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02-29-2024 , 04:48 PM
It was Colossus 1B. I busted quickly in Paris, went to Horseshoe, waited in line, rebought, and was seated without losing much time off the play clock.
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03-01-2024 , 02:05 AM
Structures are up!!
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03-01-2024 , 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Clavain
I'm remembering one large field tournament last year where they had some issues (dealer shortage I think it was) and one room ended up behind the other by something like an hour. Can't remember which event it was since I wasn't playing it myself, but I heard the stories about what a cluster it was.
Yeah there was one event that this happened because they didnt have enough dealers at the start so one room got started while the other waited. They got it even by extending breaks/dinner break.
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03-01-2024 , 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
That's a huge exaggeration.
Yeah, the diamond line benefit (like so many other things at CET) isn’t what it used to be. There are, of course, many more diamond holders now than there used to be. But the main reason is because there are just more ways to register now. I highly recommend folks set up a TBIC account when they arrive at the WSOP. The process is fairly painless. Then you can use those funds to register for any even using the Bravo Poker app/website. You post a $3 fee by this is well worth it IMO.

Be aware you can deposit as many times as you want to the TBIC account, but may only withdraw once. At least this was the case last year. This is kinda annoying, but makes some sense from a logistical standpoint for the WSOP.

And if registering the old-fashioned way, the old advice about going later at night (after 7 or 8 pm), or really early in the AM still holds. Of course, some of these events get into alternates well before play even starts so plan accordingly. And there will be massive registration lines the week of the 24th during those lower buy-in events, so plan accordingly.

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Originally Posted by pig4bill
It's gone downhill since the Eldorado takeover. Last time I stayed there apparently someone had stolen the clock and it wasn't replaced. The bench for the end of the bed was also missing.
Someone may have stolen the clock in your case, but HS got rid of clocks in all rooms a couple years ago. Beats me why they felt the need to do this, but it certainly wasn’t because they were too busy in the past setting the accurate time on them

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One thing for sure is much better than Rio. You don't have the thumpa thumpa from da club all night long.
This is heavily dependent on where your room is. Overall, things seem to be quieter since after Covid. But I imagine there are still some bad spots. I remember years ago getting a room facing Paris. Absolutely beautiful view. But man, the Chateau or whatever that club is was so bad till 4:00am 4 nights a week. There is also a night club (Drais) on the roof of The Cromwell which could be pretty loud at times.

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I think it's on purpose because CET is so cheap. They're saving money on electricity, plus wear and tear on the mechanicals.
Yeah, I’m sure this is their excuse. But it’s crazy how many problems it causes. Not to mention fire and congestion hazards. Just run all the dang elevators during the busiest times. It shouldn’t be that difficult a task.

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Originally Posted by Clavain
I'm remembering one large field tournament last year where they had some issues (dealer shortage I think it was) and one room ended up behind the other by something like an hour. Can't remember which event it was since I wasn't playing it myself, but I heard the stories about what a cluster it was.
I don’t recall if it was strictly a dealer shortage, but maybe I am mixing up events. There was one event where the HS elevators stopped working altogether about 30 minutes before the start of an event. That event was delayed by an hour or so.

As an anecdote, I was staying on floor 22 once when the elevators went out. There was no indication how long they would be out and I had someplace to be so I decided to go down the stairs. I descended about as fast as humanly possible without hurting myself, but it still took a surprisingly long time (like at least 5 minutes). And I paid for it with really sore hamstrings for a few days. As much as I complain about the elevator situation at HS, I don’t think complete outages like this are common. But who knows. The “C” is CET probably refers to the increasing number of corners they cut.
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03-01-2024 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by FattyMcFat
Structures are up!!
Strangely they currently are only showing the structures thru June 11th events at least on the full schedule link https://www.wsop.com/tournaments/

Did you see the entire WSOP structures elsewhere ?
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03-01-2024 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RealMcCoy
Strangely they currently are only showing the structures thru June 11th events at least on the full schedule link https://www.wsop.com/tournaments/

Did you see the entire WSOP structures elsewhere ?
I didn’t realize only half of the structures were up. At least we have something.

