I was thinking about playing some of those during the last (or 2nd to last week) of the WSOP. How late are we talking about that the Aria $600 gets done?

Speaking of lines, early in the Series the line for that can be brutal. A couple years ago I had to do that stupid covid verification, so I was there at 6 a.m. The CC verification line at 6 a.m. was plenty long too.

I didn’t see anything like that last year, but to be fair, I didn’t pay super close attention.

I played in one of those years ago before it got bought and remodeled. I swear, they were using original chips from the 50's and 60's. You could probably get 22 of them in a rack, they were so thin.

Nights and vampire hours are the best time for no lines.

You could be waiting 2 or more hours if you breeze in the morning of the event you want to play.

Anyone else notice that WSOP satellites will have a new format -- Landmark satellites? For a 10% type satellite, the instant you accumulate a stack 10x the starting stack you win your seat and your chips are removed from play.

I hate this. I hate it hate it hate it. I thought of playing a satellite for the Main Event. Screw that idea. Here's what O'Kearney thinks of this new format:

https://www.vegasslotsonline.com/new...ne-satellites/

I think it favors the aggro's, bluffians, and sharks. If you are the average rec player you won't stand much of a chance, in my opinion.

Wynn and Venetian have been running the milestone satellites for a while.

In my limited experience, they are an interesting alternative and provide some new strategic wrinkles. Maybe they favor stronger players more than traditional satellites, but keep in mind that as soon as someone hits the milestone, that player is removed from the tournament. In that sense the fields actually get easier in the later stages.

Yeah, I don't think I've ever had 10x the starting stack in any the satties I've won.

O’Kearney makes some interesting points. As a non satellite-player myself, I don’t have a strong opinion on the milestone format. I do wonder, though, whether the format makes for faster satellites in general. If it does, then there is the reason for why it will not only be a variant, but become the standard.

Venues are always looking to make more money, and there are poker influencers who are happy to make a little extra money themselves at the behest of venues. Whenever new variants are created with supposed benefits, it is almost always possible to find an equal number of warts. IMO, when a new variant seems like a solution in search of a problem, then the actual problem is likely to be on the venue’s side, not the players’.

Here is O'Kearney's main point;

"A big negative of Milestone Satellites is that they favor superior players and can be off-putting to amateur players. They favor a more aggressive chip accumulation strategy, which on the surface sounds like a good thing, but in our opinion betrays one of the big promises of satellites. A satellite should always be about getting weaker, amateur, players into big ‘bucket list’ type events. While the slow, stalling, chip preservation strategy that is required in satellites may seem against the spirit of the game, it is one that a relatively new player can adopt successfully. Our question to you if you don’t like regular satellites is, don’t you want weaker players in the target events? Stalling seems like a bug in satellites, but we would say they are a feature."

Looking forward to the WSOP. Plan on starting with the $600 PLO the second week of June, then the $800 NL. Then it's down to business, with the Monster, the Seniors if I bust the Monster, then the Millionaire Maker. If that goes belly up, there's always the Super Seniors before going home, and possibly the Seniors high roller if I'm not completely blown out after two weeks.

Re: Milestone satellites would love to know if they are shorter to conclusion than non-milestone satellites. I would think yes, and if that's true, I would expect universal adoption because operators spend less money for the same rake.

Apologies if this isn't the right place for these noob questions:

I'm thinking about playing some WSOP events for the first time and am pretty clueless about how to do so. I've only been to Vegas once.

Where do you go to register for a tournament? On the day of the tournament, how do you get your chips/table/seat?

Where do you recommend staying? Is it cheaper to stay at a different hotel than the Horseshoe and to take an Uber?

The main cage is in a big room in the Paris convention center next to the giant ballroom where most of the tourneys happen.

The cage opens for registration at the start of WSOP, and is open 24 hours. The worst time to register is in the morning of a large field or weekend event. You might be in line for 2 hours.

The lines are much better after dinner, and even better on graveyard hours.

When you register, you’ll get a slip of receipt paper with your name, table number, and seat number. You find your seat, match your ID, and the dealer will give you your chips out of the well.

Where to stay is a complicated question, but the good news is there’s no shortage of hotels, or options. I’m staying almost 3 weeks, so I got an Airbnb, which is much cheaper than a strip hotel with resort fees. I won’t have a car, but I have no trouble getting around with Uber.

The above post is spot on with some of your questions.

As for where to stay, that depends on what your situation is. Are you only playing WSOP events or are you going to other tournaments at other casinos? Are eating options important to you? Are you looking for any old place where you can sleep or do you have higher standards?

If you’re thinking of going cheap and staying close to WSOP, probably Ellis Island is your best bet. It’s cheap and walking distance.

If you’re thinking cheap and might be playing downtown at The Grand Series at Golden Nugget, I would recommend Four Queens as it is cheap and no resort fees. But very old and smells of cigarettes.

If you want pure strip and close to WSOP for cheap, Flamingo is an option.

If only WSOP and you don’t want the stress of any travel, HS isn’t bad and Paris isn’t bad, either. Take an elevator down and you’re basically at the WSOP.

So again, it depends on your situation, your budget, and your standards.

For those planning to drive/Uber into the WSOP, don’t forget to plan ahead for traffic. I assume that area willonce again be a **** show at various times due to F1 and other construction.

F1 is coming back again?

Yes. 10 year contract.

Thank you for taking the time to respond, very helpful!

Thank you!

Additionally you can register via App, but I think they have a new one this year so don’t know how it will work yet.

“…. but I think they have a new one this year so don’t know how it will work..”

that means WSOP will be using different system for online pre-registration other then BravoLive.

May be I missed that announcement from WSOP.

Can someone post some details or link ?

Thx

For more discussion on places to stay in Vegas, check out LVL. The FAQ thread is very useful.

It’s WSOP+ but no word yet if they’ll use it this Summer. They used it at Paradise, though.

https://pokerfuse.com/news/live-and-...t-return-wsop/