The $800 at the V with 40 minute levels, 30k in chips had a skill rating of 49.0. The $1,000 WSOP seniors has a skill rating of 44.0 and he $1500 Milly Maker has a skill rating of 54.37.

Someone please explain what "skill rating" means.

https://www.pokertournamentformula.c...-skill-levels/

I found this , but still like to understand more.
In context with your play?

And which website publish rating for WSOP tournament .

Appreciate your help.

Thx

Assuming he is talking about "Patience Factor" being the same as "Skill Rating". I use a spreadsheet to calculate, but from memory, you calculate how many hours it would take to blind off if you never played a hand and then multiple that by itself. 6.25 hour BO is 6.25X6.25= Patience Factor of 39.06.

The higher the number the better. $60 local donkament would be around a 6 or 7, good online tournaments $10 or so could be 25 to 30 depending. Something like the Mil maker at WSOP could be 50+ I didn't run it.

Another helpful thing to compare is calculate how many hands of at least 30bb+ poker you will play if your stack remains the same.
Use 30 hands/hr for live and 50 for online.

So, you're saying that the bubble should come later this year than in 2019? 2019 was a four day tournament and this year is supposed to be 3.

I'm unfamiliar with the "skill rating." Does that translate well in limit tournaments/stud?

The skill rating in 2021 is closer to 48.3. I had said 54.79. In 2019 it was 32.63.

In 2019 the event lasted 28 levels. Day 3 started with 10 players and they quit after less than 2 levels with 6 left to goto day 4. It could have been finished in 3 days. The money bubble burst at level 15 in 2019. For 2021 with 40 min day 1 and 60 min day 2, the money bubble should bust in level 18 to 20. But 18 would be about 2 hours sooner than in 2019. 2021 will definitely be slower on day 1. But seems to pick up faster on day 2.

Skill rating: MOI 100.0. Everybody else, 0.3. Well. maybe 0.5 for Negreanu and Hellmuth.

New mask mandate - might have flushed the 2021 WSOP for me.

Has Nevada or the WSOP mandated masks or implemented a vaccination status check or vaccine requirement ? Or are you simply referring to the latest CDC updates - if so considering the ever changing guidelines (and legally that is all they are) who knows what their standards will be in October.

Gov. also mentioned they will extend the borders being closed to foreigners. I'm curious to see if it will last until WSOP. If so, there will be a lot less players. Which, in term of skillset, would be great! (smaller fields + less euros)

Nevada mandated them based on the CDC guidelines.

Unless they change something I didn’t noticed .

As per my understanding the mask mandate is limited to employees not to the tourist. Please excuses me if missed some news updates.

Yesterday the NV Gov made it a mandate following the CDC new guidance. It starts Friday at midnight.

October is a Looooooooooong way off & there will likely be several more revisions to the CDC guidelines.

My trip is booked and I think I'll let it ride until mid-September when school starts back and some business re-open their offices to employees.

Exciting times!

I'd be shocked if the WSOP isn't canceled with how fast cases are rising at this point

Thank you all for the updated info. Here is how it is being told now nationally.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...-nevada-vegas/

FWIW I will be surprised if the WSOP doesn't go off as currently planned. As Beachman22 noted 2 months in a virus environment is a lifetime.

Lot of profits at stake to shut it off again this year. Hey maybe the hotel, and car rental rates will go down. It MIGHT impact the Sr and Super Sr turnout if the Delta factor scare remains at the current levels and just has been mentioned the international players. I would take the bet it still is held but what the hell I still consider myself bullet proof even though I'm an old fart.

There are only so many WSOP chances left in my bucket list so I will still be coming under almost all conditions.

I think it will be hard for many seniors to convince their spouse and will be harder to convince their kids and grandchildren to let them take that kind of risk. I know almost all seniors are independent but there are sentimental restrictions .

I'll be shocked if it is. There's a lot of money riding on the WSOP taking place as planned. The casinos are the government in Nevada. They'll make it happen even if people are dying like flies.

Doomers gonna doom.

It's a long way off if we had been masked for months already, but the masking has not even begun yet. The govt seems to want to see several weeks of improvement in the situation to ease up, and both the state and fed govt are biased towards masking/shutdown. I agree there is still time, but not much wiggle room. It's only 2 months till the scheduled start, and the WSOP might make a decision much earlier wrt cancelation.

Ditto, but I can't play if it's not held. Even if they do hold it with masks, turnout will be considerably lower, with no foreign contingent at all, unless a lot of illegal aliens decide to play. It would also be a crappy experience. I played short sessions this spring with a mask. The 10-14 hour sessions that I typically play at WSOP would downright suck with a mask.

https://nvhealthresponse.nv.gov/#covid-data-tracker

https://app.powerbigov.us/view?r=eyJ...RkMjcwMzk4MCJ9

Covid is following same pattern as last year and is already on the downswing in NV. I’m thinking when it continues to come down, the government will be able to say “hey, this nonsensical policy we put in place worked! Look how effective we are as leaders.”

So, based on how Covid works, I think the WSOP is in a prime period. Not sure if they will get rid of the mask mandate because of that, since again, they will think it’s actually doing something.

I would definitely expect there to be more restrictions put in place in the late fall and winter. Going to be fascinating what they do with indoor sporting events. Vegas is planning to make a TON of money off the Raiders this year. If they suddenly have mask mandates and limited capacity come November/December it will put a serious dent into those plans.

Agreed. But I doubt you will ever see vaccine requirements put in place by the US government. It would probably be unconstitutional in this country. It would also likely be unconstitutional for private entities to require vaccination to participate their products/services. But that’s a grayer area.

What is less gray is for employers to require vaccination among their employees. While not strictly allowable, employers have a lot of leeway in making their employees lives miserable if they do not get vaccinated, so it can become a de facto requirement and would be legal. And in that case most people who have a job will have to become vaccinated. If the government puts pressure on employers to do this (with threats of strict restrictions and shutdowns), then again it will be a de facto vaccine mandate from the government.

In any case, the current mask policy seems more like a desincentivizer for skeptical people to get vaccinated. So I doubt we will see the vaccination rates increase much till that de facto mandate is put in place. My guess is this winter when Covid rates increase, the government will have all the justification it thinks it needs to do that.

Personally I didn't enter a Casino for over a year - No tournaments being held and my card counting BJ days are long in the past so no reason to do so. I then played a couple with the plexiglass shields which were a PITA but livable, played unmasked and only the last tourney did I mask up again - I am from Missouri and Delta is here and simply a risk I am willing to take. To me there is just more to existence than breathing so if I have to put up with the minor inconvenience of a mask to take part in something I enjoy then so be it............ been doing it at work basically the entire time so its pretty much old hat to me anyway. I respect COVID but have no fear of it. Being 68 how many WSOP's do I have left ? I'd like to think 7 or truly pushing it maybe 12. I will pay the elevated room rates, Car Rental rates, and put on a mask if that's what it takes. If the fields are smaller and tougher without the other REC players - okay. I prefer the biggest field possible because it dilutes the competition and slightly increases my EV but off and on over the years I have played with some of the biggest names and while I prefer a soft table I just enjoy the experience and try to learn from watching the top dogs style and approach.

One of the first events is a $500 buy-in $5M guarantee. Travel restrictions alone could prevent 10K entrants from showing up. I think they'll cancel before they run a tournament with a huge overlay.