That's not enough information to make a decision. And that's kinda the point of S-Points.

Colossus
Level 4 -> 25, 75, 150
Level 10 -> 100, 400, 800

1pm DeepStacks
Level 4 -> 25, 150, 300
Level 10 -> 400, 1000, 2000

And that's not even taking into consideration that Level 10 of the Deepstacks is timewise equivalent to only Level 7 of the Cololssus.

You can't go just by starting stack. You can't just go by level length. You can't just go by blinds at a level. S-Points takes all that into consideration.

Math is Overrated Barry Greenstein

Is it true that you get no tier credits when you play cash games in the pavilion as opposed to getting 17 or 34 tc per hour if you play in the little poker room by the sports book ?

I did read the link, you condescending ****. I know you might think the basic math involved in the calculations is advanced given your 6th grade level of education, but for those of us with doctorate degrees, it’s not too difficult to understand. What I’m saying that you don’t understand is the calculations don’t quite add up to what matters to me when I play in a tournament and don’t weigh heavily enough on the early stages of donkaments that I’m sure you’re used to playing in with your minimal bankroll. So stop being an ignorant douchebag, Mr. Etough guy.

Thank you, looks like Venetian hdeepstack tourney has an pats of 104. That seems better than collosus then. I hope they fix the colossus better next year to make it more slower or something. Looks like there are way better low buy in tourneys at Venetian than wsop

Whoops, I tapped the glass. Sorry everyone!

Deeper. Not necessarily better. Some players prefer the short stack play

I thought I saw a sign that you get something in King's Room.

Venetian prize pools are much smaller.

One thing s points doesn't consider is average prize pool. I don't care if a tourney has the best structure on earth if there's only $500 in the prize pool.

I think I see what happened with the different deepstacks. Maybe they all had the same structure last year, but this year someone wanted to monkey with bb antes. I would probably want to play the 4 pm the most, but not if prize pools are small.

I looked for where the results are stored but I couldn't find it.

Found the deepstack results. For the 7th the 1 pm had over 1000 entries and the 4 pm had less than 300. Guess I need to play the worse structure to go after the bigger prize.

From the FAQ's and registration

http://www.wsop.com/2018/registration/

What forms of payment are accepted at the Rio?
Cash, live Casino Chips, Cashiers Check and Wire Transfers (5 day waiting period for either). Credit cards will be accepted in-person once the WSOP Cashiers Cage opens on May 29th.

What forms of payment are accepted for Online-Registration?
- Cashier’s Check and Wire Transfers (10 day waiting period for either)
- Credit Cards (for events with buy-ins of $10,000 or less.)(available until the close of registration for the event.)

Fees
The payment required for participation in any Tournament event is the full amount of the event's entry fee, which includes an administrative fee to cover necessary Tournament staffing, materials and related administrative costs. There are additional fees applicable to online registration and the chosen method of payment. Additional Fees: There will be a $3 processing fee added to each event transaction for using the online registration system. Credit cards are charged an additional 2.95% fee to use this method of payment. (Fees for American Express are 3.95%) In addition, anyone who uses a wire-transfer or cashier's check are still subject to any fees their bank imposes (the WSOP does not impose any fees). These are typical fees used in the payment processing industry for online transactions of this nature, by the vendors and providers of these services. Participant is responsible for payment of the full registration amount and all applicable fees.

to the person earlier asking about address - it doesn't matter.

I had to get a new total rewards card, forgot mine - they asked to confirm my address in the system. Didn't matter what my license said or their system said - she would go with whatever address I asked them to use.

(though weird thing is same thing happened at tournament registration since even though at total rewards, i updated to my new current address, they still had old one in the system. so the 2nd person changed my address again. Then at tourney cash, again, confirm address, again they still had old address in system and updated it. doesn't matter if your license is your actual address or if their system has actual address or neither - they'll just type in whatever you tell them and move on.)

Yeah the 1pm gets more entrants than the other 3 deepstacks combined. Not exactly sure why that is, because the 4pm does have a better structure (albeit marginally).

Plog’s methodology is pretty sound, and his structure analysis is as good or better than any others I have seen. That doesn’t mean it’s perfect. I agree with the gist of De. Meh’s point. The s-point formula tends to put weight on levels where much of the field has been eliminated. I noticed this in his comparison of the 2017 and 2018 WSOP Monsterstack, where according to s-point analysis, the structure has gotten quite a bit worse.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...&postcount=147

18 levels means something very different in a 30-min level event compared to 60-min. In the latter, the vast majority of the field is eliminated by those late levels. I think the formula would be better if it somehow normalized for day 1 (or at least pre-money bubble) levels.

It's probably carryover from previous years where they had the same structure but more chips in the earlier one. Part of it might also be people rebelling against the big blind ante in the 4 pm.

I saw some comments about 5-6 pages back about the $185 Megas, anyone have a pulse on recent numbers for the 9am, about how many players/packages being awarded, wondering if I should play some during my trip next week, or just play STS for tourney chips. If those numbers are bad maybe just play the DDS or other NLHE single day tourneys around town.

What has the temperature been like in the Event playing areas this year.

Are they hanging meat or has the air conditioning not kept up with the outside conditions this year ?

Is the $10k Dealer's Choice going to be streamed tonight?

About the same as always, maybe a degree warmer.

thursday and friday the AC broke for several hours and it was uncomfortably hot in the afternoon/evening in the main tournament area. probably not quite as hot as outside, but people were literally sweating and they made regular announcements over the PA "we know we know, they're working on it" that sort of thing.

I have been keeping an eye on these myself and the number has been varying from low 30's to upper 40s. I think it depends on what event is going on that day and how popular it will be, etc.

However, today (milly maker) they had 82 or something close to 80 (like maybe 81 or 84). I also hadn't checked last saturday so this may be normal for a big a weekend event.

Can someone please confirm I will need my CA drivers license to register if I am a US citizen? My wallet was stolen and the DMV's next appointment is in 6 weeks. The local DMV has a line wrapped around the building everyday...

I have my players card and passport. If someone could ask next time they are at the cage I would greatly appreciate it!

Have you read this document?

Hey guys, hope someone can properly advise.

I was going to bring a wad of cash with me on the plane slightly under 10k but was advised that might not be the best idea. I was told that I can bring a cashiers/certified check with me instead and bring it to the cage to cash it. Any idea how this works? Who it should be made out to, and what fees there are to cash it? It doesn't have to be at the Rio, I'm staying elsewhere are would do it elsewhere, if for example, the fees are lower elsewhere.

Thanks in advance

I have typically taken $6-9K on the plane the last several years with no issue. On your person or in a bag that doesn’t leave your hands but for the x-ray machine should do the trick.