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12-19-2019 , 02:24 AM
Will it reach 30000 this year?
Are you planning to go that week?

I already booked the week of it - i am pretty sure it will be the busiest week at the WSOP and the best cash games too.
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12-19-2019 , 06:35 PM
I will be there! Can't wait!
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12-19-2019 , 06:57 PM
No way it goes to 30k. I am able to go this week but think I will go the week after. Good luck.
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12-22-2019 , 06:25 AM
What are the dates for the flights?
When is final day?
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12-22-2019 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by juneik
What are the dates for the flights?
When is final day?
I would imagine it will be the same as last year:
2019 structure:
Starting Chips: 50,000
Level Duration: 50 minutes

Day 1A – Thursday, May 30
11:00 a.m. Start
Play 12 levels
20-min breaks after every 2 levels
75-minute dinner break after level 8 (≈ 6:40 p.m.)
Late Registration: 10 levels (≈ 9:55 p.m.)
Day 2A Restart – Friday, May 31
2:00 p.m. Start
Play 8 levels
20-min breaks after every 2 levels
Surviving Players Return for Day 3
Day 1B – Friday, May 31
11:00 a.m. Start
Play 12 levels
20-min breaks after every 2 levels
75-minute dinner break after level 8 (≈ 6:40 p.m.)
Late Registration: 10 levels (≈ 9:55 p.m.)
Day 2B Restart – Saturday, June 1
5:00 p.m. Start
Play 8 levels
20-min breaks after every 2 levels
Surviving Players Return for Day 3
Day 1C – Saturday, June 1
10:00 a.m. Start
Play 12 levels
20-min breaks after every 2 levels
75-minute dinner break after level 8 (≈ 5:40 p.m.)
Late Registration: 10 levels (≈ 8:55 p.m.)
Day 2C Restart – Monday, June 3
10:00 a.m. Start
Play 8 levels
20-min breaks after every 2 levels
Surviving Players Return for Day 3
Day 1D – Sunday, June 2
10:00 a.m. Start
Play 12 levels
20-min breaks after every 2 levels
75-minute dinner break after level 8 (≈ 5:40 p.m.)
Late Registration: 10 levels (≈ 8:55 p.m.)
Day 2D Restart – Tuesday, June 4
10:00 a.m. Start
Play 8 levels
20-min breaks after every 2 levels
Surviving Players Return for Day 3
Day 3 – Wednesday, June 5
11:00 a.m. Restart
2A, 2B, 2C, & 2D Fields are combined
Play 12 levels
20-min breaks every 2 levels
60-min break after level 8 (≈ 6:40 p.m.)
Day 4 – Thursday, June 6
11:00 a.m. Restart
Play down to 6 players
20-min breaks every 2 levels
60-min break after Level 8 (≈ 6:40 p.m.)
Day 5 – Friday, June 7
12:00 p.m. Restart
Play down to a winner
15-min breaks every 2 levels
Dinner Break TBD
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12-23-2019 , 11:46 AM
To ppl going during that week: manage your expectations. I played the Big 50 last year. The tournament structure is great. BUT:
-The lines are insane (register in advance). It also means that if you want to re-enter you are likely to stand in line for hours just to get to your seat.
-If your plan is to register the morning of, it is likely you won't be able to as the event will be sold out.
-Most other games are unlikely to run as they need the space and table: very limited cash game (probably in the kings lounge) and no STTs. It can be quite frustrating.

So, when you are in the Big 50 it is fun, when you are out, in gets really frustrating and painful.

My 2 cents.
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12-23-2019 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Tintinpoker
To ppl going during that week: manage your expectations. I played the Big 50 last year. The tournament structure is great. BUT:
-The lines are insane (register in advance). It also means that if you want to re-enter you are likely to stand in line for hours just to get to your seat.
-If your plan is to register the morning of, it is likely you won't be able to as the event will be sold out.
-Most other games are unlikely to run as they need the space and table: very limited cash game (probably in the kings lounge) and no STTs. It can be quite frustrating.

So, when you are in the Big 50 it is fun, when you are out, in gets really frustrating and painful.

My 2 cents.
Or just be smart about it and register online in advance( small fee but totally worth it if lines frustrate you).
Also, treat it as freeze out because reentering the same flight will be hard but if you have a credit card on file it is easy at the kiosk and saves hours.
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12-24-2019 , 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Tintinpoker
To ppl going during that week: manage your expectations. I played the Big 50 last year. The tournament structure is great. BUT:
-The lines are insane (register in advance). It also means that if you want to re-enter you are likely to stand in line for hours just to get to your seat.
-If your plan is to register the morning of, it is likely you won't be able to as the event will be sold out.
-Most other games are unlikely to run as they need the space and table: very limited cash game (probably in the kings lounge) and no STTs. It can be quite frustrating.

