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Old Today, 12:24 PM   #751
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Re: 2021 WSOP

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I agree it’s highly vulnerable and am not saying the next line to justify or rationalize using them but…

We’re already in a world where all our data is out there and hackable. The only way you’re not is if you live completely off the grid and don’t use the internet. Sadly, anyone who wants to know anything about you can and will find it out.

Again, not saying that to persuade someone to use Clear or not. I guess it’s better to not make it even easier for people to get your data. But at the same time, it certainly isn’t difficult. As far as privacy is now concerned, we’re all screwed.
I agree with your general point except… your data is not readily available to most people. It is only available to those who are willing to put in some effort or pay some price and/or break the law. But things are obviously going more in that direction. I just don’t see the sense in helping that along unless there’s a good reason.
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Old Today, 12:24 PM   #752
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Re: 2021 WSOP

What Doc said. We all have to decide on our personal acceptable level of risk.

Trying to equate the Equifax breach to Clear isn't good analysis, though. A hurricane just hit the gulf, so I should be worried about hurricanes here in Colorado?

Reminds me of my neighbor. Has a couple of shepards to guard the house. Guns. Was telling us recently he's set mirrors and pictures in specific places so he can see reflections of the intruders when they come.

Except nothing of note has ever happened in this neighborhood. Also, he doesn't have **** worth coming after.

Sure, he's ready if there is an invasion, but it must be exhausting to cnostantly be on high alert against the one-in-a-million shot.
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Old Today, 01:45 PM   #753
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What Doc said. We all have to decide on our personal acceptable level of risk.

Trying to equate the Equifax breach to Clear isn't good analysis, though. A hurricane just hit the gulf, so I should be worried about hurricanes here in Colorado?

Reminds me of my neighbor. Has a couple of shepards to guard the house. Guns. Was telling us recently he's set mirrors and pictures in specific places so he can see reflections of the intruders when they come.

Except nothing of note has ever happened in this neighborhood. Also, he doesn't have **** worth coming after.

Sure, he's ready if there is an invasion, but it must be exhausting to cnostantly be on high alert against the one-in-a-million shot.
You are right on the mark.

I have heard school system were broken in to and/or school systems were hacked.

I have heard of hospital and doctors offices were broken in to and/or their system hacked.

I have heard Banks , Credit Card processing co, Big Financial brokerage companies were hacked.

And many more places where we American have given our whole life stories willingly or unwillingly for whole our lives.

I am not advocating for WSOP or CLEAR but we live in horrible time and have accept risk and go with it..

What services you can reject to use ? Or who can says they are not using any of above services ? Why in the name of principle we are fighting one thing.

What will all the people do who are opposed to clear or any similar system is only way for WSOP to verify validity of your vaccination ? Will not play WSOP and come back from Las Vegas because they don’t want share their information?

This is not directed to anyone here but I have seen people suggesting to use dangerous home remedies and denying seriousness of COVID-19, jumping out ahead of whole country and getting vaccination for them , for their families and for their partners in crime in the name of National Security!

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Old Today, 03:13 PM   #754
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Re: 2021 WSOP

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What Doc said. We all have to decide on our personal acceptable level of risk.

Trying to equate the Equifax breach to Clear isn't good analysis, though. A hurricane just hit the gulf, so I should be worried about hurricanes here in Colorado?

Reminds me of my neighbor. Has a couple of shepards to guard the house. Guns. Was telling us recently he's set mirrors and pictures in specific places so he can see reflections of the intruders when they come.

Except nothing of note has ever happened in this neighborhood. Also, he doesn't have **** worth coming after.

Sure, he's ready if there is an invasion, but it must be exhausting to cnostantly be on high alert against the one-in-a-million shot.
This isn’t apples and oranges. It’s apples and apples. The chances of being hit by a hurricane in Colorado are several orders of magnitude less than the gulf.

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You are right on the mark.

I have heard school system were broken in to and/or school systems were hacked.

I have heard of hospital and doctors offices were broken in to and/or their system hacked.

I have heard Banks , Credit Card processing co, Big Financial brokerage companies were hacked.

And many more places where we American have given our whole life stories willingly or unwillingly for whole our lives.

I am not advocating for WSOP or CLEAR but we live in horrible time and have accept risk and go with it..

What services you can reject to use ? Or who can says they are not using any of above services ? Why in the name of principle we are fighting one thing.

What will all the people do who are opposed to clear or any similar system is only way for WSOP to verify validity of your vaccination ? Will not play WSOP and come back from Las Vegas because they don’t want share their information?
You don’t have to accept the risk. Clear is not mandatory. And I don’t know what I would do if it were. Probably play Venetian/Wynn only.
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Old Today, 03:33 PM   #755
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Re: 2021 WSOP

*Sigh*. Of course, the hurricane isn't a perfect analogy, but neither is "Equifax was hacked, so Clear will be too".

Absolutely zero evidence of any correlation or causation there.

To try to steer this back on the WSOP track, my suspicion is that CET will try to set up devices to scan Clear QR codes for WSOP validation, but mess up the tech.
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Old Today, 05:55 PM   #756
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*Sigh*. Of course, the hurricane isn't a perfect analogy, but neither is "Equifax was hacked, so Clear will be too".

Absolutely zero evidence of any correlation or causation there.

To try to steer this back on the WSOP track, my suspicion is that CET will try to set up devices to scan Clear QR codes for WSOP validation, but mess up the tech.
I didn’t really say one will cause the other or is correlated to the other. I said if one can happen the other can happen. I don’t see any reason to believe it can’t.

And yes, I don’t think this will be logistical smooth sailing, regardless of how the WSOP implements the mandate.
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Old Today, 08:45 PM   #757
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I bit the bullet and signed up for clear health pass. Tried to do it on a PC, and it requires you to pay. To do it for free, you have to do it on a mobile device. So anyway, it scanned my driver's license, my face, and my vax card, and now it has a QR code (or something like that) that is specifically listed as a WSOP registration pass. I already forgot, but I must have clicked a link from the WSOP site to download it...
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