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06-11-2017 , 07:20 PM
Well at least they got rid of the stupid 1st place Million pay out. They did move the Main to the front of the series (1st weekend of Labor Day).



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06-20-2017 , 04:26 PM
So they moved the main event to the front of the schedule and went down to 4 mega satellites crammed over 18 days in August? Only Winstar could screw up this tournament as bad as they have over the years. So glad we now have Choctaw offering several well run tournament series a year in DFW.
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06-20-2017 , 04:42 PM
I must be getting old can't see it too well.
Guess next time I'm in there, I'll pick one up.
Anything different besides that $1M 1st place guarantee?
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06-20-2017 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by J_early
So they moved the main event to the front of the schedule and went down to 4 mega satellites crammed over 18 days in August? Only Winstar could screw up this tournament as bad as they have over the years. So glad we now have Choctaw offering several well run tournament series a year in DFW.
The $1100 Bounty is a glorified Mega since they also add 8 seats.
They also have the Supers which they add 4 seats.
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06-21-2017 , 02:13 PM
Is there a readable link somewhere online that I am not seeing? I cannot view the posted images here...
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06-22-2017 , 07:15 AM
Not impressed
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07-21-2017 , 08:46 AM
Can someone repost schedule please? Not showing Up for me
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07-21-2017 , 09:02 AM
photobucket wants to charge $400/yr to allow hosting of pictures.
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07-21-2017 , 10:07 AM
8/30 Event1: $400 re-entry, 12pm, 10k SS with 30 min levels, level 6 reenter period.

8/31 Event2: $1100 re-entry Survivor turbo bounty, 12pm, 15k SS with 20 min levels, level 6 rebuy period, 8 seats Main event seats added, $500 lammer bounties.

9/1 - 9/3 Event3: $2500 Main Event 2 Million Guarantee, 12pm, 25k SS with 40 min levels, level 9 reenter period.

9/4 Day2 of Event3: 60 min levels, 1 pm, play 10 levels

9/5 Day3 of Event3: 60 min levels, 12pm, play to winner

9/4 Event4: $1100 Bounty turbo reentry, 3pm, 15k SS, 20 mins levels, level 6 reentry period, $500 lammer bounty.

9/5 Event5: $500 plo reentry, 1pm, 15k SS, 30 min levels, level 6 reentry period.

9/6 Event6: $500 6max reentry, 12pm, 10k SS, 30 min levels, level 6 reentry period.

9/7-9/9 Event7: $400 reentry, 12pm, 20k SS, 30 min levels, level 6 renetry period, $300k guarantee

9/10: Day 2 of Event7, 1pm

9/11: Event8: $500 turbo bounty, 12pm 10k SS, $200 bounties, level 6 reentry period.

8/12, 8/19, 8/26, 8/29 (7pm): $275 Super Satellite, 5K SS, 12pm, 20 mins levels, 4 seats added

8/13, 8/20, 8/27, 8/31 (7pm): $550 Megas, 7k SS, 12pm, 30 mins levels, 8 seats added, level 6 reentry period.
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07-21-2017 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by deadlysyns
8/30 Event1: $400 re-entry, 12pm, 10k SS with 30 min levels, level 6 reenter period.

8/31 Event2: $1100 re-entry Survivor turbo bounty, 12pm, 15k SS with 20 min levels, level 6 rebuy period, 8 seats Main event seats added, $500 lammer bounties.

9/1 - 9/3 Event3: $2500 Main Event 2 Million Guarantee, 12pm, 25k SS with 40 min levels, level 9 reenter period.

9/4 Day2 of Event3: 60 min levels, 1 pm, play 10 levels

9/5 Day3 of Event3: 60 min levels, 12pm, play to winner

9/4 Event4: $1100 Bounty turbo reentry, 3pm, 15k SS, 20 mins levels, level 6 reentry period, $500 lammer bounty.

9/5 Event5: $500 plo reentry, 1pm, 15k SS, 30 min levels, level 6 reentry period.

9/6 Event6: $500 6max reentry, 12pm, 10k SS, 30 min levels, level 6 reentry period.

9/7-9/9 Event7: $400 reentry, 12pm, 20k SS, 30 min levels, level 6 renetry period, $300k guarantee

9/10: Day 2 of Event7, 1pm

9/11: Event8: $500 turbo bounty, 12pm 10k SS, $200 bounties, level 6 reentry period.