So, when you are in the Big 50 it is fun, when you are out, in gets really frustrating and painful.

My 2 cents.
THIS. It was awful. Definitely skipping this year. In theory, if they had enough tables, cash would be good with that many people in town. But, our smaller game got moved to the Kings Lounge which comes with that extra rake. Much better off with some of the other marquee events, IMO. Milly maker or monster stack, etc.
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12-24-2019 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TARAINSC
THIS. It was awful. Definitely skipping this year. In theory, if they had enough tables, cash would be good with that many people in town. But, our smaller game got moved to the Kings Lounge which comes with that extra rake. Much better off with some of the other marquee events, IMO. Milly maker or monster stack, etc.
It was exciting. If you out just take Uber to any other casino and jump another tournament or cash games. Last year it was goldmine at cash games. Don't listen to grumpy pessimists. Enjoy experience and life or stay at home.
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12-24-2019 , 10:39 PM
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It was exciting. If you out just take Uber to any other casino and jump another tournament or cash games. Last year it was goldmine at cash games. Don't listen to grumpy pessimists. Enjoy experience and life or stay at home.
True on the cash at other properties. However, every place was a good 3 hour wait for a table that week, busiest I have ever seen all the poker rooms ever last summer
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12-25-2019 , 02:12 AM
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-If your plan is to register the morning of, it is likely you won't be able to as the event will be sold out.
After the first day, maybe two, they sold out the night before. They made the announcement in the the Pavilion.

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So, when you are in the Big 50 it is fun, when you are out, in gets really frustrating and painful.

My 2 cents.
I loved it because I ran deeper than any other bracelet event.

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Or just be smart about it and register online in advance( small fee but totally worth it if lines frustrate you).
Also, treat it as freeze out because reentering the same flight will be hard but if you have a credit card on file it is easy at the kiosk and saves hours.
Re-entering seems like a bad idea unless you're singularly focused on making the FT. You play a long time to make the money, and then move up the pay scale slowly because of the number of entrants. If you re-enter once or twice it's a lot of work just to break even.
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12-30-2019 , 02:17 AM
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Re-entering seems like a bad idea unless you're singularly focused on making the FT. You play a long time to make the money, and then move up the pay scale slowly because of the number of entrants. If you re-enter once or twice it's a lot of work just to break even.

This is a fairly common view but so nonsensical. Say you bust the Big 50 and say nope I’m not re-entering bc it’s a lot of work just to break even. The next day a different casino is running a $500 tourney. Would you fire it even though it might be hard to break even if you roll your Big 50 entry into that one?

It doesn’t matter how many bullets you are in for. If your next entry is +EV you should re-enter. Winning $800 on this bullet still means you have more money than you did when you made the decision to re-enter which is all that matters, not which tourneys you did or didn’t play before making a decision to re-enter.

If you are ever going to play a $500 event again it’s hard to imagine one that is much more +EV than the Big 50, huge soft field and good structure. So might as well use the bullets on that one if you have them.
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12-30-2019 , 03:16 PM
"Soft" field still depends a great deal on luck. My first day none of my tables were any softer than any other tournament I've played, and I only survived because those fools called my bluff shove and I got lucky on the runout. My second day first table was murderers row, with a bracelet winner and two other guys that were circuit ring winners to my left. The luckiest thing that happened to me that day was the table breaking after 1 level.
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12-31-2019 , 09:45 AM
Sure, but that applies to the first bullet just as it does the re-entry bullet(s).

You can always run bad on table draw but by definition a tourny with 27,000 entries is gonna be a soft field.

The point is “I’m not gonna reenter because I have too much in this tourney” is a sunk cost fallacy. If the tourney is worth playing and you can afford it, play. Otherwise don’t.
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12-31-2019 , 01:29 PM
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"Soft" field still depends a great deal on luck. My first day none of my tables were any softer than any other tournament I've played, and I only survived because those fools called my bluff shove and I got lucky on the runout. My second day first table was murderers row, with a bracelet winner and two other guys that were circuit ring winners to my left. The luckiest thing that happened to me that day was the table breaking after 1 level.
I played all day 1A, B, C and D last year, and despite my lack of results the field IS very soft. The number of troopers of show up in Vegas just to play this one tournament and said they played in WSOP is so high.

As for the comments in this thread about being pessimist: I am just realistic. I didn't say it is a bad tournament. I loved it. If you go, just don't expect to re-enter easily, make sure to register in advance & use the kiosk to print your tickets, and do not expect to be able to play other games at the Rio + wait tons of times in other venues. That said, if I could make it that week and play the Big 50 again, I'd probably do it. This tournament is so so soft and the structure is beautiful.
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01-01-2020 , 06:43 AM
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I played all day 1A, B, C and D last year, and despite my lack of results the field IS very soft. The number of troopers of show up in Vegas just to play this one tournament and said they played in WSOP is so high.
That's what I thought when I entered the thing. Then when I started playing I said "WTF? Where are all the terrible players?". I guess they were at your table, lol.

