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06-05-2018 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Coug MJ
Also Sat/Sun/Mon flights instead of last year Fri/Sat/Sun could be part of the lower #'s too.
Monday's flights had the largest amount of entrants though.

And as far as doubling the chips and making it 40 minute levels, that would be nice but it would probably make the tournament last a lot longer with the huge amount of entries.
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06-05-2018 , 08:31 PM
I also think most people will skip colossus to play the double stack.
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06-05-2018 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Billy723
Yes, that was the case the last 2 years, but the structure sheet this year says that each flight will be playing down to 15% instead of a certain level. Not a bad change as they were only 100 & 30 players away from the $ at the start of day2 the last 2 years.
They do not want to risk getting into the money on day one. Playing to a certain level could risk that. Instead, they will stop just prior to the bubble on each day 1 flight.
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06-05-2018 , 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by kslghost
I wonder if this year's number will spur a change for next year to make it a bit less of a crap shoot. I mean it is kind of in their interest to eliminate as many people as possible early so that you can encourage people to enter on more than one day, but if people start to look at it solely as a crap shoot, that becomes a problem.
Yeah. I've fired 8 colossus bullets the last 2 years and it's the only tournament I can recall where the fish seem to have contempt for the structure. It's one thing if regs complain, but if donators recognize that your structure sucks you've probably crossed a line.
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06-05-2018 , 10:35 PM
I hate keeping up with these reward type programs, but I have a (paid) reservation at Harrah's the last week of June and I see I'm like 20 hours away from getting Platinum status, so I'll get it before I leave. Will that do anything for me offer-wise when I get it? Is system sophisticated enough to see I already have the reservation made and therefore not give an offer over that time frame of the reservation?
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06-05-2018 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by businessdude
I hate keeping up with these reward type programs, but I have a (paid) reservation at Harrah's the last week of June and I see I'm like 20 hours away from getting Platinum status, so I'll get it before I leave. Will that do anything for me offer-wise when I get it? Is system sophisticated enough to see I already have the reservation made and therefore not give an offer over that time frame of the reservation?
Get platinum, go to total rewards website, check offers and also what prices would be if you booked on that day, if cheaper call Total rewards and ask to update reservation.

Even though you have a current reservation for the same time frame you can price out the same time frame online.

I always book my WSOP trips months in advance and keep checking back until i leave for cheaper rates and call to have it changed if price dropped. As an example, 2 weeks ago my total cost dropped another $20, i called, they updated the res.
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06-05-2018 , 11:29 PM
Do they play any six-plus/short deck hold em’ anywhere in Vegas? I’ve never seen or heard of it running anywhere but it looks fun. I figure if it’s anywhere in the states it’d be in Vegas.
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06-06-2018 , 12:15 AM
Hey guys,

Going to my first WSOP (from overseas). The WSOP faq online does say that you can use credit cards to buy into events but can someone please confirm this is indeed the case? Also can you buy into other tournies at other casino's with a credit card?

Also which casino will have the best NLH 2/5 cash games?

Thanks
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06-06-2018 , 07:40 AM
Conformed however they tack on a 3% charge. Also not all credit cards will work. Best to buy at least one tournament entry online to make sure your card will work. Once you get on site and show them the card and your ID, then you can use it to buy other buyins fairly quickly and avoid some lines.

I am not aware of any other casinos that allow buyins with credit cards.

I am not a NLH cash game player. I like to play the PLO 1/2/5 and Big O 1/2/5 cash tables at the World Series.
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06-06-2018 , 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by rubixxcube
Get platinum, go to total rewards website, check offers and also what prices would be if you booked on that day, if cheaper call Total rewards and ask to update reservation.

Even though you have a current reservation for the same time frame you can price out the same time frame online.

I always book my WSOP trips months in advance and keep checking back until i leave for cheaper rates and call to have it changed if price dropped. As an example, 2 weeks ago my total cost dropped another $20, i called, they updated the res.
Ditto - Book mine in January and have had TWO price reductions for my 10 day stay at the Rio - Significant money difference ON THE ROOM of $400 for that period - just by checking back on the rates and requesting an adjustment which TR has been very helpful with - just send them a screen print for proof and they will honor the change. Realize that you can always cancel the old reservation and book new if you run into any issue. Same room just a lot lower cost but the rates do jump around - and as of yesterday were NOT as good as last weeks
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06-06-2018 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by RedOak
They do not want to risk getting into the money on day one. Playing to a certain level could risk that. Instead, they will stop just prior to the bubble on each day 1 flight.
Risk getting into the money??? That's the the whole point of playing down to 15%, so that everyone that still has chips at the end of day 1 IS IN THE MONEY. On the structure sheet, it also states that day 2 will resume at the youngest day 1 flight, meaning both flights will play down to exactly 15% of the field, whichever level that might be on each flight.
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06-06-2018 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by arsenal321
Hey guys,

Going to my first WSOP (from overseas). The WSOP faq online does say that you can use credit cards to buy into events but can someone please confirm this is indeed the case? Also can you buy into other tournies at other casino's with a credit card?

