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07-03-2021 , 03:58 AM
Thinking about staying at MGM Grand due to the best comps available to me for my WSOP trip of Oct 1st-6th flying in around 10pm Local time. (plan to play WSOP events for the 4 days there) How much of an issue will it be traveling to the RIO with Uber/Taxi?

Is it worth spending nearly double and staying at a closer MGM property like Bellagio?

Car rental about $600, cant imagine I spend that much in Uber/Taxi fares...
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07-03-2021 , 04:46 AM
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I was told by a TD in another casino that the pandemic pretty much ended PH’s run. All of the individuals who were responsible for running the tournaments there were let go. He was pretty sure that their series would not be coming back. I guess anything is possible and certainly one TD telling me this may not know everything but he definitely knew more than what’s been communicated here. I would bet money that it’s not coming back.


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That would be good money. I talked to them about it yesterday and they said it wasn’t happening.
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07-03-2021 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Rtaylor86
Thinking about staying at MGM Grand due to the best comps available to me for my WSOP trip of Oct 1st-6th flying in around 10pm Local time. (plan to play WSOP events for the 4 days there) How much of an issue will it be traveling to the RIO with Uber/Taxi?

Is it worth spending nearly double and staying at a closer MGM property like Bellagio?

Car rental about $600, cant imagine I spend that much in Uber/Taxi fares...
Well, I stayed at the El Cortez (downtown) for part of my WSOP trip in 2019 and I want to say it was only like $12-15 each way for Lyft. I'm thinking prices might be higher this time around due to driver shortages and high demand, but I can't imagine it will be over $20 per ride.

MGM is a pretty big hike from the Rio if you're walking, but in a car it's still a relatively short distance. The other factor to consider is that even if you're staying at the Bellagio, you probably still won't want to walk. So you'd still be dumping some $$$ every day on ride share. The only way to dodge that is to have a car or stay at Rio or Gold Coast.

I had a similar decision for this upcoming WSOP and just booked some time at Harrahs. I was slated to stay at the Rio, but like you, I decided that a drastically lower rate is worth a little inconvenience.

Plus, if you are fit and you don't mind walking, MGM Grand to Aria or Bellagio is a very doable walk if you plan to play those venues at all.
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07-04-2021 , 07:20 AM
Small digression - why are car rentals so expensive? Used to be they were 15 or 20 bucks a day.
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07-04-2021 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
Small digression - why are car rentals so expensive? Used to be they were 15 or 20 bucks a day.
The price of used cars has gone up big time because of a shortage of computer chips used to make the cars.

My almost new car that I bought 4 years ago is worth more now than what I paid for it when checking KBB. Crazy.
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07-04-2021 , 09:45 AM
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Small digression - why are car rentals so expensive? Used to be they were 15 or 20 bucks a day.
The Rental Car companies,The Airlines and their PR department are shouting on Megaphone that recent price gouging and shortages is due to epidemic .

IMO if politicians wakes up from their financial political interest and start investigation, will find out huge scandals of monopoly looting of public by corporate world.
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07-04-2021 , 10:06 AM
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Well, I stayed at the El Cortez (downtown) for part of my WSOP trip in 2019 and I want to say it was only like $12-15 each way for Lyft. I'm thinking prices might be higher this time around due to driver shortages and high demand, but I can't imagine it will be over $20 per ride.

MGM is a pretty big hike from the Rio if you're walking, but in a car it's still a relatively short distance. The other factor to consider is that even if you're staying at the Bellagio, you probably still won't want to walk. So you'd still be dumping some $$$ every day on ride share. The only way to dodge that is to have a car or stay at Rio or Gold Coast.

I had a similar decision for this upcoming WSOP and just booked some time at Harrahs. I was slated to stay at the Rio, but like you, I decided that a drastically lower rate is worth a little inconvenience.

Plus, if you are fit and you don't mind walking, MGM Grand to Aria or Bellagio is a very doable walk if you plan to play those venues at all.

