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02-18-2019 , 12:54 PM
Adelson won’t stop trying to get all forms of online gambling banned. Boycott all his propert also.

https://www.cardplayer.com/poker-new...mbling-illegal
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02-18-2019 , 02:23 PM
god that old rat is disgusting. he looks like hes wearing a skin-mask on his face. just pray everyday he dies like i do.
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02-19-2019 , 12:04 AM
he's in my celebrity death pool this year...
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02-19-2019 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by WateryBoil
god that old rat is disgusting. he looks like hes wearing a skin-mask on his face. just pray everyday he dies like i do.
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Originally Posted by uncleriver
he's in my celebrity death pool this year...
You guys (or gals) every sit around and consider that maybe your life-choices haven't been all that great?
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02-19-2019 , 09:47 AM
absolutely, poker players boycotting The V poker room and tourneys will bring Adelson to his knees. It might bankrupt him.
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02-19-2019 , 07:11 PM
I will not. I don't like his stance on internet gaming but his room is much nicer than playing in the Masquerade casino at Rio.
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02-20-2019 , 01:34 AM
It's like pissing in the wind. Online poker isn't coming back to this country again, ever.
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02-20-2019 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by akashenk
You guys (or gals) every sit around and consider that maybe your life-choices haven't been all that great?
Are you offended that they don’t like Sheldon Adelson, and can you offer a defense of him as a person?
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02-21-2019 , 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by arcdog
Are you offended that they don’t like Sheldon Adelson, and can you offer a defense of him as a person?
I have no personal opinion of the man, as I don’t know him personally. I am not here to defend or promote him. But, setting aside the wrongheaded, hypocritical and ultimately futile (The Venetian poker room has done extremely well in recent years) notion of an anti-Adelson boycott of the V poker room... I do find it pretty disgusting that anyone would cheer for the death of another person because they have differing views and/or business interests.
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02-21-2019 , 04:50 PM
If I were going to boycott the Venetian, it would probably be due to his other political views, instead. Since those reasons would appeal to a wider audience beyond poker, if I wanted to harm Adelson financially, I would organize a boycott over those issues even if my main contention was his actions against online poker.
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02-21-2019 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by akashenk
I have no personal opinion of the man, as I don’t know him personally. I am not here to defend or promote him. But, setting aside the wrongheaded, hypocritical and ultimately futile (The Venetian poker room has done extremely well in recent years) notion of an anti-Adelson boycott of the V poker room... I do find it pretty disgusting that anyone would cheer for the death of another person because they have differing views and/or business interests.
Yeah it’s disgusting they people would use things such as hyperbole and metaphors to communicate disdain for a pathetic excuse of a person like Adelson.

To clarify, I know he’s an actual person, and so “excuse for a person” is not to be taken literally.
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02-22-2019 , 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by arcdog
Yeah it’s disgusting they people would use things such as hyperbole and metaphors to communicate disdain for a pathetic excuse of a person like Adelson.
Wishing someone you have never met and likely never will death over political views or poker is not hyperbole. It’s mental illness.
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02-22-2019 , 03:10 PM
I do a semi-boycott of The Venetian. I play poker there but I refuse to stay there or eat, shop, or drink there.
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02-22-2019 , 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by akashenk
Wishing someone you have never met and likely never will death over political views or poker is not hyperbole. It’s mental illness.
Good grief buddy - when people type in chat that they want a villain to die in a grease fire they don’t literally mean it - are you that dense? You don’t seem to understand what things like metaphor and hyperbole are and so perhaps you should stay off the internet.

Checking your posts it seems as if you’ve actually started a thread defending Sheldon Adelson before so you’ve picked a strange, fat disgusting arse to kiss - have at it.

You’ve also posted “I’m against online gambling” and so you clearly are an idiot.
I don’t want you to die but I wish you weren’t full of stupid opinions. That should be taken literally.
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02-23-2019 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by arcdog
Good grief buddy - when people type in chat that they want a villain to die in a grease fire they don’t literally mean it - are you that dense? You don’t seem to understand what things like metaphor and hyperbole are and so perhaps you should stay off the internet.