Hopefully the other properties release their schedules and structures soon.
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03-01-2024 , 12:55 PM
Does anyone has some experience staying at Harrah’s during WSOP? They gave me a very good deal for 2 weeks. How do I get to the Paris/HS walking, uber or monorail? Any other Problems at Harrah’s? thx
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03-01-2024 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RealMcCoy
Strangely they currently are only showing the structures thru June 11th events at least on the full schedule link https://www.wsop.com/tournaments/

Did you see the entire WSOP structures elsewhere ?
Same here, only the first 30 events of the 99 events have the structure available now. I don't think the rest are posted anywhere else publicly as of now.
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03-01-2024 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by phil8700
Does anyone has some experience staying at Harrah’s during WSOP? They gave me a very good deal for 2 weeks. How do I get to the Paris/HS walking, uber or monorail? Any other Problems at Harrah’s? thx
Leave Harrahs through the southern-most doors on the strip, walk ~30 ft. of sidewalk and enter Linq. Repeat for leaving Linq, entering Flamingo.

While in Flamingo, locate check-in desk/valet area and exit those doors. Walk the short distance behind Cromwell and you'll be at a crosswalk for Flamingo Rd.

Wait for the light...don't jaywalk! Cars come through there deceptively fast.

After crossing street walk up to front doors of Horseshoe and enter.

Will take ~15 minutes with casual pace, minimal exposure to summer heat.
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03-01-2024 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by akashenk
Yeah, the diamond line benefit (like so many other things at CET) isn’t what it used to be. There are, of course, many more diamond holders now than there used to be. But the main reason is because there are just more ways to register now. I highly recommend folks set up a TBIC account when they arrive at the WSOP. The process is fairly painless. Then you can use those funds to register for any even using the Bravo Poker app/website. You post a $3 fee by this is well worth it IMO.

Be aware you can deposit as many times as you want to the TBIC account, but may only withdraw once. At least this was the case last year. This is kinda annoying, but makes some sense from a logistical standpoint for the WSOP.

And if registering the old-fashioned way, the old advice about going later at night (after 7 or 8 pm), or really early in the AM still holds. Of course, some of these events get into alternates well before play even starts so plan accordingly. And there will be massive registration lines the week of the 24th during those lower buy-in events, so plan accordingly.



Someone may have stolen the clock in your case, but HS got rid of clocks in all rooms a couple years ago. Beats me why they felt the need to do this, but it certainly wasn’t because they were too busy in the past setting the accurate time on them



This is heavily dependent on where your room is. Overall, things seem to be quieter since after Covid. But I imagine there are still some bad spots. I remember years ago getting a room facing Paris. Absolutely beautiful view. But man, the Chateau or whatever that club is was so bad till 4:00am 4 nights a week. There is also a night club (Drais) on the roof of The Cromwell which could be pretty loud at times.



Yeah, I’m sure this is their excuse. But it’s crazy how many problems it causes. Not to mention fire and congestion hazards. Just run all the dang elevators during the busiest times. It shouldn’t be that difficult a task.



I don’t recall if it was strictly a dealer shortage, but maybe I am mixing up events. There was one event where the HS elevators stopped working altogether about 30 minutes before the start of an event. That event was delayed by an hour or so.

As an anecdote, I was staying on floor 22 once when the elevators went out. There was no indication how long they would be out and I had someplace to be so I decided to go down the stairs. I descended about as fast as humanly possible without hurting myself, but it still took a surprisingly long time (like at least 5 minutes). And I paid for it with really sore hamstrings for a few days. As much as I complain about the elevator situation at HS, I don’t think complete outages like this are common. But who knows. The “C” is CET probably refers to the increasing number of corners they cut.
Seems they’ve closed a bunch of the loopholes to getting Diamond status, including no longer working with Founder’s Card. That alone should drastically reduce the number of Diamond members and will, hopefully, make the benefits for the remaining Diamond people increase to what they once were.

The FC thing just happened, though, so I’m not sure if that will translate to better Diamond lines this year or if it won’t be noticeable until next year.
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03-01-2024 , 03:01 PM
Does anyone know what the fee was for buying into an event with a credit or debit card at the cage? I play in 3-5 small events each year and I always pay cash, but I'm not a fan of carrying around that much cash and it seems like there has to be a better way.

I remember someone told me about using the APP and I forgot why I didn't go that route last year.
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03-01-2024 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 2RedCards
Leave Harrahs through the southern-most doors on the strip, walk ~30 ft. of sidewalk and enter Linq. Repeat for leaving Linq, entering Flamingo.

