FYI the ugly rumor that there is a VIP/Diamond line for payouts is FALSE.

Same old same old.

The payouts can be picked up at any time till end of Series so can just go a time the queue is shorter. I went last night and was about 15 people lined up. I went through it rather fast. I don't know why others seemed to be sitting so long. I last was at the WSOP in 2018. I got there and they asked if my info is still all the same. How I want to be paid, and just printed a slip and I signed it. For me I sat for like 1 minute and was finished, walked a few steps to window and got the cash. I only waited in the queue because was my first payout of the Series (just got here a few days ago) and wanted to know the process in case I need money as cash for playing elsewhere on a future day, Just wanted to make sure they didn't need more documents from me or whatever as my only ID is a US passport. But it was fine. In 2016 I had to print a bank statment and other stuff the first time. But then never have needed to since for rest of 2016, 2017, 2018 and now 2022. Just that one time it was a pain and has been smooth since.

I have long been diamond due to founders card. In past years (2018 and before) they more often checked my card when there was big queues for the regular line but was plenty of times I walked through unchecked, sometimes only needing to verbally state I was diamond. The same happened this year. I went during a time was not much queue and walked right through unchecked. Seems like people can sneak in sometimes to save 7 minutes or something like that. But when is a big queue they are checking.

If paying entry fee for a wsop event with a credit card is it billed as a purchase or cash advance? For those who have registered this way,

Thanks

Purchase. Here are the details from my entry into the $600 Deepstack on Monday:

BRAVO-WSOP 281-367-5233 TX
Transaction date: 06/07/2022
Card type: Visa
Transaction type: Purchases
Merchant description: COMM. SPORTS, PROF. SPORTS CLUBS, ATHLETIC FI
Merchant information: 281-367-5233 , TX

Had a lady at my sng get in the VIP line with Platinum so i guess its depends on the guard at the entrance.

I imagine there's lots of variance, depending on booby-size, and other things. But the guy that was checking when I went through was by-the-book. He sent a couple guys packing. Nobody came through while I was there to test the booby theory.

Great Vlog!

Can anyone comment on mgm or golden nugget? It seems like mgm is having trouble barely hitting their gtns. I def plan to play a few tournies there when I go. The structures look a little meh even thought start stack size is big however blinds get to a high amount quick.

I’m kinda bummed Venetian is only running mainly bigger mtts when I go. I might fire 2 bullets at the $1100 but wish there were more $400-800 mtts when I’m going in 1 week. I feel the Venetian structures are by far the best for the price point. The $1100 1 mill gtn looks super juicy with a very very good structure.


I think golden nugget is running a $600-500k I like a lot too. 40 min levels for that buy in seems solid for what else is going on. I might play mini main event but looking forward to other stuff also. Mini main would be so cool if 40min-1hr levels. I kinda think mini main should go to longer levels on day 2 but it’s not too bad value wise bc I think it will get a huge fairly soft field.

Venetian can’t run many smaller events because they just don’t have the room to accommodate the crowd which would show up for a smaller buy in event.

Don't play at MGM. My friend played a couple tournaments there and said the structures suck. And yes they aren't meeting a bunch of their guarantees. The TD is Justin Hammer and he seems to be notorious for putting together tournaments that miss guarantees. I'm honestly surprised he continues to get hired as a Tournament Director.

Also heard the dealers aren't good. My friend says he is done with MGM.

I feel the fact they aren’t hitting gtns is kinda good bc it gtns a small field size. The structures are a little wonky but I think they are sufficient for 1 day events. Obv better 1 day structures around but I’ll take a shot at a casino that may get a softer field that is small with a gtn that might not even get hit. Prrolly will limit mtts there though.


Anyone have thoughts on mini main structure? I kinda wanna play it but I feel the structure is a little meh. It’s a $1k though that will get massive field + insane 1st prize payout. I comment bc I remember watching on poker news last year how the stacks were late and it seemed everyone was super short. Like the biggest stacks were 40-60 bbs with 100 left which seemed kinda low for a wsop event. 60bbs, you lose a flip and have a cooler and you are out. Not a fan of those mtts that have really bad structure late. Would rather see blinds increase when the payouts actually matter

Is registration still 24/7 like at the rio? They’ll hVe someone there at 2-4 am?

Registered the Monster Stack Thursday morning around 4:30 a.m. took 5 minutes

Mini main is pretty fast for a $1k. I played it last year and wasn't too impressed.

There are better values at the WSOP if you are looking to get a lot of play for your $$$.

Thanks gonna do the same

Does anyone have experience unregistering/getting a refund for a tournament that was registered with a credit card?

I got a receipt that says "VOID" from the cage with the buy-in dollar amount listed...is this all I need? How long does it usually take for the refund to appear on my credit card?

