So structure sheets soon we hope

Ha - just trying to steer it back on track somewhat.

Thx Yes it should be tonight or any day now .

By definition, if people are renting the cars, the prices are reasonable. If they stop renting the cars, then they will have to reduce prices to get people to rent the cars. Simple. If they charge less and then run out of supply and then other people can't get cars, they cost themselves money, pissed off customers, and would now have the same people who are complaining about the rates complaining that they can't get a car at all.

Seeing in the news the last few weeks about people renting U-Hauls because they are cheaper and more available than renting cars. lol

Agreed. No consumer likes rising prices, but IMO some in this thread are seriously underestimating the effects of an economic shutdown. Inflation and shortages are likely to be around for some time.

Did anybody else notice that none of the events listed describe what the VIG is? Normally, I would expect it to be the same as last time, but Caesar's is under new management and that new management is cutting costs wherever it can.

https://www.bloombergquint.com/amp/m...head-of-merger

Just saw on the news about an app called Turo, where you can rent cars from people, not a company. A couple on the news bought 9 cars and was renting them out and doing it full time.

Hey guys,

Have a question about covid safety precautions.. I imagine a lot of you don't see it as an issue, but for those like me who want to be really safe, where can i find out about it? can't seem to find info on the subject anywhere

Stuff like:
Do they have proper airfilters in the poker rooms?
Will they allow anyone in or just vaccinated people or people with negative tests?

Also, if there's a doctor in here, the million dollar question:
If you are fully vaccinated, and wearing a mask during play, how much would you estimate the risk of still catching covid? knowing that this damn delta variant seems to be extremely contagious

Any other info would be appreciated, since Im hesitating to book flight and accommodation before I can know for sure it won't be a disaster having so many people in the same card room..

Thanks

I am coming to Vegas in 2 days and this is what I am doing. It is my first time with Turo, I hope all goes well...

I used this where I'm from because I needed to rent a car big enough to hold 6 people comfortably and it worked great. I looked into it for a recent Vegas trip and the issue I ran into was the delivery cost to have the vehicle at either the airport or the rent car facility was expensive enough to make it not an attractive option.

I was surprised that no one was undercutting the market, given the high rental car prices and shaky Lyft/Uber availability, by offering free delivery to either the airport or rental car facility parking lot.

FROM WSOP 4/1/21 ANNOUNCEMENT "Specific COVID-19 safety protocols and other related 2021 tournament policies will be reviewed with gaming regulators in the lead-up to the event. The World Series of Poker will be compliant with all directives from the state of Nevada regarding social distancing and capacity limits on the tournament dates. "
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There is absolutely zero official statements that would require all entrants to be vaccinated or to show proof of a negative test.

Not a doctor but can read the tremendous amount of material online and on the CDC website.......... Want a ball Park - if you are vaccinated you have about a 95% chance EVEN IF FULLY EXPOSED - literally someone coughing in your bare face to NOT be effected or about the same as running your KK into an AA preflop- as to the increase in safety of a "mask" you would need to clearly define the exact make, material and type for a relevant answer.

The Delta variant is 40% to 60 % more contagious depending upon who you want to believe AND how that % is being measured (IE what type of exposure) realize that EXPOSURE does NOT equal contracted.

COMMENTARY - if you are that scared of COVID how you could enjoy the WSOP is beyond my understanding. I suggest you delay your trip to 2022 or later. Its your right to be as careful, take precautions, and terrified as you care to be but I would think you would be greatly distracted from the poker action to play anywhere near optimal.

I believe the rake is listed in the PDF version of the schedule at the bottom of Page 9.

https://www.wsop.com/pdfs/schedules/schedule_4865.pdf

Buy-In
Take-Out
$400
17.50%
$500
16%
$888
11%
$1,000
11%
$1,500
11%
$2,000
11%
$2,500
11%
$3,000
11%
$5,000
7.75%
$25,000
5.50%
$10,000
6.75%
$50,000
4.25%
$100,000
3.25%
$600
15%
$800
12%
$250,000
0.4%

Thanks! I found the 2019 rake schedule https://www.wsop.com/2019/2019-WSOP-Schedule-Final.pdf

Below is the comparison. It looks like rake increases across the board. More rake is better, right?