While in Flamingo, locate check-in desk/valet area and exit those doors. Walk the short distance behind Cromwell and you'll be at a crosswalk for Flamingo Rd.

Wait for the light...don't jaywalk! Cars come through there deceptively fast.

After crossing street walk up to front doors of Horseshoe and enter.

Will take ~15 minutes with casual pace, minimal exposure to summer heat.
The only real "hot" spot on that route is the crosswalk between the Cromwell and HS. That light can require a 1-2 min wait and it only allows crossing for about 30 second. So you can't necessarily wait inside the Crowell valet door, unless you are prepared to move pretty quick. You can wait in the valet area in the shade, but it's still hot since it's outdoors. Be aware for anybody with significant heat sensitivity.

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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
Does anyone know what the fee was for buying into an event with a credit or debit card at the cage? I play in 3-5 small events each year and I always pay cash, but I'm not a fan of carrying around that much cash and it seems like there has to be a better way.

I remember someone told me about using the APP and I forgot why I didn't go that route last year.
According to the link below (which has lots of additional details), it's

"... 2.95%/3.95% depending on the card issuer. For international credit and debit cards (Visa, MasterCard, or Discover), there will be a 3.50% fee, in addition to the $3 processing fee for each transaction."

https://www.wsop.com/registration/
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03-01-2024 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by CA514
Many thanks for your reply, .. really helpful, in fact, that is what I thought about sea of humans moving during the break, I would assume that day 3 will be one of the busiest throughout the whole series. I walk fast, really fast when there is sapce, I would assume many people will still want to use elevators during the break though, but it is better than nothing. I also dont mind missing the last 2 or 3 hands right before the break sometimes, and if necessary.
I believe that most big field event day one's begin at Paris, then move to the Horseshoe.
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03-01-2024 , 06:23 PM
All structures are up now.
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03-01-2024 , 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
Does anyone know what the fee was for buying into an event with a credit or debit card at the cage? I play in 3-5 small events each year and I always pay cash, but I'm not a fan of carrying around that much cash and it seems like there has to be a better way.

I remember someone told me about using the APP and I forgot why I didn't go that route last year.
Consider doing a wire transfer to the WSOP - it was ran thru a Paris contact last year and only costs you the Wire transfer fee say $30 from your bank. Depending on how much you would charge it could be a fair savings.

Haven't seen this years instructions but it was a fairly simple process to set up last year. Just confirm your identity when you arrive and then go to the cages to use the buyin. Note the funds are usable for WSOP events only so its not a great option for playing serious cash games. They will wire your remaining funds or cash you out (typically) at the end of your stay.
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03-02-2024 , 04:50 AM
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I’m not going to tell you what you should do as interactions with Caesar’s booking system and reservation personnel is not a consistent thing. And the rates are constantly changing. Maybe it would be better to just keep things as they are and try a different way next time. But if I were trying to book 24 nights (or thereabouts) and maximize my comps, I would book 11 nights using my CR account and whatever discount promo there is (usually WSOP). Then skip 2 nights. And then book the remaining nights using the CR account and discount code. Lastly I would book the two nights in between without using my CR account.

There is a price to pay for this in that those two nights may be more expensive than they would otherwise be and you’ll pay about $100 more total for resort fees. So you have to figure out if the comps you get in that second leg are worth the extra cost. But if they are, and you make all three reservations at the same property, it should be seamless when you check in and can stay in the same room for the entire trip. Just make sure the counter agent knows you have three contiguous reservations. There was a time during Covid where they had this stupid policy of you having to go to the front desk to “check in” three separate times. But that is no longer the case, at least when I was there last summer.

Lastly, just to point out how CET has gotten demonstrably worse in recent years… this whole comp reset process is not as beneficial as it once was. Everybody’s comps and rates are customized based on their gaming rating, so I am only speaking from personal experience. But I have found the difference between comped nights and non comped nights to have really dwindled (typically as little as $15-25). So if you’re only saving the small amount, you have to have a lot of comps to make up for the increased rate and resort fees for those two “reset” nights. Also resort fees have nearly doubled in the last 5 years or so. So again, this “trick” is not nearly as useful as it once was. As an example, two years ago I booked 28 nights and there was no benefit to using the trick.
Yes, probably the cheapest way, especially on weekends, is to just move to a non-casino hotel for 2 days, like maybe Embassy Suites, that doesn't have a resort fee.
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03-02-2024 , 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by WSOPeddie
https://www.pokernews.com/tours/wsop...satellites.htm

"Landmark satellites are new for 2024, and they will award players a seat once they reach a predetermined amount of chips.".
So rather than surviving to say the top 10% of the starting field, you are awarded a seat as soon as you build your stack to a certain level. 10x the starting stack for a 10% satellite? This is new to me. I wonder about the strategy ramifications.
Thanks.