Ppl should keep in mind it'll be decent weather and easier to take a hike, not the 105-115 it normally is during traditional WSOP time
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07-04-2021 , 11:19 AM
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Ppl should keep in mind it'll be decent weather and easier to take a hike, not the 105-115 it normally is during traditional WSOP time
That’s the biggest advantage this year for accompanying non playing spouse this year as WSOP in October/November.
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07-04-2021 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rtaylor86
Thinking about staying at MGM Grand due to the best comps available to me for my WSOP trip of Oct 1st-6th flying in around 10pm Local time. (plan to play WSOP events for the 4 days there) How much of an issue will it be traveling to the RIO with Uber/Taxi?

Is it worth spending nearly double and staying at a closer MGM property like Bellagio?

Car rental about $600, cant imagine I spend that much in Uber/Taxi fares...
If you're taking an uber/taxi anyway, what's it gonna cost, like $5 more per ride to/from MGM than Bellagio? I'd stay at MGM, unless you have reasons for wanting to be closer to center-strip.
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07-04-2021 , 04:02 PM
Appreciate the advice on the matter everyone, never been to Vegas just for WSOP before.

Stayed at the Venetian twice with the family and last time was Luxor for a bachelor party about 6 years ago. Makes more sense to just stay at MGM Grand and Uber/taxi over to the Rio everyday it seems
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07-04-2021 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Rtaylor86
Thinking about staying at MGM Grand due to the best comps available to me for my WSOP trip of Oct 1st-6th flying in around 10pm Local time. (plan to play WSOP events for the 4 days there) How much of an issue will it be traveling to the RIO with Uber/Taxi?

Is it worth spending nearly double and staying at a closer MGM property like Bellagio?

Car rental about $600, cant imagine I spend that much in Uber/Taxi fares...
MGM Grand is the best rate of all MGM properties? I mean you are going for WSOP and other poker, so you will hardly be in the room for your trip. Car rentals prices are going to be terrible for quite some time.

One thing to note, talking a cab from the rear entrance of Aria/Vdara is cheaper since you can go quick on Harmon Ave. Park MGM is connected to Aria, but that casino is very meh. MGM grand, I bet most cab drivers go on Las Vegas Blvd instead of taking Tropicana to Dean Martin Dr to get to Rio. It just equals more time and higher fare. I would say with tip, a $15-20 ride each way from MGM grand. You will probably stick to taxi since rideshare times currently have long waits.
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07-04-2021 , 08:15 PM
Is there a WSOP code for mgm and properties?
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07-05-2021 , 08:13 AM
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The price of used cars has gone up big time because of a shortage of computer chips used to make the cars.

My almost new car that I bought 4 years ago is worth more now than what I paid for it when checking KBB. Crazy.
That shouldn't matter, they already had the cars. Even if it did, the cars didn't get 10x more expensive.
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07-05-2021 , 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
That shouldn't matter, they already had the cars. Even if it did, the cars didn't get 10x more expensive.
Not sure if you’ve noticed but the price of just about everything has increased quite a bit compared to pre-pandemic levels. Lots of macro and micro reasons for this, but it’s basic supply and demand economics at its core. Are people actually surprised by this?
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07-05-2021 , 04:39 PM
My understanding is that multiple rental cos sold inventory last year to avoid bk.
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07-05-2021 , 06:36 PM
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My understanding is that multiple rental cos sold inventory last year to avoid bk.
R u professionally follow rental car companies workings or trends ? In other word r u a auto rental industry analyst? How did you get that understanding? Will you please share your research with us ?

Thx
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07-05-2021 , 07:22 PM
Just what I recall from news reports last year. I suggest researching it yourself if it is important to you.