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As for the comments in this thread about being pessimist: I am just realistic. I didn't say it is a bad tournament. I loved it. If you go, just don't expect to re-enter easily, make sure to register in advance & use the kiosk to print your tickets, and do not expect to be able to play other games at the Rio + wait tons of times in other venues. That said, if I could make it that week and play the Big 50 again, I'd probably do it. This tournament is so so soft and the structure is beautiful.
That's the other aspect of re-entry - the line. Even if you have the credit card thing lined up, if you re-enter the same day, there's a long line of alternates you have to wait behind. The halls were packed with alternates waiting. It really sucks because you physically have to wait in line for your spot.

I guess if I were going to re-enter, it would be on a different day. The rough part is that by the time you get knocked out, the next day is probably full already and you'd have to register for the day after tomorrow.
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01-09-2020 , 10:22 AM
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That's the other aspect of re-entry - the line. Even if you have the credit card thing lined up, if you re-enter the same day, there's a long line of alternates you have to wait behind. The halls were packed with alternates waiting. It really sucks because you physically have to wait in line for your spot.

I guess if I were going to re-enter, it would be on a different day. The rough part is that by the time you get knocked out, the next day is probably full already and you'd have to register for the day after tomorrow.
THIS! You pinpointed the exact problem with this "too" successful tournament. The rest is great
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01-09-2020 , 11:55 PM
played it last year on a friday, structure is great for the first 6 hours but after you get to near dinner break, youre either deep or or super short. no in between imo
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01-09-2020 , 11:58 PM
soft field these days is super dependent. some tables have 5-7 tourists others are tables with like 7 people with glasses and headphones 2030 somethig yr olds just trying to take it down
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01-10-2020 , 01:38 AM
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played it last year on a friday, structure is great for the first 6 hours but after you get to near dinner break, youre either deep or or super short. no in between imo

This makes no sense. There is nothing to the structure that creates (or could create) this dynamic. The average stack remained solidly deep for at least the first two days of the tourney.

A starting stack the level after dinner break (400 minutes of play in) is still 25 big blinds. So even if you reg after dinner you aren’t “super short”.
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01-10-2020 , 04:36 PM
i stupidly thought that then with no info. my table was super short with no one having a big stack at all and was pretty thin but didn tknow around me. just felt that way.

anyone have the link that shows what day 1b and so forth is? i know it got pasted but it was kinda crunched up hard ot read want to make sur I get my info right
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01-10-2020 , 05:25 PM
Anyone know if they will improve the pre-reg process this year? Last summer I pre-regged for this event. But the Credit Card verification process was a nightmare with 2 hour+ lines just to verify your CC. And there was chaos throughout with most employees giving false or conflicting information. I understand that once you verify, you're good to go for the rest of the series (and indeed a year), but if they're going to hold the most logistically challenging event right up front, I think they need to reconsider the CC verification process.

Also, I never understood the need to verify the CC annually. Your CC either works because it is valid and unexpired, or it doesn't. Why the need to re-verify?
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01-10-2020 , 08:03 PM
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i stupidly thought that then with no info. my table was super short with no one having a big stack at all and was pretty thin but didn tknow around me. just felt that way.

anyone have the link that shows what day 1b and so forth is? i know it got pasted but it was kinda crunched up hard ot read want to make sur I get my info right
That's weird. I guess that can happen if nobody busts out and you just keep trading chips to each other.
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01-10-2020 , 08:46 PM
Here's day 1b but I didn't see any counts so I didn't figure out what average stack was. FWIW my stack wasn't a lot above average and I started day 2 with roughly 50 bigs.

https://www.pokernews.com/tours/wsop...-big-50/day1b/
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01-13-2020 , 12:27 PM
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Anyone know if they will improve the pre-reg process this year? Last summer I pre-regged for this event. But the Credit Card verification process was a nightmare with 2 hour+ lines just to verify your CC. And there was chaos throughout with most employees giving false or conflicting information. I understand that once you verify, you're good to go for the rest of the series (and indeed a year), but if they're going to hold the most logistically challenging event right up front, I think they need to reconsider the CC verification process.

Also, I never understood the need to verify the CC annually. Your CC either works because it is valid and unexpired, or it doesn't. Why the need to re-verify?
Another convenient way is what I did last year:
-Go deposit cash (enough to cover all the tournaments you plan to play) on your WSOP account. To do so, just visit the main cage.
-You will be able to register online and use the kiosks then

It is, IMO, the best way to go. That is, if you can manage to go to Vegas with enough cash, or get someone to deliver you enough in Vegas (trading bitcoins works pretty well).
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