Sounds like it's going to promote aggressiveness.
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03-02-2024 , 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by akashenk
Yeah, the diamond line benefit (like so many other things at CET) isn’t what it used to be. There are, of course, many more diamond holders now than there used to be. But the main reason is because there are just more ways to register now. I highly recommend folks set up a TBIC account when they arrive at the WSOP. The process is fairly painless. Then you can use those funds to register for any even using the Bravo Poker app/website. You post a $3 fee by this is well worth it IMO.

Be aware you can deposit as many times as you want to the TBIC account, but may only withdraw once. At least this was the case last year. This is kinda annoying, but makes some sense from a logistical standpoint for the WSOP.

And if registering the old-fashioned way, the old advice about going later at night (after 7 or 8 pm), or really early in the AM still holds. Of course, some of these events get into alternates well before play even starts so plan accordingly. And there will be massive registration lines the week of the 24th during those lower buy-in events, so plan accordingly.
That sure would be more convenient for rebuys. I don't have a smart phone though. Please don't ask why.

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Someone may have stolen the clock in your case, but HS got rid of clocks in all rooms a couple years ago. Beats me why they felt the need to do this, but it certainly wasn’t because they were too busy in the past setting the accurate time on them
Probably because some pencilneck in accounting figured out they could save $10,000 a year in electricity by removing them.
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03-02-2024 , 10:58 AM
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Probably because some pencilneck in accounting figured out they could save $10,000 a year in electricity by removing them.
Yeah, they got rid of a lot of appliances like coffee makers and some rooms even used to have microwaves. One of the maintenances folks told me they had many hundreds of them sitting in a storage space.
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03-02-2024 , 11:53 AM
i know this is a long shot, but......

i'm looking for 1 or more players who may be driving to/from WSOP 2024 from texas and wanting to stay around 2 weeks or so. i am driving out there due to fear of flying & medical issues, and need another person(s) to drive with. i (42m) will be staying with a buddy of mine (25m), at horseshoe. we are chill, no partying on the strip, no slots/pits, just focus on poker during trip like real poker junkies. we have gone for a few years now and really enjoy the series. mostly cash players, with some tournaments mixed in. if you want to room with us, that would make it cheaper for everyone (if not, that's cool).

i have made the drive for many years now. it's a 2-day drive, ~10 hours per day. but maybe can make it a super long 1-day drive with myself and 1 or 2 more people to split driving. obviously we would need to meet beforehand, make sure we get along. will be using my vehicle (roomy, nice 4-door truck). i will eat most gas expenses, since this would primarily be accommodating me.

right now, looking at leaving ~May 29-returning ~June 12. but can be flexible. PM me if interested. looking to get booked soon.
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03-03-2024 , 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by akashenk
I’m not going to tell you what you should do as interactions with Caesar’s booking system and reservation personnel is not a consistent thing. And the rates are constantly changing. Maybe it would be better to just keep things as they are and try a different way next time. But if I were trying to book 24 nights (or thereabouts) and maximize my comps, I would book 11 nights using my CR account and whatever discount promo there is (usually WSOP). Then skip 2 nights. And then book the remaining nights using the CR account and discount code. Lastly I would book the two nights in between without using my CR account.

There is a price to pay for this in that those two nights may be more expensive than they would otherwise be and you’ll pay about $100 more total for resort fees. So you have to figure out if the comps you get in that second leg are worth the extra cost. But if they are, and you make all three reservations at the same property, it should be seamless when you check in and can stay in the same room for the entire trip. Just make sure the counter agent knows you have three contiguous reservations. There was a time during Covid where they had this stupid policy of you having to go to the front desk to “check in” three separate times. But that is no longer the case, at least when I was there last summer.

