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Originally Posted by Poker_King
When you look at the structure sheet of the big50 it runs faster than average deep stack tournaments. The huge big-blind-ante accelerated increase will make this one not much slower than your average $500 buy-in. Of course, promotion and advertising can show otherwise.
Allow me to explain myself, and let me know if I was wrong.
If you compare the big50 to the 2018 colossus you will find that:- big50 ante is 25X times more than the Colossus 2018.
- big 50 bb-sb is 3.5X more than Colossus 2018.
Example:- Big50 level 10 ante/blinds are: 2,500, 1,000-2,500
- Colossus 2018 level 10 ante/blinds are: 100, 400-800
- By end of day 2 your last level will be played is level 20 which will be at 25,000, 10,000-25,000 whereas level 20 in last years Colossus is 1000, 4,000-8,000.
Now... even if they doubled the starting stack and time for the big50, it will still finish as fast as any other deep stack tourney.
We have gone through this. It does NOT run faster than other tourneys. The levels increase very gradually, and 50 minute levels are long for a $500 buyin. The only difference is that antes start from the start, which is fine, given how deep you start.
Lots of numbers below, tl;dr: uh, yeah, Big 50 is immensely deeper than Colossus 18.
Comparing to Colossus last year:
Big50 has 50 minute levels and 50,000 chips
Colossus had 30 minute levels for Day 1, 60 minutes after that, and 5,000 chips
Do you really not understand how much worse a structure would have to be to offset having Day 1 levels that are more than 50% longer and TEN TIMES THE STARTING CHIPS??????
Colossus 2018 played 18 30 min levels on Day 1 last year (540 minutes of poker).
At the start of Day 2, blinds were 3/6/1k, making an orbit cost of 19k. A starting stack was just over .25 orbits deep.
Big50 2019 will play 12 50 min levels on Day 1 this year (600 minutes of poker).
At the start of Day 2, blinds will be 3/5/5k, making an orbit cost of 13k. A starting stack will be over 3 orbits deep.
So Big 50 this year will start Day 2 with a roughly 50% cheaper orbit cost, and TWELVE TIMES DEEPER based on the starting stack/orbit cost ratio.
OK, so what about those 60 minute levels on Day 2 on Colossus, how much does that help?
Day 2 of Colossus played ten 60 min levels. At the start of Day 3, blinds were 30/60/10k. Orbit cost 190k. If you had 100 starting stacks (500k chips), you had about 2.5 orbits left.
Day 2 of Big 50 plays eight 50 min levels. At the start of Day 3, blinds will be 15/30/30k. Orbit cost 75k. If you have 100 starting stacks (5M chips), you have 67 orbits left.
Now Colossus has played a bit more poker through two days (1140 minutes to 1000), but the orbit cost is 2.5 times higher still, and the cost per orbit to starting stack ratio is ASTRONOMICALLY in favor of Big 50.
Let's add 3 more levels to Big 50, to compare 1140 minutes of Colossus 18 to 1150 minutes of Big 50 19.
Starting level 24 for Big 50: 30/60/60k. Orbit cost 150k. 100 starting stacks are 33.3 orbits.
So through the same amount of time played as two full days of Colossus, the Big 50 has a lesser orbit cost, and stacks to orbit ratio still more than TWELVE TIMES DEEPER than Colossus.
Poker King, you are presenting things like they are opinion, but these are matters of math and fact, and you are dramatically incorrect.