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01-05-2024 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by riverph7
Did they covered the guarantee ?They needed 880 runners for final day 1E flight.

Previously with $600 price point they always covered 2 Million guarantee for opening event. (4000 or more runners)

Seems like $800 price point for opening event didn’t go well with Borgata poker tournament fan .
Seems like it was a resounding success for a weekday multiflight.
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01-06-2024 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by kk405
Is Tab still tourney director at Borgata? also, does anyone know if online registration will become available? how about special room rates?
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Originally Posted by WhiteJesus
Probably gonna be a long wait to sign up for events considering this is the first major series in ac going on 4-5 years now
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Originally Posted by riverph7
Online Registration is available through BetMGM poker >tourneys>Borgata WPO
Did anyone tried online registration ?

How does it work ?

Thx
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01-06-2024 , 12:56 PM
Can anyone who was there for the $800 event comment on how they doing capacity wise? Do they have enough dealers/tables? Long wait lines to register the morning of an event? Did they have to use alternates or was everyone able to get seated right away? Thanks.
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01-06-2024 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Boss716
Can anyone who was there for the $800 event comment on how they doing capacity wise? Do they have enough dealers/tables? Long wait lines to register the morning of an event? Did they have to use alternates or was everyone able to get seated right away? Thanks.
Hey boss- I played Friday $600 and today $400- it seems really well run. No wait lists I’ve seen so far and $600 has over 600 players- today 1099 entries and no wait lists. They are using the main poker room and an upstairs conference room (it’s cramped but a lot of tables).
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01-06-2024 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Jkpoker10
Hey boss- I played Friday $600 and today $400- it seems really well run. No wait lists I’ve seen so far and $600 has over 600 players- today 1099 entries and no wait lists. They are using the main poker room and an upstairs conference room (it’s cramped but a lot of tables).
Awesome that's great to hear. Thanks
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01-06-2024 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Boss716
Can anyone who was there for the $800 event comment on how they doing capacity wise? Do they have enough dealers/tables? Long wait lines to register the morning of an event? Did they have to use alternates or was everyone able to get seated right away? Thanks.
I played $800 event. Not like usual mad rush for opening event like previous years. But again in the past most of the opening events were $500 or $600 buy-ins.

Though they covered the guarantee easily but nothing like past events. No waiting in line at all.

May be event # 5 will draw lager crowd.
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01-07-2024 , 01:28 AM
Played Friday in the $600 Bounty, which was well-run with good dealers at my tables. Only problem is that it was a 4:00 p.m. start with 850 runners. I understand that they had to suspend play in what was supposed to be a one-day event and pick it up on Saturday. Same phenomenon with the Saturday event, I understand. Too many runners for the structure. I made the money at 3:00 a.m. early Saturday morning then went uber aggro b/c my buddy who was my ride home was out and wanted to leave. Last time I hitch a ride with somebody to a poker event, but also likely the last time I register for a 4:00 p.m. event like this without having a room reserved for the night. But good poker and generally pleasant players. Borgata is off to a great start with this series!
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01-07-2024 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Boss716
Awesome that's great to hear. Thanks
Btw boss sign up at odd times if possible. Line this morning was kinda long. Idk if it was for cash or cash and tourny but line was insanely long. I assume it was seniors mtt bc it was all older guys. Line was 100+ deep. Sign up super early or late at night.


Made final 2 tables of the $400 Saturday. Very well run tourny so far- conference room is a little packed but other than that very good. Agree with kevin- they shouldn’t have scheduled a 1 day event for 4 pm. The Saturday finished I assumed but structure had 5k less chips and 25 instead of 30’min levels + start time of 11 am instead of 4. I wouldn’t hate if they started tournys at 10am honestly bc field sizes are gigantic.

I want to play almighty (all flights) but 6pm seems like a super late start with and end time of what- 3:30 which is super late.
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01-07-2024 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jkpoker10
Btw boss sign up at odd times if possible. Line this morning was kinda long. Idk if it was for cash or cash and tourny but line was insanely long. I assume it was seniors mtt bc it was all older guys. Line was 100+ deep. Sign up super early or late at night.


Made final 2 tables of the $400 Saturday. Very well run tourny so far- conference room is a little packed but other than that very good. Agree with kevin- they shouldn’t have scheduled a 1 day event for 4 pm. The Saturday finished I assumed but structure had 5k less chips and 25 instead of 30’min levels + start time of 11 am instead of 4. I wouldn’t hate if they started tournys at 10am honestly bc field sizes are gigantic.

I want to play almighty (all flights) but 6pm seems like a super late start with and end time of what- 3:30 which is super late.
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Originally Posted by riverph7
Online Registration is available through BetMGM poker >tourneys>Borgata WPO
I registered online through BetMGM NJ 40 minutes ago for Tuesday event#5. Flight 1E.

