the buy-in levels, the first tournament that has 130, 240, and 350 buy-ins: shouldn't it be 10%, 20%, 30% that make it through (the 10,12,15 makes sense on the second one)?

Or maybe it should be less on the smallest buy-in?

The website of the guys who own that is pretty weird, it seems to imply there's an add-on of the same amount as the buy-in at some point. Is that the case?

I looked through the entire thread, and in my many years of playing poker this is the most confused I've ever been about a tournament.
just posted all the info, check recent posts
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04-14-2016 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TDChrisG
just posted all the info, check recent posts
Your structure sheets don't exactly make much sense. For the first one:
Buyin is 100+30 for flight 1, 10% make it through. Each of those 10% get 100k avg chips, $400 in their pocket, so $600 (100/.1-400) goes into the prizepool.
Buyin is 200+40 for flight 2, 12% make it through. Each of those 10% get 100k avg chips, $400 in their pocket, and $1266 (200/.12-400) goes into the prizepool.
Buyin is 305+45 for flight 3, 15% make it through. Each of those 15% get 100k avg chips, $400 in their pocket, and $1633 (305/.15-400) goes into the prizepool.
Direct buyins for day 2 contribute 900 to the prizepool and get the 100k avg chips.

So...why would anyone play anything other than flight 1? Seems pretty absurd that by playing the 350, you're contributing 175% more to the prizepool as those who play the $130, and 81% more than those who just direct buy for 1k.

For the second one you don't list rake or fees at all (which is absurd), but running the same numbers and assuming base values for each of the flights,
Buyin for flight 1 is 235 (assuming 200+35), 10% make it through. Each of those 10% get 100k avg chips, $500 in their pocket, and $1500 (200/.1-500) goes into the prizepool.
Buyin for flight 2 is 340 (assuming 300+40), 12% make it through. Each of those 12% get 100k avg chips, $500 in their pocket, and $2000 (300/.12-500) goes into the prizepool.
Buyin for flight 3 is 450 (assuming 400+50), 15% make it through. Each of those 15% get 100k avg chips, $500 in their pocket, and $2166 (400/.15-500) goes into the prizepool.
Direct buyins contribute $1700 into the prizepool and get the 100k avg chips.

So less bad, but still bad enough to make me wonder why playing the 450 could possibly be good value.

What am I missing here?
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04-14-2016 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TDChrisG
So let's put this out for the group to ponder...do we prefer 10 - 11 hours of play and no dinner break or 9 - 10 hours of play with a 1 hour dinner break. Keep in mind that we have food delivery service from PF Changs, Ringer, and Earl of Sandwich while you play.
Personally, I hate all breaks including dinner breaks so I'd rather have an extra hour of play, especially with food delivery service available.
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04-14-2016 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jmmj05
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Originally Posted by TDChrisG
So let's put this out for the group to ponder...do we prefer 10 - 11 hours of play and no dinner break or 9 - 10 hours of play with a 1 hour dinner break. Keep in mind that we have food delivery service from PF Changs, Ringer, and Earl of Sandwich while you play.
Personally, I hate all breaks including dinner breaks so I'd rather have an extra hour of play, especially with food delivery service available.
I think he's definitely in the minority for this one... you can't have an all day tourney with no dinner break. Everyone eating at the table is just not what you want...
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04-14-2016 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TDChrisG
Goliath Seniors Turbo Events w 30 minute levels
20,000 starting chips for this $600 event?

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Originally Posted by jmmj05
I hate all breaks including dinner breaks so I'd rather have an extra hour of play, especially with food delivery service available.
+1.
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04-14-2016 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BillyBizzle
Your structure sheets don't exactly make much sense. For the first one:
Buyin is 100+30 for flight 1, 10% make it through. Each of those 10% get 100k avg chips, $400 in their pocket, so $600 (100/.1-400) goes into the prizepool.
Buyin is 200+40 for flight 2, 12% make it through. Each of those 10% get 100k avg chips, $400 in their pocket, and $1266 (200/.12-400) goes into the prizepool.
Buyin is 305+45 for flight 3, 15% make it through. Each of those 15% get 100k avg chips, $400 in their pocket, and $1633 (305/.15-400) goes into the prizepool.
Direct buyins for day 2 contribute 900 to the prizepool and get the 100k avg chips.

