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01-08-2025 , 03:05 PM
I agree with the Real McCoy, having Diamond status is very worth it. Resort fees run about $40 per night, and since you're planning 14-15 nights, getting Caesars Diamond through the Founders card will definitely pay for itself, and then some. In addition to the money savings, you have priority lines for hotel check in and other things that can save you lots of wait time.

Is this still a thing. Last year they told me they were only renewing for people who already had status through their site. I did so that was good but my renewal is coming up in February and i want to make sure this is sill part of the offerings. If you can still get it its well worth the money.
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01-08-2025 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by tomshooter
I agree with the Real McCoy, having Diamond status is very worth it. Resort fees run about $40 per night, and since you're planning 14-15 nights, getting Caesars Diamond through the Founders card will definitely pay for itself, and then some. In addition to the money savings, you have priority lines for hotel check in and other things that can save you lots of wait time.

Is this still a thing. Last year they told me they were only renewing for people who already had status through their site. I did so that was good but my renewal is coming up in February and i want to make sure this is sill part of the offerings. If you can still get it its well worth the money.
Founders times the renewal with the the annual year end that CAESARS has were points revert to zero which is the end of January. Currently on the site that is all they show (and could offer ) effectively good thru 1/31/25. I will be monitoring what FoundersCard shows after that and make sure the board is aware of the ongoing status of that PERK. I sure as hell don't want to mislead anyone since it is such a critical status upgrade for we poker players.
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01-08-2025 , 09:31 PM
Decided to book my Airbnb!

Hoping past years will be a good indicator for this summer’s schedule. If not, I have free cancellation until May… which by then I’ll definitely know.

Looking at 19 days, June 12 - July 1.

CAN’T WAIT!
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01-09-2025 , 12:04 AM
Seeing something weird trying to book at Horseshoe. It now recognizes the WSOP25 discount code but when I applied it, it said 'no rooms available' for the dates I specified. Their rate calender showed very few days for which that discount applied. WTF? When I removed that discount code the rooms became available for the dates I specified. I was 'experiment booking' to see what the rates are looking like. Is it just too early to apply that discount code or are they just being stingy on dates they know will be in demand? Haven't seen this before.
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01-09-2025 , 12:28 AM
I see the same thing. Probably a temporary limitation on the dates/properties for which the code is valid.

Realistically, the WSOPXX discount codes have never not been totally useless for me. I don't blame anyone for playing around with them and checking the numbers, but Caesars always seems to have some type of "sale" running by default and I've always gotten a better rate simply by using the automatic default codes.
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01-09-2025 , 01:21 AM
Any predictions on when the Day 1's of the Colossus will be?
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01-09-2025 , 01:31 AM
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Any predictions on when the Day 1's of the Colossus will be?
IMO

6/27
6/28
6/29
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01-10-2025 , 07:58 PM
For what it's worth, WSOP is saying that the full schedule will be released by the end of February. I think it's funny that they say "As always", but whatever.

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01-13-2025 , 05:36 AM
i hope they release schedule way before the last week of feb personally.
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01-13-2025 , 10:24 AM
It’s sad to see how inactive the WSOP management is. Either they don’t care for their customers demand & expectations or they are thinking that WSOP is there because of them.
WSOP is there because of 1000’s & 1000’s players. If they don’t have the job they have , no corporation will hire them for what ever skill they have.

For years players are demanding “Please give us details and dates for important events in December or early January so we can plan our travel and get our leave approved from work”

If this demand/expectation is new then we can understand. But this is every year.
The WSOP management can’t find time since July 2024 ( End of 2024 WSOP) to plan for December/ January schedule plan to satisfy their customers!!

