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07-25-2010 , 12:40 AM
no postings of structures? I have gone to the home pages of all 3 but cant find a list of the types of tournaments or any detail whatsoever

http://www.pokerpages.com/tournament...alEventDayID=0

anyone know where we can find these?
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07-25-2010 , 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mlaw455
no postings of structures? I have gone to the home pages of all 3 but cant find a list of the types of tournaments or any detail whatsoever

http://www.pokerpages.com/tournament...alEventDayID=0

anyone know where we can find these?
the tourney listings are still TBA everywhere but Council Bluffs but the structures are now standarized so you can seen them at the Council Bluffs site.
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07-25-2010 , 02:37 AM
If those structures are standard across the board, 10K in chips on the 345+10 dealer add-on @the Horseshoe in Chicago will possibly even be bigger than the 1400 it pulled last year.
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07-25-2010 , 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by bretnbrutty
If those structures are standard across the board, 10K in chips on the 345+10 dealer add-on @the Horseshoe in Chicago will possibly even be bigger than the 1400 it pulled last year.
The buy-in and structure were the same as last year. So it probably shouldn't make a huge difference to the size of the field. The year before people only received 6k in chips for that event and the field was still over 1,100. People love to go out and play WSOPC events. Especially in Chicago.
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07-25-2010 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by reegz21
The buy-in and structure were the same as last year. So it probably shouldn't make a huge difference to the size of the field. The year before people only received 6k in chips for that event and the field was still over 1,100. People love to go out and play WSOPC events. Especially in Chicago.

I played the event last year, but I don't remember starting with 10K in chips(thought it was 7K). The first year with the horrible issues with registering I do remember. Either way it was actually nicely structured and the fact that they gave the people who were registered a full stack when we were finally brought in(alternate 256 here, out of the 500 I believe).
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07-25-2010 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bretnbrutty
I played the event last year, but I don't remember starting with 10K in chips(thought it was 7K). The first year with the horrible issues with registering I do remember. Either way it was actually nicely structured and the fact that they gave the people who were registered a full stack when we were finally brought in(alternate 256 here, out of the 500 I believe).
It was 10k chips last year.

I hope they release the schedule soon, gotta plan my vacation time.
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07-25-2010 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bretnbrutty
I played the event last year, but I don't remember starting with 10K in chips(thought it was 7K). The first year with the horrible issues with registering I do remember. Either way it was actually nicely structured and the fact that they gave the people who were registered a full stack when we were finally brought in(alternate 256 here, out of the 500 I believe).
would have been $7000 before $3000 add on
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07-25-2010 , 03:41 PM
Hey bigtex coming to tunica soon. Where r the best games/stakes?
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07-25-2010 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by PLOwed
Hey bigtex coming to tunica soon. Where r the best games/stakes?
I need to know what games and stakes you want to play and I can give a better answer.
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07-25-2010 , 10:27 PM
where do think for a 5/10 NL and 2/5 PLO? i have heard mixed things that PLO is hard to find and that horseshoe is the best bet
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07-25-2010 , 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mlaw455
where do think for a 5/10 NL and 2/5 PLO? i have heard mixed things that PLO is hard to find and that horseshoe is the best bet
Horseshoe or Goldstrike
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07-26-2010 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bigtex21
would have been $7000 before $3000 add on
They didn't have add-ons last year. The stack was just 10k. The addon is new for the Chicago location. There goes my lunch money!!
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07-26-2010 , 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bigtex21
I need to know what games and stakes you want to play and I can give a better answer.
Mostly 1/2 2/5 NLHE and PLO
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07-26-2010 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by PLOwed
Mostly 1/2 2/5 NLHE and PLO
PLO and 2/5 NLHE--- Horseshoe.

1-2 NLHE---Goldstrike no cap on buy-in.
1-3 NLHE---Sam's Town no cap on buy-in.
1-3 NLHE --Horseshoe $300 cap on buy-in.
1-3 NLHE---Harrahs 1-3 $500 cap on buy-in but 9 handed tables all others have 10 handed tables.
I think the softest games are at Sam's Town, tourist that watch too much TV poker.
Forget the Hollywood unless playing on the weekend as that is the only time they get a 1-2 NLHE up.
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07-26-2010 , 09:42 PM
Cool thanks. Wow never seen uncapped 1/2. I also like the idea of nine handed vs. ten... my local casinos r pretty dry with game selection/variety
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07-27-2010 , 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by bretnbrutty
I played the event last year, but I don't remember starting with 10K in chips(thought it was 7K). The first year with the horrible issues with registering I do remember. Either way it was actually nicely structured and the fact that they gave the people who were registered a full stack when we were finally brought in(alternate 256 here, out of the 500 I believe).
What impressed me were the 45 minute levels. I'm glad they are standardizing the structures though.

Here is last years.

http://www.horseshoehammond.com/imag...e_Sheet_09.pdf

Last edited by Excalibur1701; 07-27-2010 at 05:38 AM.
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07-27-2010 , 11:23 AM
Completely forgot about the 45 minute levels. Would have loved to see that go forward.
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07-28-2010 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by bretnbrutty
Completely forgot about the 45 minute levels. Would have loved to see that go forward.
Last year at Level 18 you were at 4,000 - 8,000 Blinds. This year you will be at 1200 -2400 . You will also come back on day 2 with 50 minute and one hour levels.
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07-28-2010 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Sommerfeld
Last year at Level 18 you were at 4,000 - 8,000 Blinds. This year you will be at 1200 -2400 . You will also come back on day 2 with 50 minute and one hour levels.
Jimmy, any word on when Hammond schedule will be released? Thanks.
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07-28-2010 , 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Sommerfeld
Last year at Level 18 you were at 4,000 - 8,000 Blinds. This year you will be at 1200 -2400 . You will also come back on day 2 with 50 minute and one hour levels.
Jimmy, Is this structure is the same for WSOPC in Horseshoe southern Indina?? If so, then It rocks !!!!!!!!
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07-28-2010 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Sommerfeld
Last year at Level 18 you were at 4,000 - 8,000 Blinds. This year you will be at 1200 -2400 . You will also come back on day 2 with 50 minute and one hour levels.
That is a very misleading statement

End of Level 18 in your structure - 600 minutes

End of Level 18 in Hammond Structure - 810 minutes

The 600 minute mark in Hammond structure was in the middle of level 14 - 1200/2400/300 since your levels are much shorter.