So...why would anyone play anything other than flight 1? Seems pretty absurd that by playing the 350, you're contributing 175% more to the prizepool as those who play the $130, and 81% more than those who just direct buy for 1k.

For the second one you don't list rake or fees at all (which is absurd), but running the same numbers and assuming base values for each of the flights,
Buyin for flight 1 is 235 (assuming 200+35), 10% make it through. Each of those 10% get 100k avg chips, $500 in their pocket, and $1500 (200/.1-500) goes into the prizepool.
Buyin for flight 2 is 340 (assuming 300+40), 12% make it through. Each of those 12% get 100k avg chips, $500 in their pocket, and $2000 (300/.12-500) goes into the prizepool.
Buyin for flight 3 is 450 (assuming 400+50), 15% make it through. Each of those 15% get 100k avg chips, $500 in their pocket, and $2166 (400/.15-500) goes into the prizepool.
Direct buyins contribute $1700 into the prizepool and get the 100k avg chips.

So less bad, but still bad enough to make me wonder why playing the 450 could possibly be good value.

What am I missing here?
All rakes are clearly listed on our flyer for each tourney and we don't have any hidden additional fees like some other houses may list in small print...and if you qualify you don't go to a 100K stack, you bag your chips and that will be your day 2 starting stack. In the event you qualify more than once you take your best stack to day 2 and your other stacks are forfeited.
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04-14-2016 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Nash_equilibria
20,000 starting chips for this $600 event?

+1.
20K for seniors
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04-14-2016 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TDChrisG
All rakes are clearly listed on our flyer for each tourney and we don't have any hidden additional fees like some other houses may list in small print...and if you qualify you don't go to a 100K stack, you bag your chips and that will be your day 2 starting stack. In the event you qualify more than once you take your best stack to day 2 and your other stacks are forfeited.
Nowhere in my post do I say that a player takes a 100k stack. I'm saying that the average stack is 100k, which it is. What I am saying is that the different flights contribute *drastically* different amounts to the prizepool. Like, massively different. You did not address that.

This is no different than setting up a $100 satty where 10% qualify for the next round and a $300 satty where 15% qualify for the next round, and the next round is a group of people from both. Were you to chop the tourney evenly, and had an even amount of qualifiers from both. Say 150 players in the 100, which means 15 qualify, and 100 players in the 300, which means 15 more qualify. Those players have combined to make a prize pool of 45k (100*150+300*100), which divided evenly across the players makes each person worth $1500. Seems way more valuable to be in the 100 satty than the 300, because the value of making it just increased by $500 because of which flight you were in.
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04-14-2016 , 05:07 PM
Also, the structure sheet that you posted for the 300k guarantee quantum reload (that doesn't have the fees broken out) also has different buyin amounts for the 240/235 and 350/340 flights than what is listed on your schedule.
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04-14-2016 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TDChrisG
So let's put this out for the group to ponder...do we prefer 10 - 11 hours of play and no dinner break or 9 - 10 hours of play with a 1 hour dinner break. Keep in mind that we have food delivery service from PF Changs, Ringer, and Earl of Sandwich while you play.
I prefer the 60 minute dinner break. It allows for time to get up, walk around, get some food and come back refreshed and full. My guess is that the older the player (like 35+), the more likely they would like the dinner break. Wasn't it 90 minutes two years ago? That was too long.
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04-14-2016 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BillyBizzle
Nowhere in my post do I say that a player takes a 100k stack. I'm saying that the average stack is 100k, which it is. What I am saying is that the different flights contribute *drastically* different amounts to the prizepool. Like, massively different. You did not address that.

This is no different than setting up a $100 satty where 10% qualify for the next round and a $300 satty where 15% qualify for the next round, and the next round is a group of people from both. Were you to chop the tourney evenly, and had an even amount of qualifiers from both. Say 150 players in the 100, which means 15 qualify, and 100 players in the 300, which means 15 more qualify. Those players have combined to make a prize pool of 45k (100*150+300*100), which divided evenly across the players makes each person worth $1500. Seems way more valuable to be in the 100 satty than the 300, because the value of making it just increased by $500 because of which flight you were in.
misunderstood your original post, my apologies. I will double check the fees...
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