Which 1 Day Structure is better then the 50k guaranteed 400$ daily in MGM? The Daily Aria 400? or the 1 Day 550 in Wynn?

i compared those 3, almost same buy in and all thre have 30 min Level:

MGM: 50k starting
Aria: 25k starting
Wynn: 20k starting

When you compare these 3, Starting Stack and how many BB 1 startink Stack is in one Level you will see following numbers:

Level 1 (MGM 300 BB , Aria 200 BB , Wynn 100 BB)
Level 5 (MGM 50 BB , Aria 41 BB , Wynn 33 BB)
Level 10 (MGM 17 BB , Aria 12 BB , Wynn 10 BB)
Level 15 (MGM 5 BB , Aria 4 BB , Wynn 2,5 BB)
Level 20 (MGM 2 BB , Aria 1 BB , Wynn 0,8 BB)

So if you see the blind Levels and how they raise MGM clearly has the best structure (or same % of raising the blinds) but
with 50k the most playability.

In general this structure for a 1 Day with 30min Level is really good. ! Day tournaments have to finish the same day, so a
much better structure is just not possible.

I dont know which event your friend played, maybe on of the 100 or 200 WHich starts in the evening, they are obvious
even faste, because there is less time to finish them.

Of course there are Tournaments with better structure, but these have multiple Days and just not have to end the same day
or higher Buy ins and therefore smaller field. To finish a tournament with 300-400 Players in one day there is just no
other option to make it 30min Level max with low AVG Stakes at end.

MINI Main Event WSOP:

I made top 20 in this one and with 20 left it was basically
just a 10/12 BB Average field and everyone in push or fold modus.

Change Level Time to 40 in day 2 would be perfect.
Though as it is just study Push/Fold Ranges and it is still
a got EV tournament with soft field

Agree with this. I'm confused by the earlier post suggesting not to play. Bad structure aside, is he claiming they aren't paying the guarantee? Otherwise it's an standard overlay which equates to free money for players.

FYI, pre-regged for Monster Stack.

I couldn’t do the Fastrac at 8:30 because it was closed. It seemed to be open after 9. But it was no problem because no one was waiting at the regular reg area. I was done in a few minutes.

New to the forum and could use your expertise…

Arriving tomorrow (June 12) for my 2nd trip to Vegas. Wife and I are mainly completing previously cancelled concerts and shows due to COVID, but as a decent rec player I do want to jump in on a few lower cost MTTs.

I’ve never experienced the WSOP except as part of their traveling circuit, and my friends tell me it is a ZOO in Vegas! And from what I’m reading on this thread, you all seem to confirm that.

My questions relate to the $200-$250 buy in 20-25K chip stack (deepstack) “side events”:

These deepstack side events show up on the Poker Atlas daily listings, but not on the WSOP website schedule, as far as I can tell.

>The registration link on the structure sheet sends me to the general registration info page… I know these tourneys are subject to cancellation, so are they “walk up”-only registrations (Champagne ball room), or can I register ahead of time?

>I’ve read about the Bravo registration platform… does that apply to these side events, too?

I can’t do the 2pm start times due to conflicts with our plans, but I can do the 9pm ones…. I would expect a bigger crowd at night, but maybe not because I’m looking to play Tuesday night (14th)?

>Opinions on how many players I should expect for the Tuesday night version of this, especially since it’s still early June?

>Has anyone here specifically played in one of these 9pm deepstack series tourneys yet?

>With a 20K (200bb) start stack and 20min levels, how long till finished? 5-6 hours? See screenshot of structure below.

I ask because my wife and I have plans the next day and I’m trying to decide if I can make this work.

Thanks for your replies on this.

they obviously do pay the guaranteed and of course overlay is a dream.

PokerDogDoc,

The results for these events can be seen here: https://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/fes...hp?a=r&n=40581

The fields will be smaller than the 2pm start, but still a good prize pool for a nightly. Looks like about 7K to first. About 250-300 people, it has reentries too.

Depending on chop or not they can go to the early hours of the morning and can make the next day tough.

If you'll be around on Friday night the Orleans tournament is a good one too.

The 9m $200 goes to about 3-4AM and usually gets about 200-250 people this year.

It's a fun event, but you only get maybe 2-3 hours of real play before it shifts into push-fold territory for most stacks.

If you want a slightly more serious vibe, I would try one of the 11AM Aria $400 or 2PM Paris $250 events. 30 minute levels will give you a little more play.

Thanks DogFace and Takedown…

Problem is that I’ll have to play evening games so those others mentioned are out.

I can handle the overnight.

Any idea about how to register for these?

Online, and then check in onsite, like the other tourneys (as discussed on the WSOP website)?

I’m a newbie, but I’m sure I can figure it out if I’m pointed in the right direction.