I'm fine with the current structure but you can't just compare it level for level to the Hammond structure.
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07-28-2010 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dimeat
That is a very misleading statement

End of Level 18 in your structure - 600 minutes

End of Level 18 in Hammond Structure - 810 minutes

The 600 minute mark in Hammond structure was in the middle of level 14 - 1200/2400/300 since your levels are much shorter.

I'm fine with the current structure but you can't just compare it level for level to the Hammond structure.
Both structures are 1200/2400/300 at the 600 minute mark, the blinds in hammond were 45 minutes last year, at this point of the new structure it is only 40 minutes. Then there is about 4 more rounds of 40 minutes following this round. After the 50 minute blinds, the tournament will go a little slower and deeper then hammond last year. Ironically, it is pretty much the exact same if you match them up minute per minute.

Why not just do 45 minute rounds like last year?? Why fuss with the 30, 40, 50, 60 minute blind strucures. 45 minute is a perfect medium time to run this tournament. It isn't confusing for me, but for the tourists and some dealers it might be.
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07-29-2010 , 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Sommerfeld
Last year at Level 18 you were at 4,000 - 8,000 Blinds. This year you will be at 1200 -2400 . You will also come back on day 2 with 50 minute and one hour levels.
jimmy, can we PLEASE do away with these pointless "dealer addon" things? how many people actually decline to take these chips? really annoying to come down there w/ my backers $$, and find out i gotta txt them about another pointless $20 or $30 that they need to tack onto our figure, not to mention that i don't always bring cash with me to live tournaments that's for anything but the buyin.

edit: also i'm mainly talking about MAIN events, not the smaller ones. i can understand in the smaller ones why you use them. but in mains where people are paying $5k to buyin, or even $500 to satellite in, no one's really going to turn down $20 or whatever for a good sum of chips.
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07-29-2010 , 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by reegz21
Both structures are 1200/2400/300 at the 600 minute mark, the blinds in hammond were 45 minutes last year, at this point of the new structure it is only 40 minutes. Then there is about 4 more rounds of 40 minutes following this round. After the 50 minute blinds, the tournament will go a little slower and deeper then hammond last year. Ironically, it is pretty much the exact same if you match them up minute per minute.

Why not just do 45 minute rounds like last year?? Why fuss with the 30, 40, 50, 60 minute blind strucures. 45 minute is a perfect medium time to run this tournament. It isn't confusing for me, but for the tourists and some dealers it might be.
I disagree basically chopping the added levels into 2 segments is much smoother then longer levels that jump higher. Going by what you are saying why not keep levels at 25=50 for 8 hours then jump to 2000-4000 I know this is far fetched, but it is getting my thinking to you. Yes day 1 is very comparable, Day 2 is not close with the added levels and LONGER Levels. WE tried this in Tunica and some of the events in St Louis , It was welcomed. I never had so many players actually come up and say how great the structures were. I fought hard to have these structures unified in all circuit events. I believe in these structures and I believe that you will too after you play using these structures.
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07-29-2010 , 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by sketchy1
jimmy, can we PLEASE do away with these pointless "dealer addon" things? how many people actually decline to take these chips? really annoying to come down there w/ my backers $$, and find out i gotta txt them about another pointless $20 or $30 that they need to tack onto our figure, not to mention that i don't always bring cash with me to live tournaments that's for anything but the buyin.

edit: also i'm mainly talking about MAIN events, not the smaller ones. i can understand in the smaller ones why you use them. but in mains where people are paying $5k to buyin, or even $500 to satellite in, no one's really going to turn down $20 or whatever for a good sum of chips.
no, not until we get machines to deal. Better structures, more chips, added levels....Cost more.

example: When we added the deep stack tournaments to the WSOP this year, the dealer down rate at the biggest tournament in the world were $15 a down. Each dealer averaged 8 - 10 downs a day.
This is $150 a day. The dealers paid own transportation from all over the country. They had to pay $40 a night for room. Food cost is probably $30 a day....You really think its a great job? Please no comment on this is wanted. I take care of players and I always will fight for the players , to ensure that I bring them a quality schedule, quality structures, added money at many of my tournaments. But I will also ensure that i am not doing all of this at the expense of my employees. Understand as tournament directors , we not only have to make the players happy, we have to make the employees happy and the casinos happy. It is a very fine line. Trust me, My dealers are some of the best dealers out there if not the best, You are playing for thousands of dollars, I must hire only the best, in doing so, I have to keep them all happy. sorry if you do not agree, but it is something I must do.

Please lets keep this thread in tact. Please let put the dealer toke to rest, and keep these threads as informative information. I work hard to give you the schedule of events, structures etc, on this forum. my team and I look forward to directing some of the upcoming circuit events. I will be submitting all schedule of events and structure sheets for all of my upcoming circuit events to corporate to put on the wsop site on Friday. Good Luck to all.
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