It took my $500 but didn’t get any email confirmation. All I have is a screen shot from BetMGM.

Did anyone else registered through online ?
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01-07-2024 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Jkpoker10
Btw boss sign up at odd times if possible. Line this morning was kinda long. Idk if it was for cash or cash and tourny but line was insanely long. I assume it was seniors mtt bc it was all older guys. Line was 100+ deep. Sign up super early or late at night.


Made final 2 tables of the $400 Saturday. Very well run tourny so far- conference room is a little packed but other than that very good. Agree with kevin- they shouldn’t have scheduled a 1 day event for 4 pm. The Saturday finished I assumed but structure had 5k less chips and 25 instead of 30’min levels + start time of 11 am instead of 4. I wouldn’t hate if they started tournys at 10am honestly bc field sizes are gigantic.

I want to play almighty (all flights) but 6pm seems like a super late start with and end time of what- 3:30 which is super late.
Thanks for the tip! Is registration open 24/7?
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01-07-2024 , 09:11 PM
Any final numbers for event 5 , Day 1A runners?

Poker.org was showing 608 at around 2PM
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01-07-2024 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by riverph7
Any final numbers for event 5 , Day 1A runners?

Poker.org was showing 608 at around 2PM
It is 909 final numbers for event 5 , Day 1A runners.
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01-08-2024 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by riverph7
I registered online through BetMGM NJ 40 minutes ago for Tuesday event#5. Flight 1E.

It took my $500 but didn’t get any email confirmation. All I have is a screen shot from BetMGM.

Did anyone else registered through online ?
I also registered for event 5, day 1E via betMGM poker, over a week ago, and haven’t gotten an email yet. When I used betMGM poker to register for the fall mini series, I didn’t get an email right away either. It came a few days later, but several days prior to the event. With 1E starting tomorrow morning, I would have thought they’d be emailed out already.

When I log into the app now, I can see my name in the list of registered players, so I’m not worried about being able to get my seat. Just go to the registration line marked for “online registrants” and they should have your name on the list.
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01-08-2024 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMick7
I also registered for event 5, day 1E via betMGM poker, over a week ago, and haven’t gotten an email yet. When I used betMGM poker to register for the fall mini series, I didn’t get an email right away either. It came a few days later, but several days prior to the event. With 1E starting tomorrow morning, I would have thought they’d be emailed out already.

When I log into the app now, I can see my name in the list of registered players, so I’m not worried about being able to get my seat. Just go to the registration line marked for “online registrants” and they should have your name on the list.
Thx TheMick7….

…..Riverph7
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01-08-2024 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMick7
I also registered for event 5, day 1E via betMGM poker, over a week ago, and haven’t gotten an email yet. When I used betMGM poker to register for the fall mini series, I didn’t get an email right away either. It came a few days later, but several days prior to the event. With 1E starting tomorrow morning, I would have thought they’d be emailed out already.

When I log into the app now, I can see my name in the list of registered players, so I’m not worried about being able to get my seat. Just go to the registration line marked for “online registrants” and they should have your name on the list.
Good Luck .

See you tomorrow.
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01-08-2024 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by riverph7
Good Luck .

See you tomorrow.
Thanks! You too
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01-09-2024 , 04:47 PM
Event 5 , Day 1 E , 8th level brake 1080 runners
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01-10-2024 , 12:14 PM
Hey fellow degens,

I'm thinking about riding into the Borgatz Saturday for the 200K. Since this is a one day, I'm assuming it will end late AF. My plan is to late reg, maybe two hours in, to shorten the day a bit and avoid fatigue.

Anyone think I'll be stuck in line as an alternate? Anyone late reg last Saturday? How was your experience.

Thanks
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01-11-2024 , 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by BeLikeWater
Hey fellow degens,

I'm thinking about riding into the Borgatz Saturday for the 200K. Since this is a one day, I'm assuming it will end late AF. My plan is to late reg, maybe two hours in, to shorten the day a bit and avoid fatigue.

Anyone think I'll be stuck in line as an alternate? Anyone late reg last Saturday? How was your experience.

Thanks
I can’t guarantee anything but they had 1k players for a monster stack flight and I saw nothing regarding wait lists or alternates which was awesome. A ton of dealers at borgata it seems (traveling dealers).

I’m at borgata now. Cashed in 2 tournies and made solid runs! Sadly just didn’t catch the heat late needed to win a big field mtt- play has been super juicy so I def recommend 2+2ers to check it out (so much value with the live regs not playing during Covid). I felt the tournaments were run very well.