8/12, 8/19, 8/26, 8/29 (7pm): $275 Super Satellite, 5K SS, 12pm, 20 mins levels, 4 seats added

8/13, 8/20, 8/27, 8/31 (7pm): $550 Megas, 7k SS, 12pm, 30 mins levels, 8 seats added, level 6 reentry period.
IMO putting the main event first is gonna hurt the entire series. It has been tried before at other venues and has failed.
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07-21-2017 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bigtex21
IMO putting the main event first is gonna hurt the entire series. It has been tried before at other venues and has failed.
Agree. Winstar is making every effort to make their tournament series awful
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07-22-2017 , 10:52 PM
Winstar is literally a top 5 or 10 most popular poker room in the country. Zero excuse for them to churn out such garbage tournament series.

Look at what Choctaw is able to do. No reason Winstar shouldn't be able to do that at MINIMUM, if not surpass it.
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07-23-2017 , 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Art Vandelay Poker
Winstar is literally a top 5 or 10 most popular poker room in the country. Zero excuse for them to churn out such garbage tournament series.

Look at what Choctaw is able to do. No reason Winstar shouldn't be able to do that at MINIMUM, if not surpass it.
Winstar does not want to hire an outside TD and turn control of the event over to them or outside dealers necessary to properly staff the event. If they hired Jimmy Sommerfeld, Matt Savage, Bill Bruce or a few others I could mention they could have fantastic events.
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07-24-2017 , 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by bigtex21
Winstar does not want to hire an outside TD and turn control of the event over to them or outside dealers necessary to properly staff the event. If they hired Jimmy Sommerfeld, Matt Savage, Bill Bruce or a few others I could mention they could have fantastic events.
Such a shame. I guess their business must just be so good they don't need it. I sure would love to see what sort of turnout that place could get with some legitimate tournament series
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07-24-2017 , 11:58 PM
Any information on hotel rates for the tournament?
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07-25-2017 , 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by mcmatto1
Any information on hotel rates for the tournament?
Funny. Winstar does not give tourney players a nickel in comps or perks. This used to be the premier poker tournament of the year in DFW. It may not be in the top 5 after this year.
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07-25-2017 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by J_early
Funny. Winstar does not give tourney players a nickel in comps or perks. This used to be the premier poker tournament of the year in DFW. It may not be in the top 5 after this year.
they had 8 main event seats in their Megas and 4 seats in their Super.

so there is a total of 56 main event seats.

56 x $2500 = $140,000
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07-25-2017 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by deadlysyns
they had 8 main event seats in their Megas and 4 seats in their Super.

so there is a total of 56 main event seats.

56 x $2500 = $140,000
Those added seats in the satellites are definitely a nice perk that I forgot about. Unfortunately, I don't have time to play in them so I miss out. I would prefer that $140K be put towards a professional staff.
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07-26-2017 , 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by J_early
Funny. Winstar does not give tourney players a nickel in comps or perks. This used to be the premier poker tournament of the year in DFW. It may not be in the top 5 after this year.
What would you say are the top 5 in DFW?
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07-27-2017 , 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by jeffman
What would you say are the top 5 in DFW?
she meant top 5-10 nation wide
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07-27-2017 , 12:33 AM
Definitely meant in DFW.
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07-27-2017 , 10:22 AM
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What would you say are the top 5 in DFW?
1. WPT Main
2. WSOP Circuit Main in January
3. WSOP Circuit Main in November (New this year, but will be huge)
4. River Main (Could drop below the Milly Guarantees with this years schedule)
5. Milly Guarantees in WPT and WSOP series
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07-27-2017 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by J_early
1. WPT Main
2. WSOP Circuit Main in January
3. WSOP Circuit Main in November (New this year, but will be huge)
4. River Main (Could drop below the Milly Guarantees with this years schedule)
5. Milly Guarantees in WPT and WSOP series
It is rumored that Choctaw may replace their PNIA in April with another WPT.
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07-27-2017 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by bigtex21
It is rumored that Choctaw may replace their PNIA in April with another WPT.
That would be amazing. 4 great tournament series spread out perfectly through the year. I forgot about the PNIA Main in the top 5. It should probably be ahead of the milly guarantees in the 5 spot.
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07-27-2017 , 12:28 PM
Not really arguing, but just a genuine question, because I do not know - In what way do you guys think another WPT would be superior to PNIA? I am far from an expert, but this summer's WPT, for instance, had only a $200,000 guarantee on the $125 NL vs the $300,000 guarantee on the PNIA $125. I was under the impression that Choctaw was running all of the non-main event PNIA/WPT events anyway, unlike WSOPC, which the WSOPC actually runs all the events for. Is that correct?
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