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Cash side games at the WSOP: rake? Cash side games at the WSOP: rake?

07-15-2021 , 03:54 AM
I've attended maybe a dozen WSOPs but never actually entered an event. That's because the cash side game action has always been so soft. You can bounce from table to table until you find a gang of bozos, milk them dry, move on, lather, rinse, repeat. Especially late at night, when people are desperately trying to scrounge up tomorrow's entry fee.

Now, these games are the least pleasant played anywhere. The dealers are often incompetent (for instance, I've caught them several times raking the pot twice), service is nonexistent (you have to stand in line at the cashier to buy chips, even to rebuy; the dealer won't sell you chips and there are no chip runners), and the chairs are the most uncomfortable cheap-ass mass-produced junk you've ever experienced. You want anything to eat, stand in line at the one shitty snack bar to get a $9 sandwich that tastes like cardboard.

But the games...good grief, the way people play. It makes it all worth it. However, I hear that CET is now raking 10% with a cap of $6 (and there is no jackpot or corresponding drop). Does anyone know if this is true (or worse)? That rake would make even these juicy games unplayable.
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07-16-2021 , 08:37 AM
I play for a living in Tampa and we're paying $5 rake plus $2 jackpot drop, and I still find the PLO games plenty profitable.

Not sure how the $6 rake is going to take away from people stacking off.
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02-01-2023 , 08:50 PM
$6 isn't the worst tbh. Let me ask for you again LVL to see if we can get a better response!
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02-01-2023 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by madrobin
I've attended maybe a dozen WSOPs but never actually entered an event. That's because the cash side game action has always been so soft. You can bounce from table to table until you find a gang of bozos, milk them dry, move on, lather, rinse, repeat. Especially late at night, when people are desperately trying to scrounge up tomorrow's entry fee.

Now, these games are the least pleasant played anywhere. The dealers are often incompetent (for instance, I've caught them several times raking the pot twice), service is nonexistent (you have to stand in line at the cashier to buy chips, even to rebuy; the dealer won't sell you chips and there are no chip runners), and the chairs are the most uncomfortable cheap-ass mass-produced junk you've ever experienced. You want anything to eat, stand in line at the one shitty snack bar to get a $9 sandwich that tastes like cardboard.

But the games...good grief, the way people play. It makes it all worth it. However, I hear that CET is now raking 10% with a cap of $6 (and there is no jackpot or corresponding drop). Does anyone know if this is true (or worse)? That rake would make even these juicy games unplayable.
Considering the universal house rake is pretty much $5 everywhere, I don't think one additional $1 is going to make the game unbeatable by any stretch, especially at the $2-$5 and above. And the games play juicy at the WSOP so it makes the rake less of a concern than your standard local casino game with a bunch of regular OMCs. I've been playing at Del Lago poker room in NY and their max rake is 10% up to $100, and a $3 promotions drop. Now THAT is bad! Don't fret about $6
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02-03-2023 , 02:05 PM
Seems silly to claim that $5 rake is fine but $6 rake makes games unplayable. I'm honestly surprised we haven't seen more rake increases to $6 or $7 given inflation.

Having said that, while I haven't played cash games at the WSOP in a while, when I did 5-10 years ago I often found the NHLE games in the WSOP room to be tougher than games at other rooms like Bellagio at the same time and same stake.

So if I wanted to play like 2/5 NL, my first choice wouldn't be the WSOP for reasons unrelated to rake. However, the WSOP also spreads limit games and mixed games you won't find at other rooms, so they have that going for them.
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02-04-2023 , 05:23 PM
trust me if your beating the donks your the lucky one
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02-06-2023 , 01:06 PM
Boston Encore Harbor cash game rake: 10$. Yup! a disgrace. And they take 1-2$ for the jackpots.
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02-06-2023 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Tintinpoker
Boston Encore Harbor cash game rake: 10$. Yup! a disgrace. And they take 1-2$ for the jackpots.
I bet the dealers there are unionized like they are at Del Lago in NY. That's why the house has to rake more to pay the higher salaries. Don't you just LOVE the Northeast?!
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02-06-2023 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Tintinpoker
Boston Encore Harbor cash game rake: 10$. Yup! a disgrace. And they take 1-2$ for the jackpots.
Played 5/10 at the encore a week ago (first time back since covid) Time drop was $13 per half hour....... Bellagio's drop is $7 per half hour.... I think the drop in the Kings lounge last year was $10.
Boston Encore not as poker friendly as it used to be.
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02-20-2023 , 04:23 PM
What are your local underground home game rakes? I always laugh when people complain of $6-7 when underground card rooms rakes are $15+ with jackpot pulls and are still unbelievably beatable with the right people
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