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I had an unfortunate draw for day 2. I bagged 113k, sith average stack being 84k...and I was the third smallest stack at my table. Some tough players, including the guy who eventually won the tournament. I was forced to play pretty conservatively, which resulted in my bleeding out and getting short stacked. Have to rethink my approach to these kinds of tables.

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07-24-2017 , 03:38 PM

#102

bobbya1999

newbie

Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 28

there are a ton of shadesters in oklahoma, even over little 100 dollar buy in tourneys. cheaters gonna cheat

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07-24-2017 , 03:46 PM

#103

MeLoveYouLongTime

Not a difficult personality

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 13,159

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Originally Posted by SpewingIsMyMove

We're you at my table? Who ended up winning, the old Hispanic man?

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07-24-2017 , 04:01 PM

#104

seiken_nick

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If anyone wants to do a small swap for the main, pm me

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07-24-2017 , 04:18 PM

#105

SpewingIsMyMove

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Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 3,529

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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime

We're you at my table? Who ended up winning, the old Hispanic man?

I was at table 4. Will (younger man from teh Domincan Republic) won

Last edited by SpewingIsMyMove; 07-24-2017 at 04:23 PM.

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07-24-2017 , 04:23 PM

#106

MeLoveYouLongTime

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Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 13,159

Lol

Awesome you won!

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07-24-2017 , 04:29 PM

#107

SpewingIsMyMove

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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime

Lol

Awesome you won!

I didn't win, I was at the table of the winner. I went out at 126.

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07-24-2017 , 05:49 PM

#108

michelle227

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Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,177

How many runners on the $500 Seniors event today? Curious whether I will be beating myself up for being stuck in the office and not being able to make the drive...

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07-24-2017 , 05:58 PM

#109

Black Aces 518

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Headed up tomorrow for PLO8, Wednesday's NL, Congress and flight 1 of Monster Stack.

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07-24-2017 , 09:14 PM

#110

SJCX

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Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 989

There was a 14 way chop for 12k each in the 200k guaranteed. There was talk of chopping it 21 ways for 9700 each(I agreed). I got coolered with KK against AA and knocked out 21st. I expected to be in line to collect and hear them agree to a chop at 20 players and lose $7500.00 on the cooler! 21st was in the 2200.00 range

I felt better that they played on and chopped at 14.

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07-24-2017 , 11:10 PM

#111

Dream Crusher

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Someone posted that Will won it, and the website shows he won it for $48k but you're saying it was actually chopped 14 ways?

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07-25-2017 , 12:04 AM

#112

SpewingIsMyMove

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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher

Someone posted that Will won it, and the website shows he won it for $48k but you're saying it was actually chopped 14 ways?

That was me, I was going by what the Poker executives site posted. I know choctaw doesn't help facilitate chops, so they just post it based on chip counts I guess. I always wonder how they handle the taxes in a 14 way chop.

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07-25-2017 , 02:04 AM

#113

Phil9

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Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,608

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Originally Posted by SpewingIsMyMove

On the casino side of things, if they don't facilitate chops, the player signs for whatever place they get [Likely based on chip counts in this case] and pay taxes based on what their place would be. This is why it would be absurd to do a 14 way even chop and then sign for 1st place without any sort of compensation. You could realistically lose money after taxes in such a scenario.

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07-25-2017 , 05:00 AM

#114

SJCX

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Fossilman(Greg Raymer) posted how you do a chop in one of these Choctaw threads a while back. Which I brought up the other night when we were talking chop.

You only have to pay taxes on what you win, 14k. Choctaw is going to give someone a W-2 for 48k but you only owe taxes on what you really collected. I believe Raymer said to have the people in the chop agree in a statement that they chopped in Event 7, include the names and cell # etc..... When you file your taxes put 14K and if questioned you provide your statement as proof.

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07-25-2017 , 05:01 AM

#115

SJCX

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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher

Someone posted that Will won it, and the website shows he won it for $48k but you're saying it was actually chopped 14 ways?

It was def a 14 way chop for 12k each

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07-25-2017 , 05:38 AM

#116

Dream Crusher

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Cool, thanks!

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07-25-2017 , 09:40 AM

#117

Art Vandelay Poker

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Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 260

Wow, 14 way chop for $12,000 each? Can't really decide how I feel about that. Seems like someone probably got a great deal and someone got royally screwed. I have my doubts that all 14 players were that perfectly even in chips.

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07-25-2017 , 11:26 AM

#118

Piatchi

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It was kinda funny, I was at Table 1 early during Day 2, and there was a nice fella that went on about how he'd never chop because he just wants to play poker and see who wins, and it's about the competition, he doesn't care if he's shortstacked or not, etc. etc.

Not doggin' the guy, but he was one of the 14 who chopped later that night.

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07-25-2017 , 02:49 PM

#119

michelle227

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Originally Posted by Piatchi

Not doggin' the guy, but he was one of the 14 who chopped later that night.

Peer pressure...it's a helluva drug.

World of difference in potential mindsets when a 14-way chop is being offered versus two or three left going at it...yeah, you might leave something on the table, but several fare substantially better than continuing to slug it out.

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07-25-2017 , 09:43 PM

#120

rd2121

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 124

so why won't Choctaw/wpt facilitate chops? what's the reasoning on their end for not helping with payouts after a chop? just wondering since I know winstar helps with chops in their sat daily tournaments. It seems like a simple thing for the casino to do, but wonder if there is a reason why some don't.

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07-26-2017 , 01:08 AM

#121

Black Aces 518

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I have a $100 voucher for the Aug 2 super satellite I will sell for $60

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07-26-2017 , 07:49 AM

#122

Bazuko

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Originally Posted by Black Aces 518

I have a $100 voucher for the Aug 2 super satellite I will sell for $60

You got a buyer at $50 if interested

Ill be there this weekend.

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07-26-2017 , 08:39 AM

#123

Black Aces 518

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Originally Posted by Bazuko

You got a buyer at $50 if interested

Ill be there this weekend.

How about no $ but 1.5% of your first bullet in the main?

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07-26-2017 , 09:08 AM

#124

poyo

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Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 349

I have a double, non-smoking room for Sat night, not sure if anyone would be interested in splitting.

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07-26-2017 , 09:38 AM

#125

Recruiter

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 136

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Originally Posted by Black Aces 518

Headed up tomorrow for PLO8, Wednesday's NL, Congress and flight 1 of Monster Stack.

Run Good!

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