Small qualms have been this: structures are good but it seems each mtt has like an average stack of 20-25 bb late which is so annoying. I know this is standard but I felt late Venetian tournies were closer to 30-40 bb late. I miss 40 min levels for whole tourny- idc if chips are lower # but I love when we get longer levels- I would much prefer an earlier start time so more play was had.

Even the monster stack was like an average of 20 bb late which I found odd bc it switched to 40 min levels on day 2 and started with a ton of chips + normal solid structure. I feel most folks live are playing too tight honestly and valuing tournament life a tad too much.

Also, they have adjusted their tournies to a point that has been odd. They didn’t play almighty stack to 9 players today and plan to do a final table steam on Friday instead of the planner Thursday/ this is bad for folks that traveled. I would have taken time off work for the extra day but was never in my plans (odds of making final table are comically low anyways in a 3900 player field).

All in all, well done by the new TD at borgata. I think some tweaks should be made for next series but has been solid so far. I’m sure they will adjust accordingly. I don’t think they thought the #s would be what they are based on some of the tournament start times/ aggressive scheduling of many tournies.

Btw final note- I would just reg on time. Early play has been so juicy I feel: idk I would fade the extra rest and play on time when dead money is around. I feel folks punt stacks far too easily so you want to be there for these punts. You can almost coast to a min cash easily if you somehow find a good spot where someone puts out a punt. I had a guy rip 40bb against my mp open (Villian was in bb) in a spot he should never be ripping bc it just allows me to play perfectly. I’ve also seen people fold Ax face up in standard bb defend spots against me where I min open to 2x late in a tourny when stacks are shallow. Had a lady today fold her bb to my sb shove when she had 2-3 bbs and I should be ripping any two cards from the sb. I see far too much crazy stuff happing to a point I feel late regging isn’t ideal.
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01-11-2024 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Jkpoker10

Btw final note- I would just reg on time. Early play has been so juicy I feel: idk I would fade the extra rest and play on time when dead money is around. I feel folks punt stacks far too easily so you want to be there for these punts. You can almost coast to a min cash easily if you somehow find a good spot where someone puts out a punt. I had a guy rip 40bb against my mp open (Villian was in bb) in a spot he should never be ripping bc it just allows me to play perfectly. I’ve also seen people fold Ax face up in standard bb defend spots against me where I min open to 2x late in a tourny when stacks are shallow. Had a lady today fold her bb to my sb shove when she had 2-3 bbs and I should be ripping any two cards from the sb. I see far too much crazy stuff happing to a point I feel late regging isn’t ideal.
You make a good point. Usually the later in the tournament, the more condensed it is with good players. Does anyone know how many hours last weeks Saturday series lasted for? I'm assuming they didn't split it into two days? I'm guessing 16 hours or so.
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01-11-2024 , 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BeLikeWater
You make a good point. Usually the later in the tournament, the more condensed it is with good players. Does anyone know how many hours last weeks Saturday series lasted for? I'm assuming they didn't split it into two days? I'm guessing 16 hours or so.
I finished final two tables in Saturday $400. I wanna say it went to 2-4am. Idk exactly but two tables at 1-1:30 I think and the structure was a tad quick- 25 min levels so if you play a tourny with 30min levs: expect it to go longer.

I would look at structure and guesstimate a # of players it will get. Normally in these tournies, it’s 20-25 bb average stack so that can give you a ball park guess of how many levels it will go.
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01-11-2024 , 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Jkpoker10
I wanna say it went to 2-4am
That's a crazy long day of poker. And then you have to factor in the drive home if your not staying over night.

This one will also be 25 min. Maybe with the higher buy in it will be a smaller field and a little bit quicker.
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01-12-2024 , 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BeLikeWater
That's a crazy long day of poker. And then you have to factor in the drive home if your not staying over night.

This one will also be 25 min. Maybe with the higher buy in it will be a smaller field and a little bit quicker.
I would just play it and stay if you make it deep. Idk, 18/1200ish players were left at what? 1-1:30 probably. It’s a good problem to have if you are still in the tournament and have to drive home after. I would just stay the night or book a room at a cheaper place nearby if you need to stay. Only what 1.5% of the field will make final 18 in that player pool so you aren’t going to be around that long a big % of the time.

If it’s a higher buy in, yea the player pool will be much smaller and will mean not such a long tournament. Trust me- I would reg on time if possible and try to catch a punt or two.


Borgata did a great job with the event. Just got home. I feel borgata kinda went downhill a bit. Idk this may get laughed at but I couldn’t even get good tasting coffee at the breakfast spot I chose at borgata each morning. Like in Vegas, the breakfast alone was much better than at borgata which is a little surprising because borgata is supposed to be the best casino in AC. I know Vegas and AC are totally different but still. Entertainment wise- AC isn’t even bringing in solid djs really for a fun weekend night out (this has nothing to do with poker but still think AC is on the way out fairly soon).

