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Old 05-21-2015, 10:48 PM   #201
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Ill buy at any time 95% face. Security's out watching for lammer selling
The security guard making $10 an hour doesn't care.

Create the fear. Offer a solution. Reap the profits. You should have went into politics Allen
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Old 05-21-2015, 11:04 PM   #202
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Re: 2+2 WSOP lammer exchange

Well at least lets use this thread to let others know we have lammers for sale. I have subscribed and set it to notify instantly. Really no one should need to discount these. I'm willing to buy them if I'm doing a buy in soon, and hope others will buy (from me) as needed.
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Old 05-21-2015, 11:36 PM   #203
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The security guard making $10 an hour doesn't care.

Create the fear. Offer a solution. Reap the profits. You should have went into politics Allen


Ok. When you cause someone to be evicted from the property don't say i didn't warn you.
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Old 05-21-2015, 11:51 PM   #204
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I've been to the rio every year the wsop has been there and not once has anybody been evicted for lammers. Stop spewing sh-t Allen. I've sold and bought always at face value. You're suckering people for 5%. U should be ashamed of yourself
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Old 05-22-2015, 01:46 AM   #205
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Re: 2+2 WSOP lammer exchange

In front of security?
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Old 05-22-2015, 05:16 AM   #206
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2+2 WSOP lammer exchange

Some security people don't care and others will just say , "hey you can't do that here".. Then you just walk right outside the room and can exchange it there without issues.

That's about as much as it varies.

I'm not up to date with the poker scene, but I thought double joker was a high stakes pro. If you are , and trying to nickel and dime people , that's pretty low.

Also last year I got stuck with lammers that I forgot about, at the end of the series. I went to the cashier ( where you register for the wsop events) and they exchanged it for cash with no issues whatsoever.
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Old 05-22-2015, 06:18 AM   #207
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Ill buy at any time 95% face. Security's out watching for lammer selling
I'll buy at 96%
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Old 05-22-2015, 10:01 AM   #208
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Re: 2+2 WSOP lammer exchange

That's why Allen will never be a true poker ambassador. Trying to pull this scam off on noobs is horrible. Imagine if hellmuth or dnegs tried this.
He's going to play in over 100k worth of tournies. If he was truly concerned about the lammer selling situation he could say "if you need to sell, come find me and I'll give you face value up until I have enough for my entries". Nope, he wants a 5% discount
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Old 05-22-2015, 01:42 PM   #209
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Re: 2+2 WSOP lammer exchange

Not trying to scam anyone. On multiple occasions ive bought lammer from players to help them out and either lost them or forgot to use them.

Id estimate there is a 95% chance id use it if i bought one. Thats why i offer 95%.
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Old 05-22-2015, 02:01 PM   #210
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Not trying to scam anyone. On multiple occasions ive bought lammer from players to help them out and either lost them or forgot to use them.

Id estimate there is a 95% chance id use it if i bought one. Thats why i offer 95%.
Lol

There's a 100% chance I'll use them. I'll offer 100%.

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Allen. I'll buy the ones you don't use 5% of the time at 94%. Don't see understand why you're pricing them at the breakeven point. You should account for other variables --- at least for your time to meet up with someone

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Old 05-22-2015, 07:20 PM   #211
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Not trying to scam anyone. On multiple occasions ive bought lammer from players to help them out and either lost them or forgot to use them.

Id estimate there is a 95% chance id use it if i bought one. Thats why i offer 95%.
So we should all pay for your clumsiness? And you're full of it.
1) your so tight with $$ I don't think you've ever dropped a nickel on the floor
2) you play over 100k in wsop buy ins. We all know if you have a lammer you'll use it
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Old 05-22-2015, 07:27 PM   #212
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Re: 2+2 WSOP lammer exchange

+1. Before I pay for any WSOP or other lammer-accepted tournaments at the Rio, I will pay 100% face value for lammers (I would prefer seller go with me to the cage on my first lammer purchase).
Does the Rio accept the $500 lammers for ANY $500+ tournament, including mega satellites?
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Really no one should need to discount these. I'm willing to buy them if I'm doing a buy in soon, and hope others will buy (from me) as needed.
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Old 05-22-2015, 07:42 PM   #213
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Re: 2+2 WSOP lammer exchange

Before a mass mob effect happens . He is being straight up, and no one is forced to trade with him.
I don't view it as a scam, his terms are clear.
It does sound like bull**** about the reason of his rate, but that doesn't even matter.

