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05-31-2018 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by madangrypally
I would expect a 2-3 hour wait in line if it is right before it starts. Most of the named bracelet events like Marathon, Milly Maker, Monster Stack, Giant, and the Colossal will have long lines right before they start.

Not sure if this year more people will register online but I would really consider it if I was you. Would likely be much easier getting your ticket so you are dealt the first hand.
It doesn't seem possible for me to register online. Everything says you have to "verify" your card the first time you use the Fastrac system and you have to do that a full hour before your first event. I'm not likely to be there by 10 AM to do that. And if I can't, then I have to register normally anyway.
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06-01-2018 , 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by AllInNTheDark
PH has the worst group of dealers by far (although they also have some really good ones). The only other place I've had such poor dealers was WSOP, but that was a few years back and they seem to be much improved since then. I've only played like 3 MTTs at PH and had more problems there (and these were no more than 2 diff. games per MTT) than everywhere else combined (dozens of MTTs).

It's not just dealers that don't know games, but also:

* lazy dealers (one guy exposed one of my cards twice in 2-3 hands with his nonchalant dealing style)
* puzzling floor decisions (combining tables in PLO/PLO8 MTT and not drawing for game... just deciding that since MTT started with PLO, new table would start with PLO... and not listening to resulting protests from most of table)
* many chairs that are so wobbly, with multiple bent legs, that they need to be recycled or w/e (and sometimes have to go thru a few to find a decent one)
* cocktail servers that go AWOL at the worst times

Still, realize that it's all relative... it hasn't been so bad that it would cause me to skip a good MTT there... it's just frustrating as hell.



Yep
I did not witness this but rather heard from a guy i played day 1 with...Last year day 2 of goliath milly a table collapsed spilling chips everywhere.
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06-01-2018 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by DevWil
Eh...? It seems like bad players is going to be way more +EV and way less frustrating than bad dealers 100% of the time. I just don't understand preferring the proposition of misdeals versus the proposition of a super soft field.

Unrelated: can anybody confirm whether Day 1 of the Millionaire Maker pays? There's an outside chance that it would make sense for me to play, but only if I will have made money already if I make Day 2.

The EOD 1 report for 2017's MM has them a few spots from the bubble, but the 2018 sheet says Day 1 plays down to 15% of the field, which I believe is what WSOP always pays, right?

The 2017 sheet doesn't say anything like that for day one, so I'm just wondering if they've changed this and I can count on having money to change my travel details if I make Day 2.

(Some other WSOP 2018 sheets like $565 PLO are very explicit about Day 1 paying, so I'm just a little confused.)
Same question about Milly Maker. Any update/answer??
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06-01-2018 , 11:12 AM
Just a few questions. Tried to see if they had already been asked.

Are there any live WSOP sats running in Europe?
Can the 888 Main event package $12.5K ( I think) be used to play multiple smaller buy-in events instead of the main event?
If not what other sites offer side event satellites?

I would much prefer to play 10 side events rather than the main event. There must be sat packages for this but i cant find any.
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06-01-2018 , 02:07 PM
the way I'm reading it, yes you will be in the money if you make day 2 of the millionaire maker, but I would think you have to wait until you bust to get paid
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06-01-2018 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jmmj05
the way I'm reading it, yes you will be in the money if you make day 2 of the millionaire maker, but I would think you have to wait until you bust to get paid
Sure. The timing of the actual transaction wouldn't matter a ton for me, so that's not a problem.
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06-01-2018 , 05:16 PM
I am going to enter the WSOP Monster stack and trying to decide which will be best for me and could use some advice.

I will be flying in on June 22 and the Monster Stack day one is June 23 and 24 with day two on the 25. Venetian has a good $600 tournament I wouldn't mind entering but its day one is also on the 23 and 24 with day two on the 25. I only will bite one bullet for the Monster stack.

Seems like an easy solution just do Monster Stack on the 23 and if I get knocked out then do the Venetian one on the 24. The issue is I am unsure if I should just jump into what to me will be my biggest tournament without first getting in the poker mindset. Should I do a small tournament on June 23 to prepare me for the Monster Stack on the 24.

I know it is not much of a problem but I keep going back and forth on what I should do. lol.
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06-01-2018 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by madangrypally
I am going to enter the WSOP Monster stack and trying to decide which will be best for me and could use some advice.