I hope borgata tweaks schedule/ structures/ for future events. I still think the Venetian runs the best lower buy in deep stack events. If Borgata could give me 40 min levels from the start and say 30-40k stacks with a start at 100-100 including all of the normal levels, I would be happy. Maybe this will get laughed at but I kinda wish like 2 levels could be added in these mtts to make the bb jumps a little less crazy. The jump from a 30 to 40k bb seems gigantic if you ask me (a 35k level would be cool even tho kinda awkward: what is it going to be 18-35k or 17-35k?). I feel adding the 100-200 level at the start and then maybe like a 35k level would
Be awesome for more play.

Another note- I like how they run some solid 1 day events but also multi flighters. I would like some more multi flight events at lower buyin range $400-800 if possible. Idk just have like 2 days and maybe run 2 flights each day- why not have a 10am and 5pm start where you try not to have the 2nd flight end too late. Idk I keep saying this but the Venetian has perfect model if you ask me (they only have 1 flight a day though). The $400-100k / $600 150-200ks they run to me are the best value in poker. Random note- I love these multi flight events btw- I keep hearing how some folks will fire 5-10 bullets: the value in these mtts is just insane. I’ll still never understand why folks fire away in events with great structures where they can just fire 1-2 bullets a flight (bullet 2 should be due to a bad cooler honestly). Like I’m fine if you fire 4 bullets, aka 1 each flight but if you are going say 8-12 deep and just punting away in bad spots/ yuck just unreg pre.

The almighty stack event has to be some of the best value for buy in point. 100k stack and you include most of the levels (sure it would be better at 40 min levels instead of 30). I saw some things early that would make you go- I wish this tournament happened more often because it was pure value. I tend to think live players don’t realize how many bbs they have early and not many should go into a pot as a bluff per se without nutty hands or a bluff that is going to work a super super high % of the time. For example I had a lady turn a Q6hh button flat of an open into a bluff in a spot where it was just like what is the point.

She was nice and all- I wanted to give her advice (I didn’t want to come off as a dick so I didn’t say anything) but wanted to be like dude, just muck Q6hh there as you are going to bleed chips against better Qx and better flushes long run. I also feel I was colluded against kinda. 2 guys at my table were talking to each other like they were friends (it appeared they were), I think I flatted a raise By one guy, the friend 3!. And I 4! With AA. I believe friend 1 was out of hand 1 but hand 2- friend 1 opens, i flat AKo on semi short stack for period of tourny early in day 1, friend 2 raises big, I make it a fairly large 4! That is stack comitting. Both friends call with no bounty implications. Idk to me it just seemed super sketchy. It wasn’t a big deal and hand played out funny bc I took odd line but just seemed a little questionable. I think friend 1 had A9 and friend 2 had other junk. I didn’t think much about it but even another guy at the table saw me later and said something about the hand and how they seemed to be friends. It’s not a big deal but I found it sketchy.

Btw I love the nyc crowd. I used to think those guys were good poker players etc. you think the masculine guido types etc. yikes I feel they are like over aggro and don’t understand how strong a hand actually is (tpgk or even most tptk) isn’t that great 100-200bb deep facing a x raise on a flop or turn early in an mtt. Hope I don’t get hate here but I feel the borgata brings in that dumb money nyc crowd for tournies that just makes the events super juicy. I had a guy late in almighty calling 74o and other trash hands pre to raises (100 players left so super important time of tourny), guy ran hotter than the sun and people at my table were even commenting on it but damn I was like wow this table is amazing for so deep into mtt in big spot. Guy ended up flatting my opens (on 30-40bb stack)me 2x and owning my cbets post flop bc he hit but still was such a good spot (like in vegas, I’ve never seen such a soft table deep at a $400-800 Venetian event). Even watching the final table of the almighty, folks are open to more than 2x when stacks are super shallow which makes me roll my eyes bc 2x is basically the same thing as a 2.2-2.5x open and just allows for more post flop maneuvering.
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01-12-2024 , 09:58 AM
Mostly a lurker, but I have to agree that Borgata did a great job.

I cashed in the Saturday Series, which was very well run. Interesting note - at my table with <200 players left, there were 4 females at the table. Even they were commenting how they have never played with so many females, other than a ladies event.

Played 2/2 PLO for the first time and binked a nice win. I could not believe the hands people were calling 3! with.

Overall, positive trip.
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01-12-2024 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Jkpoker10
Btw I love the nyc crowd. I used to think those guys were good poker players etc. you think the masculine guido types etc.
I know the type LOL.

I ended up caving and reserving a room. Hopefully I wont be out too early otherwise I'll have a lot of free time.

A bit off topic but.. any good strip clubs down there? Preferably with mostly pretty white girls? I'm not racist but my dick is.
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