Also which casino will have the best NLH 2/5 cash games?
Credit cards DO work for WSOP registration, although as you know, there is a processing fee that will be attached. It is disclosed at the time of the online registration, so you will know the precise number. American Express is slightly higher. You will also have to deal with the prospect of foreign transaction fees or currency fluctuations that could impact the final amount you see on your statement.

I am not aware, unfortunately, of any other properties that allow for the use of cards to pay the entry fees...trust me, I have been asking for a few years now since I can make the rewards structures pay it back in a manner better than the surcharge charged for processing.

Best 2/5 cash game is dependent on so many variables. I LOVED the one I was in Monday at the Aria but other days, there would have been better games elsewhere just because of table dynamics. Any of the low stakes games are going to have the potential to be good no matter where on the Strip you are playing.
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06-07-2018 , 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by kslghost
The Colossus is going to see a 30% or so decrease in field size this year. Does anyone have an idea of why? Are people just sick of the fact that it seems like a crap shoot after 18000 entries played last year? Or are there just better options around town?

Or is it because the Vegas Knights and NBA Finals are distracting people from the tables?

Also worth noting that the Colossus has gotten smaller every single year, while other tourneys have been okay, so perhaps it's just people not interested in the structure anymore.

Various reasons. There are more and more cheap ways to win a bracelet than there was the first 1-2 years of the Colossus [The uniqueness died].

The structure is bad but there is no real way to fix a tournament of that magitude without it being a bit of a loss for the casino and staff [Unless you are ready to pay more juice to extend the tournament].

And yes, the competition continues to grow so alternatives are getting more promotion.


Still, overall, a chance to turn $565 into a million will guarantee a 5-digit following for years to come.
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06-08-2018 , 04:59 AM
Sorry for asking this, I really want to go next year to get the feel. I don’t want to spend more than 600$ for a tourney tho.

Woulwhats the best structure tourney for me to play at? I don’t want to play a fast turbo event. Which will have the best structure? Giant, colossus or the daily deep??

Thank you
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06-08-2018 , 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by the pleasure
Sorry for asking this, I really want to go next year to get the feel. I don’t want to spend more than 600$ for a tourney tho.

Woulwhats the best structure tourney for me to play at? I don’t want to play a fast turbo event. Which will have the best structure? Giant, colossus or the daily deep??

Thank you
Here are the S-points for the various tournaments. The higher the S-points, the better the structure.

Colossus 57 S-pts
Giant 39 S-pts
4pm DDS 43 S-pts
7pm DDS 37 S-pts
1pm DDS 34 S-pts
10pm DDS 27 S-pts

http://www.rainbowspuppiessunshine.c...1=2018&s_Text=
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06-08-2018 , 11:16 AM
I'm traveling to the Rio in hopes of playing the Little One For One Drop Event (#68C), the flight starting on Monday morning. This will be my first WSOP event and I have two questions I'm struggling to answer:

1) My Driver's License doesn't match my current address (or even state). I barely ever drive and never bothered to update it. My passport does match my current address, however. Will that pose an issue? Should I bring both documents, or any other proof of address?

2) Is the Monday morning flight of this event and similar events the most popular? How frequently do they hit a registration cap? I'm hoping to register for the event in-person on Sunday, just to avoid any BS (and fees) with online registration. Is that risky? How packed is the Rio this year?

Thanks so much for your help.
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06-08-2018 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by okidail
I'm traveling to the Rio in hopes of playing the Little One For One Drop Event (#68C), the flight starting on Monday morning. This will be my first WSOP event and I have two questions I'm struggling to answer:

1) My Driver's License doesn't match my current address (or even state). I barely ever drive and never bothered to update it. My passport does match my current address, however. Will that pose an issue? Should I bring both documents, or any other proof of address?

2) Is the Monday morning flight of this event and similar events the most popular? How frequently do they hit a registration cap? I'm hoping to register for the event in-person on Sunday, just to avoid any BS (and fees) with online registration. Is that risky? How packed is the Rio this year?