Checking your posts it seems as if you’ve actually started a thread defending Sheldon Adelson before so you’ve picked a strange, fat disgusting arse to kiss - have at it.

You’ve also posted “I’m against online gambling” and so you clearly are an idiot.
I don’t want you to die but I wish you weren’t full of stupid opinions. That should be taken literally.
People post all sorts of nasty stuff on the internet. Stuff about shooting up schools or places of worship or public concerts, for example. I suppose all that sort of stuff is hyperbole too.

Anyhow the stuff about online gambling i discussed was from a couple years back. And if you read the threads, I think you would have gathered my primary concern was over the issue of government regulation of the internet. I am obviously not at all opposed to gambling. But those who think that online gaming is “the same thing” as B&M gaming, do not understand gaming or internet technology.

And lastly, once again about Adelson, I don’t believe I have ever defended him personally. I only defended his right to live his life and run his business however he likes within the law. And anybody who doesn’t like the way he lives his life or runs his business is certainly free to not buy products from him. But the notion of a boycott of the V poker operation on account of Adelson is just idiocy on a number of fronts.

A) Adelson couldn’t care less about the success or failure of the poker room. If it fails, he’ll just build some new mega club and probably make a lot more money. Therefore a boycott would not injure him at all and could even line his pockets with more money. However, failure of the poker room would cost lots of everyday working people their jobs, including many who likely share some poker players’ views about online poker and/or gaming in general.

B) When you start looking into the personal lives and business dealings of higher-ups in companies, you are likely to find reprehensible stuff wherever you look. Just look at the recent Wynn settlement with the NGC. Should people boycott the Wynn poker room because of the behavior of Wynn and certain member of upper management (some of whom remain with the company)? Or how about CAESARS, which entered into a pretty sketchy bankruptcy proceeding a few years ago and was sued for attempting to defraud certain bond holders. I think they eventually settled for like 5 billion dollars, but I’m pretty sure anyone who cared about the issues involved in that case could have found some pretty objectionable activities on the part of the heads of CET. Should they have boycotted the WSOP as a result?

So, the point is, boycotting some tiny part of a larger business because you disagree with the head of the business is not really a principled stance, but rather a form of hypocrisy and selective indignation. By all means, go ahead and boycott if it makes you feel better. But you’re cutting off your nose to spite your face by passing up a great product.
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02-23-2019 , 05:40 PM
are wynn and ceasers actively trying to kill online poker? do you even read the mindless drivel you write? disgusting.
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02-23-2019 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by WateryBoil
are wynn and ceasers actively trying to kill online poker?
So you hold the V poker room responsible for Adelson, but you do not hold the Wynn poker room or the WSOP responsible for the behaviors of their ownership/management?
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02-24-2019 , 10:35 AM
'T'aint really 'bout boycotting. There is so much of the pokers in June Vegas I just have spend my time and money on the others not Venetian.
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02-28-2019 , 09:48 PM
won't be long now...condition is 'dire'

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...h-lawyer-says/
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03-03-2019 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by akashenk
So you hold the V poker room responsible for Adelson, but you do not hold the Wynn poker room or the WSOP responsible for the behaviors of their ownership/management?
Adelson has worked for years to prohibit many of us here from doing something we love - for you to think it’s “idiocy” for us to not want to support his interests is comical. I don’t stay out of the Venetian because Sheldon Adelson is a horrible excuse for a human - anyone who’s been around him can tell you that - but why wouldn’t I find a better place to spend my money if I can?

Being Adelsons only 2p2 defender, all the while claiming to not defending him, is quite the silly dance. If you were in his presence he wouldn’t acknowledge you and if you dropped a $10 bill he’d step on it and wait for you to leave - you can find a better fat troll to defend.
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03-03-2019 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by arcdog
Adelson has worked for years to prohibit many of us here from doing something we love - for you to think it’s “idiocy” for us to not want to support his interests is comical. I don’t stay out of the Venetian because Sheldon Adelson is a horrible excuse for a human - anyone who’s been around him can tell you that - but why wouldn’t I find a better place to spend my money if I can?