WSOP is that scared of other competitors series that they hide their face in sand ?
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01-13-2025 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by the pleasure
i hope they release schedule way before the last week of feb personally.
I am hoping that they will release a very preliminary schedule of the events with big field appeal by, or soon after, the end of this month -- January. That would go far in solidifying our travel plans. I think they've done that in years past.
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01-13-2025 , 06:01 PM
Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but if you’re looking for a longer stay I may be in need of a roommate

Solid location about 5 min uber ride ($10 each way) last time I was there. They don’t have a ton of availability so if I can’t get a 1br I’ll be looking to get a 2br. Would be $1300ish each per month. Full kitchen, laundry, pool, gym, utilities included.

Rough dates for me will be May 15 - July 15. DM for more details
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01-13-2025 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by riverph7
It’s sad to see how inactive the WSOP management is. Either they don’t care for their customers demand & expectations or they are thinking that WSOP is there because of them.
WSOP is there because of 1000’s & 1000’s players. If they don’t have the job they have , no corporation will hire them for what ever skill they have.

For years players are demanding “Please give us details and dates for important events in December or early January so we can plan our travel and get our leave approved from work”

If this demand/expectation is new then we can understand. But this is every year.
The WSOP management can’t find time since July 2024 ( End of 2024 WSOP) to plan for December/ January schedule plan to satisfy their customers!!

WSOP is that scared of other competitors series that they hide their face in sand ?
I don’t think anyone comes to Las Vegas thinking oh what other series are running ! All the players will play other series only if they are not playing WSOP event and nothing exciting and within their budget being offered at WSOP. ( Which is never a case)

For me , I 99% of the time play WSOP dailies if has a free day. Unless there is really great offerings from any casinos.

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01-13-2025 , 10:51 PM
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I don’t think anyone comes to Las Vegas thinking oh what other series are running !
I do!

Don't get me wrong, the WSOP is always the centerpiece of my June and July trips. However, I'm also extremely interested in what else is out there. The WSOP schedule has more gaps than you're implying. There are going to be days where there's nothing appealing to play. There have been a few years when I've happened to be there during seniors week, and that's an especially bad time if you aren't eligible for those tournaments. They eat up a lot of schedule and floor space.

Last year my split of 18 June and July events was 10 for WSOP-adjacent and 8 for all other venues. I definitely favor the WSOP on days when they're running good events in my price and variant range. In the low stakes space, I found the Resorts World daily tournaments to be superior to the Daily Deepstacks last year (lower rake, shorter lines, 9 vs. 10-handed). I'll probably go off-site for most "daily" type tournaments again in 2025.

Beyond that, the Wynn is the poker capitol of Las Vegas in 2025. Any time I have an opportunity to fit a Wynn multi-day into my schedule, I'm going to be very interested. The venue has good pull with local regs and foreigners. They don't do WSOP numbers, but their summer multi-day events will often do 2-3k entries.
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01-14-2025 , 01:07 AM
I find it pretty baffling that the WSOP takes so long to release its schedule. It just seems like bad business to me.

Let's compare it to Wimbledon, a super high end tournament. Wimbledon has its dates set for the 2025, 2026 and 2027 tournaments already. https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/atoz/dates.html

Let's compare it to college basketball/March Madness. The Final Four has its sites set for 2025-2031. Six years in advance!!!!!! Even preliminary round dates are set years in advance. https://www.ncaa.com/mens-final-four/future-info

Whatever the negatives are in releasing dates years in advance for the WSOP seem inconsequential compared to the benefits, which first and foremost would be greater turnout if people are able to make their reservations earlier than late February for a summer series.
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01-14-2025 , 01:45 AM
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Good to hear that - The rooms themselves are huge and I was lucky for all the years mine were always clean -just thread bare the last couple. The casino itself was a dark nasty dive for at least the last 3 years.
The Rio rooms still have some of the old cabinetry, which still look worn. I think their plan was to replace things in phases, the easier stuff first and built-ins later.
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01-14-2025 , 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by DogFace
I stayed at the Gold Coast in 2018 (my first WSOP trip) and 2021 (the last WSOP at the Rio). I enjoyed the no frills old school vibe there. Perfectly decent place to stay if you have a car. Now that the WSOP is on the strip, I prefer to stay somewhere closer since I am always carless in Vegas. Horsehoe, Harrah's, LINQ, Flamingo, and Ellis Island have been some of my stays in the last few summers. All are fine. However, if I ever win a bracelet or make a final table at the WSOP, I might have to hit Ping Pang Pong in Gold Coast for my celebration dinner. That was always my late night spot after cashing tournaments at the Rio (usually some rinky-dink daily deepstack tournament).
Geez, after a daily deepstack cash? How late were they open?
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01-14-2025 , 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by rppoker
I find it pretty baffling that the WSOP takes so long to release its schedule. It just seems like bad business to me.

