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Originally Posted by ItsJustLove
I only used their handout with the schedule on the desk..
Your first comment in this thread on this topic was "Why is the rake never poster anywhere? this **** is ool and downright criminal ".
You were told the rakes are posted clearly in at least two common-sense locations which are easily accessed online. You were given links.
Then you ignored the advice you were given and said you went to the cardplayer.com site to look at the schedule and the rake wasn't posted there.
And now you are saying you only used some sort of "handout" with the schedule on the desk. So, it seems you keep looking elsewhere. In any case, I have no idea which handout you're referring to, but I'd be surprised if the exact same structure sheets which are available online are not also available in paper form on location. And the structure sheets discuss all the fees withdrawn from the prizepool. So, considering the information you have been given, its difficult to take you seriously when you say things like "I've had trouble finding their rake for about 8 years now.". You sound like you are either extremely lazy, or just really disingenuous.
Anyhow, as big a stink as you have raised when it comes to the universal disclosure of fees, it's obviously not prevented you from consuming the Venetian's products over a long period of time, so I'm not really sure what the point of your anger is.
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Originally Posted by ItsJustLove
I want to live in a world where companies put their fees up front because they know they bring a valuable product that speaks for itself.
That world you want to live in is called the land of make-believe. I, for one, want to live in a world where people are actually capable of using their brains to consider things critically... a world where minor inconveniences do not bring about temper-tantrums... a world where the tiniest requirement of effort is not met with disdain. I'm afraid the world I want to live in quickly becoming imaginary as well.
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Originally Posted by ItsJustLove
... Not one where profit dictates everything.
Profit doesn't dictate everything... there's just a fixed amount of resources and an ever-growing number of people competing for those resources. But If you'd like to spell out exactly how your idea of a socialist utopia would work, I'm all ears.
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Originally Posted by ItsJustLove
...I miss the days where every tourney was xxx + xx which is so much better for competition with clearly stated fees and it's obvious who is pushing the rake up or down and who deserves credit for that.
What you miss is a figment of your imagination. There has never been a time when every tourney was advertised as xxx+xx. And even in cases when there were some percentage of tourneys listed as xxx+xx, it was often highly misleading, since their were things like "dealer fees" (which rarely, if ever actually went to the dealers, mind you), etc which were made much less visible. I do not consume the product of every single casino. But of the ones I do, I would say the Venetian is as, or more, up front about their fees than any of the others.
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Originally Posted by ItsJustLove
I think Venetian made some progress in other areas. The new spot was a move in the right direction that cannot be understated the staff have been impressive so far in my time playing 4 days of Mtt's there this month.
The Venetian has always done a great job of running their tournaments. One of the fears with such a big expansion, especially since the Venetian is one of the nicest cardrooms in Vegas, is that there maybe some degradation in quality (whether its the environment, dealers, service, whatever). A little degradation is understandable and ought to be expected, but of course, people will find a way to complain vehemently about anything. I'm glad to hear the new setup has been well-received so far and am really looking forward to checking it out for myself later this week.