I just equate it on the spectrum of giving a homeless guy $1.00 and then asking him for 1 cent back. Not to say the homeless guy = poker player haha... But I think you guys will understand the jist.

Just use him as option B
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Old 05-22-2015, 10:09 PM   #214
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Before a mass mob effect happens . He is being straight up, and no one is forced to trade with him.
I don't view it as a scam, his terms are clear.
It does sound like bull**** about the reason of his rate, but that doesn't even matter.

I just equate it on the spectrum of giving a homeless guy $1.00 and then asking him for 1 cent back. Not to say the homeless guy = poker player haha... But I think you guys will understand the jist.

Just use him as option B
It's not a scam, he's being upfront about his terms. It's just a scummy thing to do. I'll buy lammers at face value for up to the amount I need, and many others will too. For everyone buying lammers, there's enough dbags in poker already trying to take advantage of people, do the right thing, be a nice guy, and pay face value for lammers.
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Old 05-22-2015, 11:12 PM   #215
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+1. Before I pay for any WSOP or other lammer-accepted tournaments at the Rio, I will pay 100% face value for lammers (I would prefer seller go with me to the cage on my first lammer purchase).
Does the Rio accept the $500 lammers for ANY $500+ tournament, including mega satellites?
Yes, they do. $5xx STT's also. Any tournament, really. They just don't give change or credit of any kind.
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Old 05-23-2015, 06:35 AM   #216
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Yes, they do. $5xx STT's also. Any tournament, really. They just don't give change or credit of any kind.
They also accept them for lesser value tourn as long as you are buying in for >500. Ex: (2) 275 buy in STT.
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Old 05-23-2015, 11:45 AM   #217
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Excellent deal to buy in to two deep stacks and add $30 cash
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Old 05-23-2015, 11:58 AM   #218
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Re: 2+2 WSOP lammer exchange

That's not an 'excellent deal'. It's the price advertised.

Admittedly, it's a better than selling the lammer to you and then adding $35 cash.
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Old 05-23-2015, 01:22 PM   #219
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Re: 2+2 WSOP lammer exchange

The lammer debate just never gets old. Lol at those who think strangers should gladly hand over full face value. And double lol for those calling others shady when they're the ones trying to extract cash value from a worthless clay disk created specifically to have no cash value.
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Old 05-23-2015, 01:33 PM   #220
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The lammer debate just never gets old. Lol at those who think strangers should gladly hand over full face value. And double lol for those calling others shady when they're the ones trying to extract cash value from a worthless clay disk created specifically to have no cash value.
Like I said, there's enough dbags in poker already. Don't be a jerk, help out your fellow players and pay full value. Have them go to the cage with you if you're nervous about it, but it's really no skin off your back, it costs you the same either way.
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Old 05-23-2015, 01:43 PM   #221
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I guess we have different definitions of dbags. To me it's guys who acost random strangers in cardrooms. I would help out a friend or acquaintance or even some random I've played a long session with. But I ignore random strangers in casinos who hit me up for money. And people don't just stumble on lammers. If you're playing in lammer events and don't plan to use them for buying in, it's on you not the "poker community."
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Old 05-23-2015, 02:25 PM   #222
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Based on my experience, a large segment of STT players are there for the lammers to resell. If they weren't there, the WSOP would be losing out on a lot of rake, and there would be less demand (and jobs and tips) for dealers.

The person that's going to buy in to a bracelet event is going to enter whether he hands over $1500 or 3 lammers to the WSOP.
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Old 05-23-2015, 02:32 PM   #223
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Exactly. They are gonna play their event anyway. They don't owe the underground STT guys a living.
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Old 05-23-2015, 04:01 PM   #224
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Exactly. They are gonna play their event anyway. They don't owe the underground STT guys a living.
This the STT are crowded with STT specialists, and by buying lammers, you are just fueling those people.

The Wardog no longer buys lammers, unless of course you want to sell them at 95% then I will have to take the deal, but anything more, not interested.

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Old 05-23-2015, 05:25 PM   #225
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Re: 2+2 WSOP lammer exchange

There are at least two different scenarios that are getting conflated here. There are players like me who play multiple sit n go's to build stacks to enter the bigger events and then apparently there are players who just play a ton of sit n go's for profit.

The way I do it I often need some lammers broken down in order to enter more sit n go's. People have always been nice (no skin off their back) and bought them off me for full price. That should continue. It helps everyone's goals.

If someone has a ton of lammers to sell, then frankly Allen is offering a service that should be worth the 5%, if only to save time. But it is their option.
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