Let's compare it to Wimbledon, a super high end tournament. Wimbledon has its dates set for the 2025, 2026 and 2027 tournaments already. https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/atoz/dates.html

Let's compare it to college basketball/March Madness. The Final Four has its sites set for 2025-2031. Six years in advance!!!!!! Even preliminary round dates are set years in advance. https://www.ncaa.com/mens-final-four/future-info

Whatever the negatives are in releasing dates years in advance for the WSOP seem inconsequential compared to the benefits, which first and foremost would be greater turnout if people are able to make their reservations earlier than late February for a summer series.
Sorry but these are absolutely terrible comparisons. It's worse than apples to oranges. It's more like comparing apples to unicorns. It just doesn't make sense to compare the two at all.
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01-14-2025 , 02:23 AM
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Geez, after a daily deepstack cash? How late were they open?
Google says they are open until 3AM. That sounds about right.

Had some late nights in there going hard on the rice and chicken.

Subsequently I have become a reg at Grand Lux Cafe in Venetian and Palazzo. Have had many late night post-tournament feasts there.
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01-14-2025 , 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by rppoker
I find it pretty baffling that the WSOP takes so long to release its schedule. It just seems like bad business to me.

Let's compare it to Wimbledon, a super high end tournament. Wimbledon has its dates set for the 2025, 2026 and 2027 tournaments already. https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/atoz/dates.html

Let's compare it to college basketball/March Madness. The Final Four has its sites set for 2025-2031. Six years in advance!!!!!! Even preliminary round dates are set years in advance. https://www.ncaa.com/mens-final-four/future-info

Whatever the negatives are in releasing dates years in advance for the WSOP seem inconsequential compared to the benefits, which first and foremost would be greater turnout if people are able to make their reservations earlier than late February for a summer series.
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Sorry but these are absolutely terrible comparisons. It's worse than apples to oranges. It's more like comparing apples to unicorns. It just doesn't make sense to compare the two at all.
I would not consider college basketball ( with so many different divisions and colleges involved) apples to unicorn comparison.

The argument is a multi billion $$ public company can’t handle next year’s schedule and or at least dates for 10 most important and crowd popular tournaments is hard to believe.
Only one thing it proves that big thick skin management is living in their fake satisfaction of WSOP success.

I know beginning of WSOP upwards success story is dedicated to success of year 2003 ,Chris Moneymaker year.

But actually it started 5 years earlier in 1998 when an unknown nonwhite casino kitchen worker Scotty Nguyen came from no where and won Main Event.
It started flood of new players to noticing glory of poker & big $$. Even at the time $10000 was still a Big Big money for 99% of poker playing individuals..

Between 1998 and 2003 , jump in attendance was whooping 140% ( From 350 to 839) . No one has ever heard of any winners of Main events between 1998-2003. ( Furlong, Ferguson,Montensen , Varkonyi and Moneymaker )

After 2003 we all know the story. From 839 in 2003 to 2576 in 2004. WSOP has transformed itself as uncontested and unstoppable winner of Poker.

Yes , marketing by corporate Caesars deserves some pat in the back.
But for them to ignore players and just party in their own glory is wrong.

I bet you , if they bring a bright young MBA , will give you schedules for 3 year at a time like college basketball.