Lastly, just to point out how CET has gotten demonstrably worse in recent years… this whole comp reset process is not as beneficial as it once was. Everybody’s comps and rates are customized based on their gaming rating, so I am only speaking from personal experience. But I have found the difference between comped nights and non comped nights to have really dwindled (typically as little as $15-25). So if you’re only saving the small amount, you have to have a lot of comps to make up for the increased rate and resort fees for those two “reset” nights. Also resort fees have nearly doubled in the last 5 years or so. So again, this “trick” is not nearly as useful as it once was. As an example, two years ago I booked 28 nights and there was no benefit to using the trick.
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Originally Posted by RealMcCoy
Stringer - Akashenk has laid it out very well. I will add that calling direct to the Horseshoe can also at times give you the best deal. I personally have ran into the 48 hour issues when booking online and opt for 72 hours. Checking often can be key to getting the best deal as Asashenk notes as rates are constantly changing and whether it is accurate or not I have read several accounts that this partially can be a browser cache issue on your own computer so clearing it MAY be an option. Always try online AND direct call. Anecdotally as an example I recently ADDED June 17th to my existing 18th -28th online reservation by calling the Horseshoe and they LOWERED my Grand total cost from $315 to $259 but my costs from July 1-11th remained unchanged at $274. Some consider it to be a frustrating process but I just treat it as a game giving me that much more funds to lose gaming Good luck


Akashenk and Real McCoy - many thanks for your thorough and super helpful replies. I thought I would update on the outcome so far in case it helps others.

I cancelled my second Paris reservation and then have tries several times to book 2 additional reservations (on top of my part comped first reservation). No joy as prices a fair bit higher and no comps. So have currently booked Vdara for second half and will keep an eye on Paris prices. Thanks again guys for the advice.
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03-03-2024 , 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by StringerBell888
Akashenk and Real McCoy - many thanks for your thorough and super helpful replies. I thought I would update on the outcome so far in case it helps others.

I cancelled my second Paris reservation and then have tries several times to book 2 additional reservations (on top of my part comped first reservation). No joy as prices a fair bit higher and no comps. So have currently booked Vdara for second half and will keep an eye on Paris prices. Thanks again guys for the advice.
Good luck. CET certainly doesn’t make it easy to just get the best rates possible. You have to dig quite a bit. This isn’t reserved for CET, or any company, of course. Just look at the tax code.

FWIW, I wouldn’t sleep on completing your plans sooner rather than later. You might even try calling in and telling them you cancelled your second leg by accident and seeing if that gets you anywhere.

I have always stayed at HS (formerly Ballys) during the WSOP. And given the generally slow time of year in Vegas, and back when the WSOP was at the Rio, it seemed like there was a decent chance that prices would come down at some point as it got closer to the event itself. That wasn’t the case last year and it’s not looking like it this year. Summer isn’t as slow as it used to be, and the event being held at HS has definitely made things more expensive to stay there. In an ideal world (for me), they would move the event to Caesars, or even better, the new Forum convention space.
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03-03-2024 , 12:54 PM
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In an ideal world (for me), they would move the event to Caesars, or even better, the new Forum convention space.
Caesars couldn't accommodate the WSOP, the combined area of the 3 large rooms at Paris and Horseshoe is 50% more than the two large Caesars rooms. The Forum would be interesting though. Its two ballrooms are next to each other, and would represent about a 30% increase in space. It's convenient to the Flamingo, Linq, and Harrah's, and not too bad from the Venetian or Horseshoe, plus easy access from the Linq/Harrah's monorail station, and has its own parking garage. Downside is that there's no option to stay anywhere that would allow you to avoid going outside for a bit or getting to your room during a 20 minute break.
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03-03-2024 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
Does anyone know what the fee was for buying into an event with a credit or debit card at the cage? I play in 3-5 small events each year and I always pay cash, but I'm not a fan of carrying around that much cash and it seems like there has to be a better way.

I remember someone told me about using the APP and I forgot why I didn't go that route last year.
Don't use an American Express card. They take the biggest bite/charge, something like 3%.
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03-03-2024 , 02:00 PM
OK, so here's the next question. When will BravoPokerLive open for WSOP event registrations? My notes indicate that last time is was April 13th. No reason to expect anything much different this time. I guess I am the fool in a hurry to part with his money.

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