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11-03-2011 , 07:40 PM
LAPC schedule is done and I will have Kevmath put it up shortly.

The schedule includes postlim events unlike previous years

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11-03-2011 , 08:03 PM
Dont know if it has been asked allready ITT, but is there thoughts on a WPT in Australia?
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11-03-2011 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BigAl123456
Dont know if it has been asked allready ITT, but is there thoughts on a WPT in Australia?
Would love it and it has been discussed!
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11-03-2011 , 08:50 PM
Def like the idea of having multiple stops at the places where there's high demand, such as Borgata and Commerce. Also, making one of em a 3500 re-entry and the other a 10k is a great idea.
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11-03-2011 , 08:54 PM
There's a big $10K in Vegas that draws over 7000 players, having a WPT in Vegas that starts on day 2 or 3 of that big $10K would also be a good idea!
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11-03-2011 , 10:08 PM
It would be cool if the WPT tried to add another Caribbean location in the future. I'm pretty sure the Aruba Poker Classic used to be a WPT, aswell as that event they had in Turks and Caicos.
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11-03-2011 , 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DJA125
It would be cool if the WPT tried to add another Caribbean location in the future. I'm pretty sure the Aruba Poker Classic used to be a WPT, aswell as that event they had in Turks and Caicos.
Amen to that brother!

I miss Aruba badly, the problem with that is the WPT needs a Casino partner to run the event so maybe the Caribbean casinos will step up.
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11-04-2011 , 05:15 AM
Please,please dates for Parx
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11-04-2011 , 06:55 AM
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Please,please dates for Parx
As soon as I get them you will have them in this thread.

Sorry about the delay
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11-07-2011 , 07:51 PM
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Please,please dates for Parx
+8.7 million........lol
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11-07-2011 , 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Todd Terry
The last time the Borgata was a $10K it drew 516 and was the third largest $10K in the US that year. Its buyin wasn't reduced due to lack of demand, it was to increase the casino's revenue by increasing the number of players (which decreased the prize pool). I'm fairly sure the problem with the Foxwoods event isn't the buyin, it's the venue.
There was also a 5mm guarantee on that event that year that Tab and Stan were sweating out hardcore, and not nearly the same competition w/ other HSMTTs in Europe as there is in today's fall calendar. That being said, Borgata is prob the only Northeast casino that could successfully pull of a WPT 10k in today's environment and it should be the flagship event of their flagship series (Borg Classic in Sept). Tab and Stan could even put a 2.5-3mm guarantee on it and it would be met easily IMO. Make the winter open a 3500 TV WPT as well (its always a huge turnout anyway). I also think you underestimate how enormous the New England poker market really is. Foxwoods used to have 600+ for their 10ks on a regular basis, due mainly to their "Acts" that they would run year round. Agree that the casino is kind of dated and its a pretty boring area, but they need to revamp their satty system and frankly just make poker a priority. I dont think its necessarily the venue, its the entire poker operation from top to bottom. In the interim, make the Oct WPT a 3500 and put a 1mm guarantee or something on it...
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11-07-2011 , 11:31 PM
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I also think you underestimate how enormous the New England poker market really is. Foxwoods used to have 600+ for their 10ks on a regular basis, due mainly to their "Acts" that they would run year round. Agree that the casino is kind of dated and its a pretty boring area, but they need to revamp their satty system and frankly just make poker a priority. I dont think its necessarily the venue, its the entire poker operation from top to bottom. In the interim, make the Oct WPT a 3500 and put a 1mm guarantee or something on it...
Never going to happen as long as Scott Butera is CEO. One of his motivating factors to revamping the comp system was to reduce/eliminate casino offers specifically for poker players. He couldn't care less about poker players.
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11-12-2011 , 04:04 PM
Matt, has a WPT event in the NW US been discussed? Seems like that we have a large enough player pool and quite a few casinos large enough to host one.
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11-13-2011 , 02:54 AM
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Matt, has a WPT event in the NW US been discussed? Seems like that we have a large enough player pool and quite a few casinos large enough to host one.
Yes, hoping like you that becomes a reality
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11-13-2011 , 03:25 AM
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Yes, hoping like you that becomes a reality
Vancouver (Canada) WPT anyone? I know the latest BCPC that just went down was met with several comments expressing disappointment with issues like TDA rule-enforcement, decision-making with regards to player requests, structure, and payouts.

It has been heard that PokerStars nearly had an NAPT stop in Vancouver before the BCLC (BC Lottery Corporation) stepped in and rejected the proposal due to thoughts it would infringe upon the success of their local gaming/poker site, PlayNow.Com.

Vancouver is such a great spot for a 3.5k, or 5k WPT event, considering the location makes for easy travel for so many players (a short flight from poker meccas LA/LV) and the poker community here is very healthy. Also such a great city to explore and enjoy when you aren't grinding.
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11-14-2011 , 03:34 PM
The rest of the Season X schedule is released:

€4,950 Venice II: February 6-11 (Televised)

$10,000 LA Poker Classic: February 24-29 (Televised)

$10,000 Bay 101 Shooting Star: March. 5-9 (Televised)

€3,500 WPT Vienna: March 26-31

$10,000 Seminole Hard Rock Showdown: April 18-23 (Televised)

$5,000 Jacksonville II: April 28 - May 2 (Televised)

$25,500 WPT World Championship: May 19-26 (Televised)

$100,000 WPT Super High Roller: May 23-25 (Clips on WPT Championship broadcast?)