I will be flying in on June 22 and the Monster Stack day one is June 23 and 24 with day two on the 25. Venetian has a good $600 tournament I wouldn't mind entering but its day one is also on the 23 and 24 with day two on the 25. I only will bite one bullet for the Monster stack.

Seems like an easy solution just do Monster Stack on the 23 and if I get knocked out then do the Venetian one on the 24. The issue is I am unsure if I should just jump into what to me will be my biggest tournament without first getting in the poker mindset. Should I do a small tournament on June 23 to prepare me for the Monster Stack on the 24.

I know it is not much of a problem but I keep going back and forth on what I should do. lol.
You didn't say what time your flight gets in - could you play something on the 22nd? There is a Venetian $400 at noon (you could late reg if you need to) that you could play if you wanted to warm up. Or maybe one of the DDS tournaments at the Rio later in the day/evening? The problem with what you want to do is there aren't really any good one-day tournament options on the 23rd, and even if there was you don't want to run deep and then get no sleep for your Monster Stack flight. But if you could play something that started midday or late on the 22nd, you can avoid that problem.
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06-01-2018 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by madangrypally
I am going to enter the WSOP Monster stack and trying to decide which will be best for me and could use some advice.

I will be flying in on June 22 and the Monster Stack day one is June 23 and 24 with day two on the 25. Venetian has a good $600 tournament I wouldn't mind entering but its day one is also on the 23 and 24 with day two on the 25. I only will bite one bullet for the Monster stack.

Seems like an easy solution just do Monster Stack on the 23 and if I get knocked out then do the Venetian one on the 24. The issue is I am unsure if I should just jump into what to me will be my biggest tournament without first getting in the poker mindset. Should I do a small tournament on June 23 to prepare me for the Monster Stack on the 24.

I know it is not much of a problem but I keep going back and forth on what I should do. lol.
That's the only option. Monster stack is thankfully a freeze-out event
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06-02-2018 , 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by madangrypally
I am going to enter the WSOP Monster stack and trying to decide which will be best for me and could use some advice.

I will be flying in on June 22 and the Monster Stack day one is June 23 and 24 with day two on the 25. Venetian has a good $600 tournament I wouldn't mind entering but its day one is also on the 23 and 24 with day two on the 25. I only will bite one bullet for the Monster stack.

Seems like an easy solution just do Monster Stack on the 23 and if I get knocked out then do the Venetian one on the 24. The issue is I am unsure if I should just jump into what to me will be my biggest tournament without first getting in the poker mindset. Should I do a small tournament on June 23 to prepare me for the Monster Stack on the 24.

I know it is not much of a problem but I keep going back and forth on what I should do. lol.
I also like to come to town a couple days prior to a big event, not only to get my feet wet in a smaller tournament, but also allow my body to adjust a little to the time zone difference and environment. To be honest, in my experience, playing a warm up event, just for the sake of playing, isn’t necessarily a benefit beyond whatever psychological effect it has. The level of play and structures are often so different that there isn’t typically much that carries over. But if you do want to get a feeling for competition, I would recommend finding a sit-n-go somewhere which fits your schedule. Again, obviously, the experience will be very different from something like the MS, but at least it allows for a lot of flexibility time-wise and won’t threaten to mess you up with sleep. And who knows, if you run good, and depending on the size of the sit-n-go, maybe it can pay for some or all of your larger buy-ins.
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06-03-2018 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGreatCornholio
Was open 24 hours a day last year, but I can’t say for sure about this year, but I assume it would be the same.
Big help. Thanks.
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06-05-2018 , 04:40 AM
The Colossus is going to see a 30% or so decrease in field size this year. Does anyone have an idea of why? Are people just sick of the fact that it seems like a crap shoot after 18000 entries played last year? Or are there just better options around town?

Or is it because the Vegas Knights and NBA Finals are distracting people from the tables?

Also worth noting that the Colossus has gotten smaller every single year, while other tourneys have been okay, so perhaps it's just people not interested in the structure anymore.
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06-05-2018 , 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by kslghost
The Colossus is going to see a 30% or so decrease in field size this year. Does anyone have an idea of why? Are people just sick of the fact that it seems like a crap shoot after 18000 entries played last year? Or are there just better options around town?