Being Adelsons only 2p2 defender, all the while claiming to not defending him, is quite the silly dance. If you were in his presence he wouldn’t acknowledge you and if you dropped a $10 bill he’d step on it and wait for you to leave - you can find a better fat troll to defend.
I don’t really know how many ways to say it so you understand. If the V poker room fails, Adelson makes more money and a whole bunch of regular folks, many of whom agree with you regarding online poker, are hurt. That is the only result of your boycott if it were to work. A successful boycott would be entirely counter-productive to your goals. Fortunately for the folks working in the V poker room, there have been people bloviating about boycotts for years, and the V poker room continues to do really well. I have no idea if that will always be the case, but to this point, people talking about boycotts are either all talk, or represent an extremely insignificant segment of the population. In the meantime, the vast majority of others are enjoying a good product.

And really for the last time... I am not a defender of Adelson in any personal or even professional sense. I don’t know the guy. Never met him. Don’t even care to. Don’t follow his business or politics. I’m sure there are things I agree with him on and others I do not. I’m sure there are things he does and ways he conducts himself that I would not approve of. That is the way it is with everybody. And I am not a hypocrite. The V poker room offers a great product. And I consume it. I don’t concern myself with people who are like 4 levels of management beyond the V poker room.

But I forgot, you want to be able to blow all your money gambling online, but Adelson doesn’t want you to. I guess that makes him the devil. No wonder you don’t want to support him. But I wonder, how many other devils you support every day of your life. And how do you choose which ones to support and which ones to to throw childish tantrums over?
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03-03-2019 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by deadlysyns
Adelson won’t stop trying to get all forms of online gambling banned. Boycott all his propert also.

https://www.cardplayer.com/poker-new...mbling-illegal
I know this is Poker related thread . No politics here . I don’t care what his views are
about online poker. It’s not that important to me .

But I can’t support a complicit of a traitor .

I am with you Sir.
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03-10-2019 , 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by akashenk
I don’t really know how many ways to say it so you understand. If the V poker room fails, Adelson makes more money and a whole bunch of regular folks, many of whom agree with you regarding online poker, are hurt. That is the only result of your boycott if it were to work. A successful boycott would be entirely counter-productive to your goals. Fortunately for the folks working in the V poker room, there have been people bloviating about boycotts for years, and the V poker room continues to do really well. I have no idea if that will always be the case, but to this point, people talking about boycotts are either all talk, or represent an extremely insignificant segment of the population. In the meantime, the vast majority of others are enjoying a good product.

And really for the last time... I am not a defender of Adelson in any personal or even professional sense. I don’t know the guy. Never met him. Don’t even care to. Don’t follow his business or politics. I’m sure there are things I agree with him on and others I do not. I’m sure there are things he does and ways he conducts himself that I would not approve of. That is the way it is with everybody. And I am not a hypocrite. The V poker room offers a great product. And I consume it. I don’t concern myself with people who are like 4 levels of management beyond the V poker room.

But I forgot, you want to be able to blow all your money gambling online, but Adelson doesn’t want you to. I guess that makes him the devil. No wonder you don’t want to support him. But I wonder, how many other devils you support every day of your life. And how do you choose which ones to support and which ones to to throw childish tantrums over?
It seems that every thread you enter results in you completely misreading (or just not caring about) the posts you respond to, and then making really bad logical responses to those posts. I’m sure you are a good person but you are a horrific debater.

Best of luck to you at the tables.
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03-10-2019 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by akashenk
So you hold the V poker room responsible for Adelson, but you do not hold the Wynn poker room or the WSOP responsible for the behaviors of their ownership/management?
If you care about nuance, there are degree's of bad and evil. And everyone has a different list of what qualifies one as bad or evil, which I completely understand. I encourage you to research Sheldon Adelson and what his money supports and how many people it negatively affects.
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03-10-2019 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by arcdog
It seems that every thread you enter results in you completely misreading (or just not caring about) the posts you respond to, and then making really bad logical responses to those posts. I’m sure you are a good person but you are a horrific debater.

Best of luck to you at the tables.
Please point to a single example supporting your conclusions here.
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