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11-14-2011 , 04:22 PM
Parx?
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11-14-2011 , 04:37 PM
Asked about Parx, they decided to hold off until season XI.
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11-14-2011 , 05:19 PM
So:

1. Biloxi gone. Never drew huge fields but was a good event at a great hotel. Will miss it.
2. Hollywood Indiana gone. Hooray!
3. Dublin conflicts with PCA. Why you would ever try to run a live event during the PCA? It would be great to run it right before or after the Irish Open, which is always on Easter weekend.
4. Venice I and Venice II both conflict with Epic events. Must be a protectionist measure like not letting Air France buy Alitalia.
5. No events in January. Huge hole in the schedule. A few years ago there were two: Biloxi and Borgata Winter Open.
6. There are now two venues in the US with multiple WPT events: Bellagio (down from 4 to 2, canceling Bellagio Cup which was during WSOP ME makes no sense) and Jacksonville, which has never hosted a WPT before. Can't see why you wouldn't use established, successful venues for multiple events instead of Jacksonville.
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11-14-2011 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Todd Terry
So:

1. Biloxi gone. Never drew huge fields but was a good event at a great hotel. Will miss it.
2. Hollywood Indiana gone. Hooray!
3. Dublin conflicts with PCA. Why you would ever try to run a live event during the PCA? It would be great to run it right before or after the Irish Open, which is always on Easter weekend.
4. Venice I and Venice II both conflict with Epic events. Must be a protectionist measure like not letting Air France buy Alitalia.
5. No events in January. Huge hole in the schedule. A few years ago there were two: Biloxi and Borgata Winter Open.
6. There are now two venues in the US with multiple WPT events: Bellagio (down from 4 to 2, canceling Bellagio Cup which was during WSOP ME makes no sense) and Jacksonville, which has never hosted a WPT before. Can't see why you wouldn't use established, successful venues for multiple events instead of Jacksonville.
1. +1, after I busted one kid, last year on Day 2 was the youngest person at my table by 10+ years. Please bring back this event and run it the week before PCA.

2. No clue why this casino ever thought they would draw especailly when they tried to run against NAPT Mohegan.

3. Terrible idea WPT or more likely PKR who is sponsoring the event.

4. Don't think these events have much if any overlap in their fields. Wouldn't be shocked if their were less than 10 Epic-qualified players who played WPT Venice last February even when it ran right after EPT Deauville, one of the best value events of the year.

5&6. No reason why Borgata shouldn't have 2 WPT's a year. I suggest making the Fall Open a higher buyin, if not a a 10k, why not a $7500 ala the old Reno WPT stop and continuing the Winter Open as a 3500. Really don't see why Jacksonville is not only doing two WPT's but scheduling them at the beginning of snowbird season and one that is after the end of snowbird season. If anywhere in Florida should have two stops, it should be at the Hard Rock in Miami as they consistently draw decent fields and are in probably the top 5 poker markets in the U.S. right now. Also, a hell of a lot more discretionary income in South Florida than Jacksonville even with the condo collapse. The events in South Florida can probably draw even better with better marketing to Latin America. The recent event in Punta Cana, DR drew over 300 players for a $1500 buyin made up of primarily players from all over Latin America. I suggest keeping the April stop as a 10k and having a 3500 with reentry in late November-January timeframe. A 3500 with reentry scheduled the week after PCA would draw a massive field with being int he peak of snowbird season and being a hop, skip, and jump for players attending PCA from all over the world, many of whom have layovers in FLL or MIA airports anyway.

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11-14-2011 , 06:53 PM
Beau Rivage has a 5k with a $1m guarantee in January. Check out the Million Dollar Heater thread in this forum.
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11-14-2011 , 08:03 PM
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Parx?
Kevmath is right, neither side could not agree to a date for season X as Parx wants to heavily market it for season XI.
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11-14-2011 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Todd Terry
So:

1. Biloxi gone. Never drew huge fields but was a good event at a great hotel. Will miss it.
2. Hollywood Indiana gone. Hooray!
3. Dublin conflicts with PCA. Why you would ever try to run a live event during the PCA? It would be great to run it right before or after the Irish Open, which is always on Easter weekend.
4. Venice I and Venice II both conflict with Epic events. Must be a protectionist measure like not letting Air France buy Alitalia.
5. No events in January. Huge hole in the schedule. A few years ago there were two: Biloxi and Borgata Winter Open.
6. There are now two venues in the US with multiple WPT events: Bellagio (down from 4 to 2, canceling Bellagio Cup which was during WSOP ME makes no sense) and Jacksonville, which has never hosted a WPT before. Can't see why you wouldn't use established, successful venues for multiple events instead of Jacksonville.
As always, good points Todd

I think that you can see the reason for some events going away but at the same time they will still be missed. Almost impossible for there not to be a conflict these days unfortunately. Bellagio being dropped from 4 to 2 was a mutual decision and makes scheduling the show dates easier for sure.

Jacksonville will be a great new partner and obviously happy being a part of the Seminole Hard Rock, Commerce, and Bay 101 events as TD.
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11-14-2011 , 08:27 PM
why does bay 101 start on a monday and not towards the weekend like most every other stop? (i know its always been this way, just curious)
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11-14-2011 , 09:26 PM
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why does bay 101 start on a monday and not towards the weekend like most every other stop? (i know its always been this way, just curious)
+1 Agreed with this. College players have spring break starting that weekend and tests that week so starting it over that weekend would be much preferable imo.
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