2+2 WSOP lammer exchange - Page 17 - WSOP and Tournament Circut

Have you tried starting a friendly chat at every table or line-up you're at then mentioning that you're looking to exchange a lammer? It may not be instant but I will at some point see a friendly pro or somebody I've said a word to before that is willing to exchange before they buy-in. I volunteer to stay with the person in the line-up until he gets to the cashier. If you will be at the Rio when I'm there around June 14-27+, we can help each other get face value.

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Originally Posted by pig4bill

I've said it before and I'll repeat myself here - I've tried many different methods and invested many hours into it. The few that I actually sell just take too long to make it worthwhile. This is over the last 4 years at least.

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06-03-2016 , 12:45 PM

#402

pig4bill

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Ha, okay. I tried selling one to Kathy Liebert but a suit saw and came over and screamed at me and she ran off. Tried to sell one to Grinder but he was broke and wanted me to stake him.

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06-03-2016 , 01:44 PM

#403

3700 W Flamingo Rd

stranger

Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 7

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Originally Posted by doublejoker

It says you cant receive pms ill be there at 10am

I'm at rio now have 2 lammers. if you want them i'll come to you

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06-03-2016 , 02:30 PM

#404

pwnsall

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Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 65,637

I'd offer to buy them but I'm at the same table so it'd be really awkward.

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06-03-2016 , 03:34 PM

#405

3700 W Flamingo Rd

stranger

Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 7

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Originally Posted by pwnsall

I'd offer to buy them but I'm at the same table so it'd be really awkward.

if you want them let me know and will meet up

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06-03-2016 , 06:00 PM

#406

Lord_Strife

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I'm at an OFC cash game, I'll buy them at 495 for another hour

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06-03-2016 , 06:22 PM

#407

AcerJay

enthusiast

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 57

[QUOTE=Lord_Strife;50155404]I'm at an OFC cash game, I'll buy them at 495 for another hour

Off topic, but how mutch is the rake at the OFC game?
Im heading to Rio next week planning to play $10 or $20 a point OFC games

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06-03-2016 , 06:23 PM

#408

Lord_Strife

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[QUOTE=AcerJay;50155486]

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Originally Posted by Lord_Strife

I'm at an OFC cash game, I'll buy them at 495 for another hour

Off topic, but how mutch is the rake at the OFC game?

Im heading to Rio next week planning to play $10 or $20 a point OFC games

$20/player/30m
15 to the house, 5 to the dealer

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06-03-2016 , 08:23 PM

#409

AceCR9

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lammer-related question. I win a sat for ME seat, am I required to fill out any tax forms? asking due to staking/selling action issues.

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06-03-2016 , 08:39 PM

#410

Lord_Strife

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Originally Posted by AceCR9

lammer-related question. I win a sat for ME seat, am I required to fill out any tax forms? asking due to staking/selling action issues.

It's been no in previous years

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06-04-2016 , 01:49 AM

#411

slcpunk

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 180

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Originally Posted by AceCR9

lammer-related question. I win a sat for ME seat, am I required to fill out any tax forms? asking due to staking/selling action issues.

No. This is actually the WSOP's best argument for prohibiting the sale of lammers. If lammers were functionally equivalent to cash, winning them would not only be taxable, the WSOP would have to do the reporting forms. It doesn't really make a difference in terms of the tax liability, since if you win a satellite and then use the lammers to enter a tournament but don't cash you haven't netted any taxable income. But it does make a difference for the reporting. It saves both the WSOP and players the hassle of having to do tax forms for satty wins to have lammers be worth "no cash value."

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06-04-2016 , 03:00 PM

#412

The Camel

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Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,202

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Originally Posted by Dubey

Seems about 100x less secure than just buying in directly with cash, so I would counter with, why on earth would you pay full price for a Lammer when you can just go to the WSOP cashier and pay if you want to pay full price and there is zero percent chance of getting scammed/getting in trouble.

Because you are helping someone out at no expense or trouble to yourself.

Zero sum game, with one party very happy at the outcome and one in exactly the same position as he was before the transaction.

And as for getting scammed, you can get knocked over by a bus every time you cross the road. Does that mean you never cross the road?

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06-04-2016 , 04:51 PM

#413

Dubey

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Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,844

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Originally Posted by The Camel

if there was a 1% chance of getting hit by a bus but I could just take the bridge over the road at zero additional effort and have a 0% chance of getting hit by a bus, I would probably take the bridge.

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06-04-2016 , 05:14 PM

#414

pig4bill

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There is a near zero chance anyone would spend the thousands of dollars to make fake lammers that are worthless by mid-July.

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06-04-2016 , 05:33 PM

#415

Dubey

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Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,844

I don't disagree, but pulling out a wad of cash in a public place to make an under the table transaction (that is expressly against the rules of the establishment) with a complete stranger to zero personal benefit is still not an entirely risk free endeavor.

I think it's great that people are willing to pay face value for lammers to help other poker players out, I also think it is perfectly reasonable for people to not be willing to do it at all, or to charge a little vig to complete the transaction. The scorn directed towards those people is unreasonable IMO.

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06-04-2016 , 05:35 PM

#416

pwnsall

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That's a good post.

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06-04-2016 , 05:41 PM

#417

IgorSmiles

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Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 955

You don't accidentally get hit with a pocket full of lammers. You're playing in lammer events without the intention of using them for their express purpose. Not sure why you get to claim the moral high ground when someone charges you a few bucks or even better just doesn't need the hassle of aiding and abetting you.

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06-04-2016 , 06:03 PM

#418

pig4bill

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Originally Posted by Dubey

I don't disagree, but pulling out a wad of cash in a public place to make an under the table transaction (that is expressly against the rules of the establishment) with a complete stranger to zero personal benefit is still not an entirely risk free endeavor.

Expressly where? Quote a cite.

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06-04-2016 , 06:06 PM

#419

Nash_equilibria

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Sellers can volunteer to stay with the buyer until at the cashier for 100% assurance. I usually get to chat with the buyer about some party, swag, juicy game or other Las Vegas info that he wasn't aware of, so it's a win-win interaction between 2+2 members.

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Originally Posted by Dubey

why on earth would you pay full price for a Lammer when you can just go to the WSOP cashier and pay if you want to pay full price...

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06-04-2016 , 06:18 PM

#420

PeteBlow

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Originally Posted by Dubey

...but doing it to make $5-10 per lammer makes the risk worthwhile? If you're going to make an argument, at least make it believable.

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06-04-2016 , 07:24 PM

#421

Lord_Strife

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My primary reason for charging a fee, this is from my Facebook page:

"I found random 2k in my luggage one time.
They were lammers from previous wsop (expired)

"

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06-05-2016 , 10:06 PM

#422

PeteBlow

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Originally Posted by Lord_Strife

My primary reason for charging a fee, this is from my Facebook page:

"I found random 2k in my luggage one time.
They were lammers from previous wsop (expired)

"

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I hope you kept hold of them for the year when they use that colour again.

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06-05-2016 , 11:11 PM

#423

mattc74

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Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 223

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Originally Posted by IgorSmiles

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06-05-2016 , 11:32 PM

#424

PlentyOfFish

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Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 193

I have 3 lammers for sale. At rio right now

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06-06-2016 , 12:06 AM

#425

PlentyOfFish

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 193

Will sell for 1485, dm me

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