Buy-In Buy-In
Take-Out Take-Out
$400 $400
16.25% 17.50%
$500 $500
13% 16%
$888 $888
10% 11%
$1,000 $1,000
10% 11%
$1,500 $1,500
10% 11%
$2,000 $2,000
10% 11%
$2,500 $2,500
10% 11%
$3,000 $3,000
10% 11%
$5,000 $5,000
7% 7.75%
$25,000 $25,000
5% 5.50%
$10,000 $10,000
6% 6.75%
$50,000 $50,000
4% 4.25%
$100,000 $100,000
3% 3.25%

Based on the 2010 and 2017 wsop $1000 events, it looks like the rake was 10%. (2 random events)

If that is accurate for the rest, then I don't see an issue with a bit more rake after a decade.

Lol at immediately assuming Im scared and terrified
Also love the quotes around "mask" as if its a disgusting repulsive thought..

Just don't want to be caught in the middle of the perfect storm..
And Im pretty sure Im not the only one who's worried about that

There are no guarantees 2022 would be better, so if its ok with you, I'll just keep trying to find out more... Thanks!

I understand your concerns. I had similar concerns. I went to Las Vegas in early June . After I landed found out that mask mandate was removed. 90% of the visitors were not wearing mask .
So I decided I am not going to worry about other people. I took care of myself. Distance where possible,not hand shaking, avoiding close contact while talking to someone etc .
I had my vaccine done in January/February. I saw signs everywhere that if you are vaccinated than no mask . When talked to tournament officials ( Venetian ) was told they can not control Or police large crowd. Everything is on owner system.
If you decide to go in October just be careful and enjoy the trip .

Good Luck

Just don't go. Problem solved.

Thanks, you make a lot of sense... can't control everything so maybe just do my best and see what happens

Cheers

The biggest rate hike is for the $500 events (13%->16% this includes the new "reunion" event). Wasn't the main event rake free prior to Caesar's Entertainment taking it over? Now Eldorado is in charge and they've bumped the rake again. Seems like every time the WSOP changes hands, the players pay more.

I believe specific protocols will be determined closer to the event and will be driven by conditions at that time and state regulations. At this moment, masks are not required if you are fully vaccinated, but its on the honor system. They do not ask for proof of vaccination. When I was in Vegas a few weeks ago, probably something like 20% of people I saw wore masks indoors. Probably somewhat less than that at the poker tables. Some dealers wore masks but it was not required. Assumedly those that did not were fully vaccinated.

I think they have taken down all plexiglass at poker tables and most plexiglass at other gaming tables. Other than increased sanitization efforts, like cleaning railings when players are eliminated, I'm not aware of any other significant measures still in place. For example, in March, hotels checked temperatures at entry points and required players to sanitize prior to sitting at the table. In June these requirements were no longer in place because of changes in state regulations.

As for air filtration, the only place I found info was on the Venetion website: https://www.venetian.com/resort/venetian-clean.html

Haven't heard anything about the RIO convention spaces and increased air-handling or filtration.

When I was there things really seemed to be back to normal. There were some hassles because of decreased staffing and supply chain disruptions, but hopefully these things improve in the coming months. I suppose there is no guarantee.

But I would expect the scene to be more or less like normal come October. Fingers crossed. Make of that what you will and just do what you feel comfortable doing.

I think now I can make up my mind about travel dates as Structure Sheets for all the events are posted

Amazing find, this is exactly what i was looking for.. Thanks a lot!

Its fair to assume rio and other casinos are more or less taking the same precautions, which are actually not bad at all

Seems like they're on top of things and taking it seriously, which is just what i needed to hear

Rio’s Health and safety Policy

https://www.caesars.com/health-and-safety

I'm not a doctor, but I can quote one. Fauci said the typical double-layer cloth mask that most people seem to wear, is virtually worthless against the virus.

Agree. Have you ever been to the WSOP? It's a human car wash. You're arseholes to elbows with massive mobs of people almost any time you're in the WSOP area.