Last edited by riverph7; 01-14-2025 at 09:41 AM. Reason: .
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01-14-2025 , 10:30 AM
Maybe there’s an added layer of internal red tape this year.

Example GG poker knows what it would like to schedule and when - but b/c they are not directly tied into Caesar’s systems, etc., perhaps there’s additional roadblocks to get through than there normally is.

I’m not speaking about the full schedule, but instead about the weekend/dates of signature events. (Monster Stack, Seniors, Millionaire Maker, Colossus, etc.)

Just guessing here of course
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01-14-2025 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DogFace
I do!

Don't get me wrong, the WSOP is always the centerpiece of my June and July trips. However, I'm also extremely interested in what else is out there. The WSOP schedule has more gaps than you're implying. There are going to be days where there's nothing appealing to play. There have been a few years when I've happened to be there during seniors week, and that's an especially bad time if you aren't eligible for those tournaments. They eat up a lot of schedule and floor space.

Last year my split of 18 June and July events was 10 for WSOP-adjacent and 8 for all other venues. I definitely favor the WSOP on days when they're running good events in my price and variant range. In the low stakes space, I found the Resorts World daily tournaments to be superior to the Daily Deepstacks last year (lower rake, shorter lines, 9 vs. 10-handed). I'll probably go off-site for most "daily" type tournaments again in 2025.

Beyond that, the Wynn is the poker capitol of Las Vegas in 2025. Any time I have an opportunity to fit a Wynn multi-day into my schedule, I'm going to be very interested. The venue has good pull with local regs and foreigners. They don't do WSOP numbers, but their summer multi-day events will often do 2-3k entries.
Where do they set up tables for those big events?

The bad thing about Wynn for me is I want to stay where I'm playing most of my events. I'm not friggin staying at Wynn for a week.

Plus, the cash games are a pure no-go for me. The one or 2 times I tried to play 1/3 there I got crushed in a NY minute.
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01-14-2025 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by rppoker
I find it pretty baffling that the WSOP takes so long to release its schedule. It just seems like bad business to me.

Let's compare it to Wimbledon, a super high end tournament. Wimbledon has its dates set for the 2025, 2026 and 2027 tournaments already. https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/atoz/dates.html

Let's compare it to college basketball/March Madness. The Final Four has its sites set for 2025-2031. Six years in advance!!!!!! Even preliminary round dates are set years in advance. https://www.ncaa.com/mens-final-four/future-info

Whatever the negatives are in releasing dates years in advance for the WSOP seem inconsequential compared to the benefits, which first and foremost would be greater turnout if people are able to make their reservations earlier than late February for a summer series.
Tennis has 1 game - tennis. Basketball has 1 game - basketball. They don't have to mix and match different games like WSOP and decide where the interest flows and how to maximize their entries.
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01-14-2025 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DogFace
Google says they are open until 3AM. That sounds about right.

Had some late nights in there going hard on the rice and chicken.

Subsequently I have become a reg at Grand Lux Cafe in Venetian and Palazzo. Have had many late night post-tournament feasts there.
I was usually too tired after a Deepstack to travel. Which was particularly unfortunate in the Rio, which had no late night food at all. I always had to get a gift shop muffin or gas station sandwich.
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01-14-2025 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
Tennis has 1 game - tennis. Basketball has 1 game - basketball. They don't have to mix and match different games like WSOP and decide where the interest flows and how to maximize their entries.
I understand wide range of Poker variation being offered at WSOP. But if you think about there is only 1 or 2 new thing every year. Most of the events are cut and paste work.

But you think if WSOP is allowed to take time and delay every year announcement, I am not going to argue and create a controversy. Ok I accept!

This was just my observation and a creative criticism of inefficient corporate leadership.


But task of basketball scheduling is not a piece of cake !

There are 350 colleges competing in 32 divisions! I think it’s way much harder job than scheduling of WSOP.

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