Here is an article I pulled at random:https://www.seattletimes.com/busines...usiness-booms/

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When the company filed for bankruptcy in May 2020, used car prices were only just starting to rise. By August, prices were up nearly 20% according to data from Manheim, which runs auctions for used cars and tracks that market. The timing worked out well for Hertz, which sold more than 200,000 vehicles, mostly in the second half of 2020. Before it filed for bankruptcy, Hertz had a global fleet of about 650,000 vehicles.
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07-05-2021 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by riverph7
R u professionally follow rental car companies workings or trends ? In other word r u a auto rental industry analyst? How did you get that understanding? Will you please share your research with us ?

Thx
According to this article, the rental car companies sold off more than 3/4 of a million cars in 2020, and now because of the chip shortage affecting the car manufacturers, they are having trouble replacing inventory.
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07-06-2021 , 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
That shouldn't matter, they already had the cars. Even if it did, the cars didn't get 10x more expensive.
https://www.9news.com/article/money/...1-7ccadd152ba1

I mean, it's all right there for you.
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07-06-2021 , 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerHero77
Just what I recall from news reports last year. I suggest researching it yourself if it is important to you.

Here is an article I pulled at random:https://www.seattletimes.com/busines...usiness-booms/
Meh, Hertz was on its way down the tubes before the c virus.
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07-06-2021 , 10:30 AM
And all the other rental car companies I guess, based on selling off 1/3 of their fleets.
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07-06-2021 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerHero77
And all the other rental car companies I guess, based on selling off 1/3 of their fleets.
On average rental car companies keep the cars for 4 to 18 months , so selling 1/3 inventory during the year is normal process.

And no one is denying some effects of Covid-19 to every business. But raising prices 200% or more for the rental raise the flags and need to be investigated.

The corporation and their PR department will try to spread disinformation or exaggerated facts is understandable but believing them as if it came from Mother Teresa is not very smart thing to do

Last edited by riverph7; 07-06-2021 at 10:50 AM.
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07-06-2021 , 10:46 AM
A third of the normal fleet is not available, according to the article. Do the math.
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07-06-2021 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by riverph7
On average rental car companies keep the cars for 4 to 18 months , so selling 1/3 inventory during the year is normal process.

And no one is denying some effects of Covid-19 to every business. But raising prices 200% or more for the rental raise the flags and need to be investigated.

The corporation and their PR department will try to spread disinformation or exaggerated facts is understandable but believing them as if it came from Mother Teresa is not very smart thing to do
Oh for heavens sakes...... Yes, those nasty capitalists have cranked up their PR Dept to hoodwick all of us except you and the "enlighted" few. How many articles have to be posted from all sides of the political spectrum for you to read and possible reconsider that the mass media haven't also been blinded..... semi neutral, liberal, conservative sources all say pretty much the same set of facts. https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurabe...h=768b3063223e https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rental-...avel-rebounds/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/trave...erprise-hertz/ https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/25/busin...ike/index.html https://nypost.com/2021/06/16/us-car...amid-shortage/ Documentation enough ? My apologies to the board for allowing myself to continue this off topic discussion.
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07-06-2021 , 04:15 PM
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Oh for heavens sakes...... Yes, those nasty capitalists have cranked up their PR Dept to hoodwick all of us except you and the "enlighted" few. How many articles have to be posted from all sides of the political spectrum for you to read and possible reconsider that the mass media haven't also been blinded..... semi neutral, liberal, conservative sources all say pretty much the same set of facts. https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurabe...h=768b3063223e https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rental-...avel-rebounds/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/trave...erprise-hertz/ https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/25/busin...ike/index.html https://nypost.com/2021/06/16/us-car...amid-shortage/ Documentation enough ? My apologies to the board for allowing myself to continue this off topic discussion.
You can accept what ever you want to . If I don’t believe and raise my doubts I think that’s my choice!

With all Information from media you agree with them that price hike of 200 to 300% is reasonable for them to charge that’s fine with me.

I may not have analytical ability or intelligence to judge what ever comes from media or internet.
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