Thanks so much for your help.
You should definitely BRING both documents but I would only show them the passport. I think only one valid form of id is ok. The bigger problem might come at cash out time but I still think the passport would suffice (assuming it isn’t expired).

I wouldn’t worry about preregistration or long lines. The Rio is always busy this time of year but when I was there a few days ago, it wasn’t crazy packed or anything. I can’t speak to how busy that flight for that event will be but generally speaking, Monday isn’t terribly busy.
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06-08-2018 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by patstap2
Here are the S-points for the various tournaments. The higher the S-points, the better the structure.

Colossus 57 S-pts
Giant 39 S-pts
4pm DDS 43 S-pts
7pm DDS 37 S-pts
1pm DDS 34 S-pts
10pm DDS 27 S-pts

http://www.rainbowspuppiessunshine.c...1=2018&s_Text=
Why isn’t starting stack factored in?
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06-08-2018 , 12:40 PM
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Why isn’t starting stack factored in?
It is:

http://www.rainbowspuppiessunshine.c...about.php#Math
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06-08-2018 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by patstap2
Here are the S-points for the various tournaments. The higher the S-points, the better the structure.

Colossus 57 S-pts
Giant 39 S-pts
4pm DDS 43 S-pts
7pm DDS 37 S-pts
1pm DDS 34 S-pts
10pm DDS 27 S-pts

http://www.rainbowspuppiessunshine.c...1=2018&s_Text=
That seems like basically the opposite of the way they play. I thought the 1, 4, and 7 pm deepstacks all used the same structure but you get the most chips in the 1.

Collosal is terrible to play in because of the short starting stack.
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06-08-2018 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by okidail
I'm traveling to the Rio in hopes of playing the Little One For One Drop Event (#68C), the flight starting on Monday morning. This will be my first WSOP event and I have two questions I'm struggling to answer:

1) My Driver's License doesn't match my current address (or even state). I barely ever drive and never bothered to update it. My passport does match my current address, however. Will that pose an issue? Should I bring both documents, or any other proof of address?

2) Is the Monday morning flight of this event and similar events the most popular? How frequently do they hit a registration cap? I'm hoping to register for the event in-person on Sunday, just to avoid any BS (and fees) with online registration. Is that risky? How packed is the Rio this year?

Thanks so much for your help.
Not sure if you're from the United States. But WSOP tweeted out before the series started that a passport alone would not be good enough because it does not have a mailing address so you might as well just bring drivers license.

Events won't get capped out and lines are fine unless you're registering in the 10 minutes before the event starts
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06-08-2018 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dimeat
Not sure if you're from the United States. But WSOP tweeted out before the series started that a passport alone would not be good enough because it does not have a mailing address so you might as well just bring drivers license.

Events won't get capped out and lines are fine unless you're registering in the 10 minutes before the event starts
Thanks. I am from the US. My concern is that my Drivers License doesn't match my current mailing address (or state of residence). Was trying to spare myself a visit to the DMV, but I might as well get an updated one just in case. Thanks again.
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06-08-2018 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
That seems like basically the opposite of the way they play. I thought the 1, 4, and 7 pm deepstacks all used the same structure but you get the most chips in the 1.

Collosal is terrible to play in because of the short starting stack.
The deepstacks have different structures and different level lengths, in addition to different stack sizes.
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06-08-2018 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Aces 518
The deepstacks have different structures and different level lengths, in addition to different stack sizes.
Yes but it still doesn’t seem right. I’d rather play in a 20,000 chip deepstack with 20 minute levels than a 5,000 chip Colossus with 30 minute levels. The thing that’s throwing off these calculations is that Colossus goes to 60 minute levels on day two and beyond. So if you can make it past the donkfest that is day one with a decent stack, Colossus becomes much more playable. Unfortunately, it somewhat skews these calculations to make the overall structure seem better than it is.
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06-08-2018 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Meh
Yes but it still doesn’t seem right. I’d rather play in a 20,000 chip deepstack with 20 minute levels than a 5,000 chip Colossus with 30 minute levels. The thing that’s throwing off these calculations is that Colossus goes to 60 minute levels on day two and beyond. So if you can make it past the donkfest that is day one with a decent stack, Colossus becomes much more playable. Unfortunately, it somewhat skews these calculations to make the overall structure seem better than it is.
I'm sure you already did your research on this because the link was provided to you previously which showed the math behind the calculation, and that you fully understand all of it. It's definitely just oversight on your part that the highest level used in these calculations is level 18 which is the last level of 30 minute levels on day 1, and as such the 60 minute levels are irrelevant to this analysis, but you totally knew that because you definitely understand the math.
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