Or is it because the Vegas Knights and NBA Finals are distracting people from the tables?

Also worth noting that the Colossus has gotten smaller every single year, while other tourneys have been okay, so perhaps it's just people not interested in the structure anymore.
Colossus is a rubbish tournament.

Far better value tournaments at this price point at Venetian/planet Hollywood
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06-05-2018 , 12:35 PM
The Colossus is terrible for the first couple of breaks. 5,000 starting chips is nothing. The structure improves dramatically on days 2 and 3. Of course the chances of getting to those days without firing several bullets are pretty slim.
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06-05-2018 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Kyle Saunders
Colossus is a rubbish tournament.

Far better value tournaments at this price point at Venetian/planet Hollywood
+1 - I played it the first year where day 1 levels were 40 minutes and it was still fast. I have not played it since.
I think the first few years it was more popular because it was the first $500 bracelet event and lot of people just wanted to play a WSOP event who hadn't previously.

Now the structure is worse, people have checked off playing a WSOP event and there are also now multiple other lower priced WSOP events. Add in that if you were going to fire 2 bullets at the colossus there are better 1k/1500 events in WSOP or other properties to instead fire 1 bullet at, as 2 Col bullets are $1130, or even better structured 500 events to fire multiple bullets at.

Last year had 18k entrants, interested to see final numbers for this year, WSOP has not posted prize pool and i'm too lazy to go through each days report and do the math.
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06-05-2018 , 01:02 PM
13,071 entries this year, says on the combined ABCDEF flights chip count report.

18,054 last year.
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06-05-2018 , 01:04 PM
I also would be not be surprised if the schedule this year (Sat/Sun/Mon day 1s) turned people off when compared to last year (Fri/Sat/Sun).
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06-05-2018 , 01:43 PM
Yeah Colossus is pretty bad. I played it the first two years. First year was actually pretty fun because it was new/novel and I ran like Jesus on day 1. Structure just makes it into such a donkament by about level 6/7, I think i'd always rather play a $1k or $1500 event with a bit slower structure.

I could be wrong but I think the daily deepstacks had a better structure than the Colossus, for half the buyin.
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06-05-2018 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Utah_CUtiger
13,071 entries this year, says on the combined ABCDEF flights chip count report.

18,054 last year.
I wasn’t shocked . Even though I played.

There was huge concent between players that
either increase stack to $10000 or make level
1 hour long. Me and other players let them know
on Twitter , but looks like they didn’t care.
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06-05-2018 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Coug MJ
Same question about Milly Maker. Any update/answer??
End of day 1 in the milly maker will NOT be in the money. If will just be a few players short of the bubble. So you will have to bust a few players on day 2 before you make it into the money.
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06-05-2018 , 06:00 PM
I wonder if this year's number will spur a change for next year to make it a bit less of a crap shoot. I mean it is kind of in their interest to eliminate as many people as possible early so that you can encourage people to enter on more than one day, but if people start to look at it solely as a crap shoot, that becomes a problem.
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06-05-2018 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RedOak
End of day 1 in the milly maker will NOT be in the money. If will just be a few players short of the bubble. So you will have to bust a few players on day 2 before you make it into the money.
Yes, that was the case the last 2 years, but the structure sheet this year says that each flight will be playing down to 15% instead of a certain level. Not a bad change as they were only 100 & 30 players away from the $ at the start of day2 the last 2 years.
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06-05-2018 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Billy723
Yes, that was the case the last 2 years, but the structure sheet this year says that each flight will be playing down to 15% instead of a certain level. Not a bad change as they were only 100 & 30 players away from the $ at the start of day2 the last 2 years.
Couldn't you just say 130?
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06-05-2018 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by riverph7
I wasn’t shocked . Even though I played.

There was huge concent between players that
either increase stack to $10000 or make level
1 hour long. Me and other players let them know
on Twitter , but looks like they didn’t care.
10k chips, 40 min rds until FT, then 60. Seems like a reasonable compromise. Would change my mind to play.
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06-05-2018 , 07:28 PM
Also Sat/Sun/Mon flights instead of last year Fri/Sat/Sun could be part of the lower #'s too.
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